Liberal media bias

October 12th, 2004 at 11:09 am by David Farrar

Most of the studies of liberal media bias have concluded that such bias is not deliberate, but the result of a worldview that simply doesn

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16 Responses to “Liberal media bias”

  1. Adolf Fiinkensein () says:

    Hell hath no fury as a leftie journo hung out to dry. With control of the senate looking likely, I wonder how secure are the pinko ABC propagandists? Will there be payback for the last thiry years of bias?

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  2. Craig Ranapia () says:

    Ah, yes, I thought it was rather ironic that Espiner and DomPost columnist Eleanor Black decided to patronise Australian electors the same day as the DomPost reported that over 55% of Kiwi electors found a simple postal ballot far too challenging.

    On the other hand, those ignorant selfish hicks managed to cast over 26 millions STV ballots, elect two house of a bicameral legislature and count them quickly and accurately without requiring an inquiry afterward.

    Another irony: The commentariat think Howard ran a dirty and dishonest campaign, but they inevitably think it would be wise of Helen Clark to follow his example next year. George Orwell, we need you now…

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  3. Craig Ranapia () says:

    Ah, yes, I thought it was rather ironic that Espiner and DomPost columnist Eleanor Black decided to patronise Australian electors the same day as the DomPost reported that over 55% of Kiwi electors found a simple postal ballot far too challenging.

    On the other hand, those ignorant selfish hicks managed to cast over 26 millions STV ballots, elect two house of a bicameral legislature and count them quickly and accurately without requiring an inquiry afterward.

    Another irony: The commentariat think Howard ran a dirty and dishonest campaign, but they inevitably think it would be wise of Helen Clark to follow his example next year. George Orwell, we need you now…

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  4. Craig Ranapia () says:

    Ah, yes, I thought it was rather ironic that Espiner and DomPost columnist Eleanor Black decided to patronise Australian electors the same day as the DomPost reported that over 55% of Kiwi electors found a simple postal ballot far too challenging.

    On the other hand, those ignorant selfish hicks managed to cast over 26 millions STV ballots, elect two house of a bicameral legislature and count them quickly and accurately without requiring an inquiry afterward.

    Another irony: The commentariat think Howard ran a dirty and dishonest campaign, but they inevitably think it would be wise of Helen Clark to follow his example next year. George Orwell, we need you now…

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  5. Craig Ranapia () says:

    Ah, yes, I thought it was rather ironic that Espiner and DomPost columnist Eleanor Black decided to patronise Australian electors the same day as the DomPost reported that over 55% of Kiwi electors found a simple postal ballot far too challenging.

    On the other hand, those ignorant selfish hicks managed to cast over 26 millions STV ballots, elect two house of a bicameral legislature and count them quickly and accurately without requiring an inquiry afterward.

    Another irony: The commentariat think Howard ran a dirty and dishonest campaign, but they inevitably think it would be wise of Helen Clark to follow his example next year. George Orwell, we need you now…

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  6. Gaz () says:

    We only need to read it once, Craig.

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  7. Greyshade () says:

    Was that liberal media bias or Liberal media bias?

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  8. Peter Metcalfe () says:

    Colin Espiner screwed up by confusing STV with Preferential Voting. Howard won the parliamentary seats with preferential voting, not STV. If STV had been used then Howard would have received a vote similar to that used by MMP. However STV is used in the Senate and that has given a majority to Howard and his allies.

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  9. David Farrar () says:

    Greyshade – very droll :-)

    Peter – One could argue that preferential voting is STV in single member seats? One merely has a quota of 0.5 and hence excess votes are not needed to be calculated.

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  10. Jimmy () says:

    DPF,

    Thanks for the write up – your comments are spot on. I read that article in the Dom Post and couldn’t believe the shite I was reading.

    Orwellian indeed.

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  11. Conor () says:

    I have some thoughts on the election.
    Well, there is media bias and there is media bias.

    Like Murdoch

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  12. Ranald () says:

    “We have seen this with numerous articles talking about how John Howard won despite Iraq. Hello

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  13. Adolf Fiinkensein () says:

    Sorry chaps, but I cannot recall reading such an unmitigated load of amateur academic drivel as the last two posts. My friends in Australia with whom I correspond ALL were voting on Howard’s perceived ability to handle Iraq and terrorism. I don’t know who your useless pollsters were talking to but they sure as hell were not surveying the people who finally voted. The Islamists won the election for Howard when they bombed the embassy in Jakarta. (Just as the Islamists who are surrendering in Sadr City and Fallujah will win it for Bush) Unless you have lived there for some time you can’t hope to comprehend the underlying fear Australians have of the Islamic hordes from Indonesia. It’s right on their back door and the fear has been there for over forty years. Do you remember Bill Hayden’s celebrated remark about defense? He said “The Indonesians could sail into Sydney harbour on a Sunday afternoon and nobody would notice” or something like that.

    To suggest that Iraq and the WOT were peripheral issues is just plain dumb. Again the pollsters are shown up. The bookies were right and you could have seen that two or three weeks out.

    As far as Latham is concerned the real culprits must be the inept party hacks who should have been alongside their new boy, advising him every step of the way. Where were they when he went to Tassie? The poor silly bugger never had a show. Prime Minister in three years time? Dream on.

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  14. Ranald () says:

    “Sorry chaps, but I cannot recall reading such an unmitigated load of amateur academic drivel as the last two posts. My friends in Australia with whom I correspond ALL were voting on Howard’s perceived ability to handle Iraq and terrorism. I don’t know who your useless pollsters were talking to but they sure as hell were not surveying the people who finally voted.”

    Yeah, why would anyone use polls when you have the infallible power of *personal anecdotes*?

    All I’m saying is, the vast majority of the Australian opposed at the time, and still oppose, the War on Iraq. There hasn’t been a single poll to the contrary, and I’ll take that over your anecdote about your friends. So it seems fairly obvious that the election wasn’t a referendum on Howard’s decision to go to war in Iraq.

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  15. Sean () says:

    Ranald – Since the polls that said the election would be close were way off the mark why do you have such faith in the ones that said the majority of Australians were against the war? “It seems fairly obvious to me” – that the polls are next to worthless! My contacts in Oz tell me the same story – Iraq WAS an issue (albeit not the major one), and they preferred Howard’s approach of taking the fight to the terrorists rather than Latham’s Al-Andalusian alternative.

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  16. David Farrar () says:

    Ranald – you are wrong. In mid April support for being in Iraq was 50% in favour to 47% against. In August it was 49% to 48% in the same Morgan poll.

    And on the different question of should one say, having gone in, in August had 58% in favour with 37% saying home by Xmas.

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