Tapu Misa on media bias

March 2nd, 2005 at 4:43 pm by David Farrar

Tapu Misa correctly states there is no media conspiracy as Winston seems to think there is, but that journalists are as much products of their religious, cultural, ethnic and economic backgrounds as politicians, and possibly (I would say definitely) are more liberal as a group.

Ms Misa then goes on to prove this point, by correctly stating media credibility in the USA has had a particularly bad run of late, but amazingly only gives examples of very minor scandals which were pro-Bush and totally neglects to even mention the CBS scandal which uncovered the total abandonment of all standards of journalism by CBS in their desire to get bad publicity for Bush.

Having somehow overlooked the massive media bias in the US against Bush (less than 10% of journalists say they voted for him), Misa concludes that somehow the media are why Bush got re-elected. Umm he won in spite of the media, not because of them.

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38 Responses to “Tapu Misa on media bias”

  1. Craig Ranapia () says:

    Now, now, David – haven’t you heard of the Piers Morgan Defence: It’s OK to lie, as long as those lies are ‘basically accurate’.

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  2. looke () says:

    Riiiiiight… and so the reason I know know more about what is going on, now that I read bloggs, than when I just read the paper and listened to National Radio is … um … the bloggs must be biased!

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  3. Paul () says:

    Well, I make a point of spilling my lunch on her odious wank-fests (does that apply to alleged women? not sure – don’t care) so no one else in the office has to suffer the stupid slapper’s views. I am genearlly appreciated for it too. If it wasn’t for the Herald there would be a lot of unemployed fuckwits with poly-wally-teknik jurno sub-degrees wandering the streets bathing the feet of the homeless. Reason enough for the Hearald to liquidate.

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  4. Mark () says:

    Tapu (does that mean she’s bad luck?) Misa’s article is one copious stream of irony although I don’t think she quite sees it

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  5. jamesh () says:

    It’s an interesting twist on things. She would certainly not have to put in too much effort to come across the likes of “oh,that liberal media” and “accuracy in media”, both of which take the opposing view and have a fair amount of evidence to back it up. Mr Jordan from CNN is another you couldn’t accuse of being pro Bush. The trouble with some people is if they can’t accept something as fact (in that the greater number of American citizens wanted Bush over John Kerry) then they are continually searching for something else which must have been an effect.
    One more thing on journalists. Bearing in mind the majority of them these days have learnt their trade at Universities how many would believe they have been under the influence of right-wing lecturers during that time?

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  6. phil u. () says:

    sorry you lot…tapu misa is one of the best columnists we have…her pieces are characterised by intelligence and insight…it’s a powerful combination……c’mon, name anyone who’s better?

    cheers

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  7. David Farrar () says:

    Phil – I agree Tapu Misu is a good columnist and writes very well. I was merely pointing out that she actually proved her point about bias reflecting our background in that in reporting on US bias she only sees it in favour of Bush, when there is a wealth of evidence most of it is against Bush.

    Likewise I don’t tend to mention the small amount of pro-Bush bias much.

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  8. shultz () says:

    Phule- I don’t believe “better” is the correct wording, i think it would have been more appropriate to use “name anyone just as shit…”

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  9. Kimble () says:

    Name anyone better? Rudman, Russel Brown…ow ow OW! I think I just gave myself cancer.

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  10. Mark () says:

    Jim Hopkins without a doubt. Although he needs to lighten up a bit

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  11. Sean () says:

    I enjoy Jane Clifton in the Listener. She’s the only one on staff who sticks to the five W’s and H. Everyone else thinks their opinion is more important.

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  12. baxter () says:

    The Newspaper commentators seem to me to all be left wing even though they never declare their bias. The radio talkback on the other hand seem to have a good mixture and they do tend to declare their bias. I find the comumnists in the Australian far more readable than our own though I concede Jim Hopkins can write the occasional good article.

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  13. phil u () says:

    mark..you think tapu is crap and like jim hopkins…..sure you haven’t got an old skoda tucked away in your garage?…and a silly tie or two?..fond of crimpeline?..you’d probably think pam ayers was a read hoot too….say no more

    “..although I don’t think she quite sees it..”
    no mark, that’s you.

    in your own words, eh?

    cheers

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  14. phil u () says:

    paul…could you go and soak your grotty mind in a big bucket of industrial strength detergent?..i sure we’d all appreciate that…thank you

    cheers

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  15. Paul () says:

    Good grief, it doesn’t take much to pull philu’s personal abuse trigger.

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  16. phil u () says:

    paul..strong criticism is one thing…the mindless emptying of your bent little mind is something else..go back and read what you said…do you have some form of serious sexual hangup?….strange venting…..strange, angry, man..

    cheers

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  17. Paul () says:

    Its a university turn of phrase.

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  18. Paul () says:

    Otago is known for turning our rough charmers. we don’t tend to have bent nor small minds. I can confirm I have no sexual hang ups, nor am I particularly angry. But I do have a strong distaste for Ms Misa’s witterings. They are far from editorial, or opinion for that matter. They are no more than repetition leftie party line. And a yawn.

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  19. phil u () says:

    paul..”..Otago is known for turning our rough charmers…”
    have you turned yet, dear heart?

    i must say i never realised otago hard men led such a varied and open sexual lifestyle…you go girl..

    cheers

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  20. Paul () says:

    Fuck off asshole.

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  21. phil u () says:

    gotcha..one-nil

    cheers

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  22. Paul () says:

    Get a life then.

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  23. jackal () says:

    astuallyyou can be quite hilarious at times phil, but in response to your statement about naming a better journo than Misa, well isn’t that an indictment at the degree of shittiness of NZ media? I mean honestly, if she is the best we have, then no wonder people are turning more and more to the internet to get their info

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  24. phil u () says:

    jackal..thanks..if i can do some shameless self-promotion, you can get more of that for free at whoar.co.nz..

    i reckon tapu could publish anywhere in the world.
    i rank her with julie birchill for example.
    good writers can write about two flies crawling up a wall, and make you see it in a different way.

    another example is jeremy clarkson writing on cars.
    i wouldn’t read anyone else writing on cars, the subject bores me rigid, but he’s good.

    but as far as defending the mainstream media here?
    no,, not really.
    i do news stories, and i find for example that the herald carries many stories i’ve done, (or had the option of doing), the day before.
    the limitations of that medium, i guess.

    cheers

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  25. Mark () says:

    Jesus Christ Phil, I was clearly joking with my comment about Hopkins. For fucks sake, are all lefties as obtuse and humourless as you?

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  26. phil u. () says:

    mark..really!…a joke…the most charitable i can be is to suggest you need to do a bit more work on your punchlines.

    cheers

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  27. Mark () says:

    It was obviously too subtle for you, would you prefer a laugh track?

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  28. bushy () says:

    Phil u….typical “i dont have any answer i will just turn to abuse” leftist bullshit!

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  29. phil u. () says:

    bushy..what was to answer?..please tell me and i will..

    i mean, he just bangs on about how he has no sexual hangups(surely not for him to judge)…that he’s not bent(ditto)..hasn’t got a small mind(his comments would contradict that)…isn’t angry(ditto).. dosen’t like tapu…and confesses to us how he and other otago hardmen have a hardcore style of bi-sexuality going on..involving a fair bit of turning.

    did i miss anything?

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  30. Paul () says:

    phil_u

    I “confess” a “hardcore style of bi-sexuality”? Where did you get that from, Dan Rather? I am offended and am feeling defamed.

    You have overstepped the mark. I have no problems finding addresses for service. I should advise that I am a plaintiff’s lawyer and have no problems tracking defendants down. “puremedianz@hotmail.com” is a nice start, don’t work for a newspaper do you??? Doesn’t matter, ISP accounts are even better.

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  31. Paul () says:

    Look forward to some paper at the front desk on Albert St

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  32. phil u () says:

    paul…pray tell how it is possible(in what was an obvious exercise in humour, and a play on your words; which you did not correct), to defame an anonymous person?

    any outing of you will be done by yourself… i wouldn’t have a fucken clue who you are noddy; and neither would any other reader of this forum…

    so as for your threatening me because you are a fucking lawyer. stick it, sunshine.

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  33. Mark () says:

    Dear oh dear Phil, your veneer of smugness just dropped there for an instant and you threw a tanty. Helen would not be impressed. Where’s the tolerance?

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  34. phil u () says:

    mark…if you had read any of my denunnciations of this govt and it’s policies you would be able to dissuade yourself of any idea of me being an apologist of any stripe for clark, labour , or this or any govt. i prefer ideas over dogma.

    you think i’m smug…really mark, this may strengthen your opinion…but i couldn’t give a flying fuck what you think about anyone or anything…tough i know, but there you go.

    as for the unknown humourless bully boy from the south spitting his dummy and putting on his prefects blazer because he was hammered in a verbal duel. (a lawyer, really?) i don’t think that is really on.
    and no, i never have had much tolerance for bullies.

    and hey, if you can’t handle being verbally bitch slapped, don’t stick your head up and ask for it by saying something stupid. (see your previous comments)

    cheers

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  35. Mark () says:

    Ha ha this is getting too easy now

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  36. Paul () says:

    Heh!

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  37. Paul () says:

    Witness credibility 101, how to flush out wankers, it would seem I’ve gone from:

    “possessing a bent little mind and possessing serious sexual hang-ups”, graduated to:

    “an open sexual life style”, to being a:

    “hardcore bisexual”, and am now just a:

    “bully boy from the south with a blazer”.

    No wonder our media is generally a joke. Tapu Misa is still a mis-guided leftie hack and I’m remain a balanced straight guy with an ability to spot wankers.

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  38. phil u () says:

    paul..are you going to tell us who you are; you big tough lawyer boy you;
    c’mon, tell us who the person was who first vomited that pile of slanderous(?)abuse onto these pages. stand behind your words; stop hiding behind a nom de plume.

    your ego must be screaming out for you to out yourself; wreathed in self-deluded self-confidence as you must be..”..I’m remain(sic) a balanced straight guy..” (get thee to a thesaurus).

    i don’t think you realise just how funny you are.

    any, what’s wrong with being bi or gay? it’s legal now, doncha know.

    p.s. the threatened papers haven’t arrived at albert st yet.(i’m still nervously waiting, ha!)

    i sort of get the feeling you’re all mouth and trousers paul. those who know you,(mark?), would possibly be able to confirm or deny that.

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