Maori MPs
September 18th, 2005 at 3:20 pm by David FarrarOnly increased 20 MPs to 21 MPs as NZ First lost so many MPs, many Maori.
21/122 MPs is 17.2% of Parliament, which compares to 12% of the adult population.
The breakdown by party is:
MAP 4/4 100%
NZF 3/7 43%
LAB 10/50 20%
GRE 1/6 17%
NAT 3/49 6%
ACT 0/2 0%
UNF 0/3 0%
JAP 0/1 0%
Georgina te Heuheu is joined in National by Tau Henare and Paula Bennett.
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September 18th, 2005 at 3:41 pm
And Clem Simich!
Vote:September 18th, 2005 at 3:44 pm
We should remember that Don, in what I considered to be one of the campaign’s funniest moments, also counts Clem Simich.
This was seconds after telling Sean Plunket how ridiculous it was that people with mostly European blood were considered to be ‘Maori’.
Vote:September 18th, 2005 at 9:52 pm
Given how few Maori MPs National has, do they have a mandate to scrap them?
Oh wait, it doesn’t matter as they lost
Vote:September 19th, 2005 at 7:51 am
Greg:
I really don’t see your point – Governments get their mandate from the voters (white, brown, yellow, the shade of grey you turn after a night on the turps, whatever) not the melanin levels of their caucus. We also do weight votes in Parliament by MP’s race, sexual oientation, gender or anything else. Most legislation is passed by a simple majority.
Oh wait, Greg, you don’t believe in Parliamentary democracy when it doesn’t suit his ideology.
Vote:September 19th, 2005 at 8:38 am
Well, all vitriol aside, a few weeks ago I said that I thought the Nats would increase thier share of votes but would not be able to form a government – and that’s the way it looks.
How long will Mr Magoo be able to stay at the top, and has Gerry booked his stomach stapling operation in yet?
Vote:September 19th, 2005 at 9:58 am
mikeybill:
Come 2008, Brash has a better chance of being leader of the National Party than Michael Cullen, who I pick will lose the deputy leadership, once the caucus starts looking for a campaign scapegoat, and be quietly moved out of finance for a (politically) safer pair of hands.
Vote:September 19th, 2005 at 10:12 am
Does anyone else here on the Right notice that despite their supposed opposition to racism the Left is steeped in what amounts to a racialist view of life?
Vote:September 19th, 2005 at 10:19 am
Anyone wonder at the Maori Party being set up to
Vote:gain independence from the Labour party now giving their party vote to Labour and considering coalition with Labour? curiouser and curiouser
September 19th, 2005 at 12:21 pm
I noticed during the election campaign that the more rabid Maori Party candidates were chained together deep in a cellar somewhere until the voting was done.Sharples’ genial,inclusive manner on the TV debate and Turia’s icy calm and reasonableness fascinated me.But watch the “racial” fur start flying any time soon.
Vote:September 19th, 2005 at 1:12 pm
There’s no way Don will get rolled. He’s making noises about stepping down – presumably he doesn’t relish the prospect of another three years on the opposition benches twidlling his thumbs. He may also resign for ‘personal reasons’ of which everyone in Wellington is already largely aware. Personally I think it’d be a shame to see him go.
I guess John Key will replace Don. Whoever it is they’ll probably spend more time defending their position from the frighteningly arrogant and monstrously ambitious Tim Grosser than they will attacking the government.
Vote:September 19th, 2005 at 1:57 pm
The emergence of the Maori party, noone knows what they are going to do.
Needing to massage up to three minor parties.
An economy that is slowing.
Increased migration of the young and educated.
Unions regaining clout and increased industrial action.
A housing market primed for collapse.
[speculation] Numerous government departmental scandals still to be uncovered.
NCEA is still crap.
Welfare continuing to blow out.
Health spending spiralling upwards without an improvement in services.
Continued erosion of confidence in the Police and law enforcement in general.
Maybe it was a good election to lose?
Vote:September 19th, 2005 at 2:37 pm
“Come 2008, Brash has a better chance of being leader of the National Party than Michael Cullen,…”
Craig, you’re probably right
I doubt Cullen will ever be leader of the National Party.
Vote:September 19th, 2005 at 2:38 pm
Kimble: nice rationalisation. Makes a change from the chest-thumping and posturing pre-election.
Vote:September 19th, 2005 at 2:46 pm
Well Paul, I am sick of Labour taking credit for an economy that has thrived despite them and for prosperity that would not be possible without the reforms that they largely opposed. It is about time they were made accountable for the things they have done and maybe the next three years what they have wrought will bubble to the surface and become evident to more people.
Vote:September 19th, 2005 at 3:57 pm
Heh dim Whats the goss about Dons personal reasons? And whats this about Grosser?
Vote:September 22nd, 2005 at 8:56 am
It never ceases to amaze me that “mainstream” New Zealand has NEVER understood the Maori cultural practice of determining membership. Hence some of the nonsense that is said.
Under Maori cultural norms it is the ability of an individual to trace a line of descent to an ancestor (who in turn has rights in or represents a particular tribal group) which counts. Because Maori have a “cognatic” (ie. through both parents) descent system, all ancestral possibilities are open to be considered for tribal membership and rights. It is not a matter of percentage or proportion.
In contrast, the idea of “blood” is culturally European, coming from a background or racist/evolutionist science that developed in the mid C19th (Darwin and all that). In this framework, blood is supposedly connected to culture, identity (and for racists, brains). How much “blood” you have regulates how much “culture”. Unfortunately, this remains the popular conception of what identity is about for many “mainstream” kiwis, including Dr Brash.
For Maori, the “percentage” of blood is entirely meaningless. Rights and identity are based on descent. Thus Maori often talk about pride in their “taha Pakeha”, or Pakeha side. To disparage ancestors who are not Maori is to insult oneself – the spirit of the ancestors lives on in the present, irrespective of whether they are Irish, German, or Ngati X.
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