Operation Police Rescue

September 11th, 2005 at 9:37 am by David Farrar

has launched Operation Police Rescue. Now personally I think all you need to do is sack George Hawkins and one will be 90% there, but some sensible extra ideas are pledged:

* Boost the police front line with a target of the Australian police-to-population levels. In 2002 these were 230 per 100,000

* Recruit experienced, retired staff to join the 111 communications centres

* ensure all traffic patrols are directed to respond to 111 emergencies.

* Abolish parole for all repeat and violent criminals so police are not continually chasing career criminals and locking them away.

* Scrap quota ticketing for traffic offences so traffic policing to focus on killer roads and killer drivers, not ticket quotas.

* Take DNA from everyone arrested.

* Cut form-filling demands. Recent reports show that on average an officer fills out 14 forms for each domestic lock-up.

* Lower the age of criminal responsibility to 12; move offenders to the Youth Court after two family group conferences; and establish parenting orders to support parents of persistent young offenders to learn skills to deal with their children.

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21 Responses to “Operation Police Rescue”

  1. TomV () says:

    Take DNA from everyone arrested??

    What a waste of time. I suggest a compulsory DNA database filled by testing everyone at birth. Some sort of number tattooed on the arm would make life easier as well.

    BTW given the current DNA testing backlog, how is National intending to fund and resource this police state?

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  2. Vanzyl () says:

    I think parental responsibility and liability has to be on the forefront. Make the parents liable for their kids behavior.

    And the most important thing is to show people that drug users are losers. We try and fight the damage and cost of illegal drugs, but the uptake is still increasing. The reason is that we have gone soft on what we say about users.

    My wife believes that she has the perfect way to slow down the rate at which young girls start smoking. She would run a series of commercials showing girls how smoking makes you look older and uglier early in your life. In other word, smoking makes you look ugly.

    Same thing goes for drugs. If we start pushing the point that users are no hopers and losers, then we will turn the tide on uptake as well.

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  3. Vanzyl () says:

    And before people start beating me up over this, the wife and myself do a hell of a lot of volunteer work with people trying to put their life together after drug abuse.

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  4. Zippy Gonzales () says:

    Thank Dagg you’re not in charge of drug policy, Vanzyl. In spite of thirty years of the Misuse of Drugs Act, all indicators show that the policy isn’t doing what it is supposed to.

    Show me a person who thinks drugs are for no hopers and losers, and I’ll show you someone who doesn’t like The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Louis Armstrong, Bob Marley, William Shakespeare, Hunter S Thompson, Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Carl Sagan and all the other no-hopers who have made the world a better place.

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  5. kyotolaw () says:

    This is all fine except for the DNA policy. What happens if I am mistakenly arrested or accused of a crime? Will the sample be destroyed if I am found to be innocent?

    This seems to breach the innocent until proven guilty ideal…

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  6. Gman () says:

    This is great on-message positive campaigning fort the last week.

    again, much cleverer stuff from the nats.

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  7. Jules van Cruysen () says:

    I don’t have too much of a problem with this but the DNA stuff strikes me as severely problematic, I think you guys have been watching a little too much CSI. While I do not have a problem with taking DNA from all of those arrested (it could be a good indication of other crimes committed) this information should not just be

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  8. GeniusNZ () says:

    I think too many people have been watching B grade sci-fi/horror movies.

    What is your problem with taking DNA?
    In what way would a police state find having your DNA specifically useful except to catch rapists and murderers and so forth ?

    Sure you could complain about taking photos of criminals or finger prints or, god forbid, NAMES – now thats “pretty scary” – but DNA?

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  9. Logix () says:

    Curious, with actual crime dropping we all seem to be keen on adding more police. I’ve got it…make us ALL police and then the crime rate will be zero!!

    Why stop at DNA testing at birth… I want a surgically implanted GPS locator that allows the state to record our every movement for our entire lives.

    I’m sure all those retired 111 call centre folk are just clamouring to come out of the premature retirement that the previous National govt put them into.

    No more parole eh…please budget for me the cost of the 20-40% increase in the prison beds required. Or is there some National party policy fine print that details how prisoners are now to be “hot bunked” and made to do “hard labour” on roads and quarries to pay for it all. Doncha just luv chain gangs!

    And by all means eliminate police form filling, makes it so much easier to fudge evidence, short circuit due process and generally cover up mistakes if there isn’t any paper trail.

    As for lowering the age of criminal responsibility to 12, by all means, as long as we lower the age of sexual consent, the age of driving, the age of drinking, the age of opening a credit account, and the age of serving in our armed forces to the same as well.

    I’m taking the piss for sure, but I just know that all you righties just hankering to see NZ overtake the USA in it’s prison inmates per 100,000 of pop, so as we can take our rightful place at the head of the OECD in at least one meaningful measure.

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  10. Alex () says:

    Ugh DNA. For serious and repeat offenders maybe, but not everybody who’s arrested, and certainly not those who aren’t convicted.

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  11. Jules van Cruysen () says:

    I just read the thing regarding youth offenders; I think this is a little dodgy as well. We need to look (as a country) at the roll of young people in our socioety and assing them a real and coherent package of rights and responcibilities to make life fairer on the tykes.

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  12. Zippy Gonzales () says:

    Interesting to see National vowing to cut paperwork and DNA test every arrestee. C’mom, c’mon which one is it? You can’t have both.

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  13. rejected () says:

    In this country it is guilty until proven innocent anyway.
    Will National tackle the problem of false accusations?
    Will it tackle the problem of inexperienced police officers bungling investigations because of inadequate training?
    If so they have my vote.

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  14. TomV () says:

    I’ve been pondering this non parole thing. Parole serves a useful purpose and I don;t think canning it altogether is the right idea, it just needs reworking. IMO 2 changes would be enough to fix it.

    First, let the judge sentence both prison term and parole. So offender gets x years, plus x years parole. Parole would work much the same as now, but the prime sentence would be reported as the non parole period, with parole additional

    Secondly, the proportion of sentence available on parole is too high, it should be no more than maybe 20 %

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  15. TomV () says:

    Bugger forgot the age of criminal responsibility bit. I wonder how long since the person who thought that bit of knee jerk policy up spent a decent amount of time with a 12 year old.

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  16. GeniusNZ () says:

    I think the no parol argument is a bad idea – the problem is that it removes the ability to deal with each situation on its own merits. For example a well behaved prisoner or one that is actualy no longer a danger gets no reward for that. and we waste money keeping him in jail. Maybe what you need is concequences for those that allow a prisoner out if he reoffends.

    Cutting form filling looks like a good idea logix’s point is nonsense since you should only need one form – besides of you have GPS survelence and so forth (as suggested by logix)of all the cops you no longer need to ask them where they were there is a form or two saved already! And it probably solves the false alligations thing too.

    As to the age of criminal responsibility – the whole concept implies a wrongheaded aproach to crime. Even if you can explain how someone is not “responsible” for their actions – it is irrelevant. A 12 yr old who murders a group of people should go to a institution to reform him or isolate him from society just like a 50 year old should age in itself should make no difference.

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  17. Vanzyl () says:

    Zippy I am not even going to attempt to remonstrate with you on the first part of your post.
    But you are welcome to come with us when we sit through the night with people trying to provide some comfort while they fight their demons. And until then, until you have sat in the back of an ambulance with a young person who have tried to rip off their own face or kill themselves, keep your celebrity admiring, book learnt pseudo health believes to yourself.
    Just a little hint before you go to school. Van Gogh was a great painter not because he was mad enough to cut off his ear, but despite of it.

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  18. Zippy Gonzales () says:

    Vanzyl, I’m not going to have a game of Competitive Suffering with you. Suffice to say I’ve seen a fair cross-section of trauma in the human condition.

    As alcohol prohibition is the USA demonstrated, banning things only makes things worse. It raises barriers for people who do have trouble dealing to seek help. It removes quality and portion controls, meaning that one can never be sure of doseage. Most importantly, it removes the protections that the state is meant to ensure for all its citizens.

    Would your face rippers and suicide jobs be better off in court or in treatment? Use the right tool for the job.

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  19. Scott () says:

    Serious crimes (murder, rape, etc) need serious punishment. The hell with ‘good-behaved’ prisoners, they did the crime, they must pay for it in proper prison facility (not expensive holiday prisons like we have now). This is also to be fair to the victims, yes please remember the victims before you pledge for softer punishment.

    Prisoners should only get bare necessity (like bread and water) and work to earn money if they want more stuff (like cigi), just like the rest of us who happens to behave well.

    This will give the right message to the rest of the people. Criminals pay for their crime, not other people.

    Also a good message for youngsters to think twice before they even ever think to want to break any part of the law.

    Please, no more symphaty for the criminals, it cost you and I too much.

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  20. Vanzyl () says:

    Zippy I very seldom drink. Maybe once a week i’ll have a couple of glasses of really good wine with dinner. Maybe once a month I will be at a party and have a couple of beers spread out over say 2 hours. Usaully accompanied by food. It does not change my mood, behaviour or brain chemistry. I like the majority of people drink wine for the taste. You do not pop a pill for the taste, nor do you light a joint for a taste. About 10 % of our friends smoke dope (great name for it) and I smoked it heavily in England and in Africa.

    The reason you do dope is totally different to drinking wine and beer for most. Yes I know there is plenty who abuse alcohol.

    Any-one who believe that prohibition does not eradicate would be absolutely correct, however it does slow down uptake. One of the worse drugs in the world would have to be Cigarettes. It is addictive and does nothing for you. We all know it, we see ads on the telly, hear about it all the time etc. Yet the highest growth of smokers are in teenage girls. The uptake is increasing. Why? because it is legal.

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  21. Kelly Broadbent () says:

    How on earth do National propose to “establish parenting rders to support parents of persistent young offenders to learn skills to deal with their children”. Vanzyl, you say parents ought to be held responsible for their childs behaviour? In a world where the only human interaction a child has is with its parents, your arguement would have logic. In this society, many children spend more time with their teachers than with their parents. Parents are ONE of many key factors that influence a childs life. They are by NO means the sole influence and cannot be held responsible for the entire belief and value system of the child.

    The reason we don’t have a strong police force is that no new recruits are coming! National wants to lower taxes, how can they afford to pay police more if the country is going to have to sell assets to make the tax cut as it is?

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