Two sad cases

November 27th, 2005 at 12:48 pm by David Farrar

The SST has a very sad story on how two teenagers ended up as racist criminals, having been brainwashed by the National Front.

Well done to Tove Partington for helping the Police arrest them. [A previous link has been removed upon request]

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  1. err... Says:

    “Note that last link is to a basically a white supremacist site, so be prepared to be offended.”

    I dunno, reads a lot like about half the posters who show up here every time a thread mentions Muslims – asinine and self-righteous.

    What baffles me is that the likes of the national front can’t look in the mirror and realise that they’re the same moronic, extremist wing of society that produces terrorists everywhere. Whether they’re mosque-defacing arab-hating dumbfucks or suicide-bombing jew-hating dumbfucks, they’re really all the same idiotic breed of human being. The war isn’t between Islam and civilisation, it’s between reasonable people and stupid bastards like these.

    Not all terrorists are Muslims. All terrorists are, however, shit-for-brains extremists.

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  2. James Says:

    The same National Front scum that supported the NZ First scum’s immigration policy.What do the Labour scum have to say about that?

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  3. Asher Says:

    David – I ask that you please remove the second link in your piece. That website is based on a UK website called Redwatch, which has resulted in a large number of assaults (including firebombings) of UK based anti-racist activists, gay rights activists and other groups with the Nazis disagree with.

    The site you linked to has previously posted details such as my Father’s address, and the names, phone numbers and photos of many Australian and New Zealand activists and others. The person who runs the site, Australian Nazi Ben Weerheym, has been convicted in his role in a number of attacks on Jewish targets in Perth, during his association with the ANM (Australian Nationalist Movement).

    Thanks,
    Asher

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  4. kakariki Says:

    Yeah David, you really should remove that second link. The person running it really doesn’t need any encouragement.

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  5. David Farrar Says:

    I’m unsure that pretending a site doesn’t exist by removing a link is that effective a way of battling what they stand for. Isn’t it better to let as many people as possible see what they say – after all the more who see it, the less support they would get in my opinion.

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  6. Asher Says:

    David – The more publicity that site gets, the more encouraged Ben will be to continue threatening myself and my friends with physical harm.

    Just a few months ago, Nic Miller, a local Nazi, former Wellington Rep of the National Front and founder of the New Zealand National Socialist Party, attempted to run me over. He has already been charged with the beating of 4 Somali youths in Wellington, and has been linked to the attacks on the Jewish cemetaries in Bolton St and Makara in Wellington, and a Jewish memorial in Wanganui.

    Earlier this afternoon, Jason Molloy and Ross Baumgarten, former webmaster/intelligence officer and former youth rep of the National Front, were sentanced to 1 year and 7 months in jail for their attacks on Auckland Mosques and their drive-by BB gun shootings earlier this year.

    All 3 are known to use the internet heavily in terms of Nazi intelligence gathering and organising. Jason is known to have had significant contact with Ben Weerheym.

    In short, this isn’t a fucking game David. Sorry, but I’m not going to be polite anymore. By publicising Ben’s site, you are indirectly placing people such as myself in serious risk of physical harm.

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  7. woppo Says:

    According to the unfortunate ‘North Shore mum Bonnie Baumgarten,’ – ‘A boy that’s really bad to the core of his being doesn’t say “I love you mum” every time he speaks to you from jail.’

    Perhaps the answer lies in Philip K. Dick’s “The Man in the High Castle” -
    ‘Their trouble, she decided, is with sex; they did something foul with it back in the ‘thirties, and it has gotten worse. Hitler started it with his – what was she? His sister? Aunt? Niece? And his family was inbred already; his mother and father were cousins. They’re all committing incest, going back to the original sin of lusting for their own mothers. That’s why they, those elite SS fairies have that angelic simper, that blond babylike innocence; they’re saving themselves for Mama. Or for each other.’

    And Asher, you’re right, it certainly isn’t a fucking game – although it is/was for those two clowns.
    But I respectfully suggest that by repeating here their silly self-aggrandising titles – ‘intelligence officer,’ f’fucksnakes – you’re allowing yourself to be drawn into their infantile sphere of reference, and effectively aiding and abetting their drongo fantasies much more so than DPF’s link ever could.

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  8. Asher Says:

    Woppo – I should have said “intelligence” officer, and normally I do. Not sure why I left out the sarcasm, but I was (and still am) angry so that probably had something to do with it.

    Of course, Jason was active in his role – he joined and monitored a NZ Jewish community email list, until I discovered his membership and outed him, and he also collected a number of details about me (such as my cellphone number and father’s address) and spread them around Nazi circles.

    So, even if the title is a joke, the effects certainly were not.

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  9. David Farrar Says:

    Asher – I suggest remaining polite is advisable. I respond to reason not demands.

    I agree with you totally about how bad they are. But isn’t the solution that the Police take action, or that their site is closed down if it breaks any laws.

    I found the site, like anyone can, by searching on Google. Suggesting that more people will find it through me than Google is hard to fathom. If I now remove the link, that may in itself generate more attention to it, rather than leaving it there, buried down my site.

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  10. dim Says:

    Nic Miller . . . has been linked to the attacks on the Jewish cemetaries in Bolton St and Makara in Wellington

    Linked by whom?

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  11. Tove Says:

    Hey. I would actually Like it if you could remove that link. i get enough shite from nazis as it is, and that site is slander and the bane of my life.

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  12. Asher Says:

    David – Thank you for removing the link. In response to your comments:

    The Police have proven to be completely innefectual with regards to the NZ Nazi movement.

    As an example, the Police did not follow up in any way whatsoever on my complaint laid just 25 minutes after Nic Miller attempted to run me over. The Police’s response was limited to

    “We’d like to interview him, but even though he’s currently on bail for assault charges, we don’t actually know where to find him.”

    So you’ll excuse me for not having any faith in them…

    Add to that the trans-Tasman jurisdictional issues that Ben’s blog creates (An Australian writing about New Zealanders on an American-hosted website) and you’ll see that action is nearly impossible to take.

    As for your claims of the level of visitors between you linking and it being listed on Google, these are simply ridiculous for the following reasons:

    1) People viewing your site would (likely) not be searching for this kind of site on Google, and thus would not have seen it without your help.

    2) Your site is a popular site, and thus linking to it will improve it’s Google pagerank, thereby raising it in the Google listings and making it easier to find for those who want to.

    3) As you proudly boast every month, this is a very popular site. I can guarantee that the amount of people who visited his site via this link is far greater than the amount that would have visited normally.

    Dim – By the Police (off the record, of course), by the media and by anti-racist activists (who know more than anyone else about what goes on. Witness the fact that Jason and Ross’ BB gun shooting arrest was known to Fight Dem Back! [ http://www.fightdemback.org ] long before any other media found out about it).

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  13. K R Bolton Says:

    Asher Goldman is a liar and a hypocrite. He whines about a belated and relatively minor site in Australia , Leftywatch, yet this was only a response to Fightdemback (FDB). FDB carries a hit-list and photos of individuals that have somehow fallen afoul of communists and anarchists. Goldman is a principal NZ collaborator of FDB, possibly now the NZ co-ordinator with the departure of Robert Trigan. Goldman and others photograph political opponents for publication on FDB yet shout bloody murder if any photos of them have appeared on rival sites.
    FDB is run by a self-confessed child abuser, Mat Henderson Hau of Sydney. Hau aka DARP, finds it amusing to spread hoax allegations about their opponents being paedophiles and the like, and use the filthiest language and innuendo in e-mailing their opponents.
    Goldman claims to have been harassed by neo-nazis (i.e. anyone not an anarchist or communist) yet harasses individuals and follows people about the streets with his gutless comrade, schoolteacher Barrie Sargeant, who threatened to ‘arrange’ for my wife to be ‘beaten up’.
    The latest I’ve just seen from Goldman, by accident, is on his own website, where he accuses me of having incited Molloy and Baumgarten to desecrate the Auckland mosques. In fact I resigned from the NF because I got sick of such antics and was powerless to stop them. I was also instrumental in having Goldman’s nemesis Nic Miller stepped down as Wgtn. NF organiser, although the details of the Somali incident were far from clear, but was unable to get Nic expelled. Now Goldman and his child molester leader Darp seem to think they can post any criminal libel with impunity. We’ll see….

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  14. Ben Weerheym Says:

    woah! you go asher!

    If I had 5cent peice for every time you used the word “nazi” I’d be a millionaire!!

    If I’m a “nazi” then you are a zionist, gentile hater, oops, you are!

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  15. Ben Weerheym Says:

    woah! you go asher!

    If I had 5cent peice for every time you used the word “nazi” I’d be a millionaire!!

    If I’m a “nazi” then you are a zionist, gentile hater, oops, you are!

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  16. Ben weerheym Says:

    I and many others will agree whole heartedly with Kerry boltons post.

    Asher, I have some nice photos of you taken a little while ago that a helpful person from NZ sent me through the post. You seem to be ultimtely opposed to people taking your photo but you seem to always have that digi vamera with the nice zoom lens stuck to you.

    at this.. “Asher Goldman is a liar and a hypocrite.”

    In regards to Molly and baumgarten, It is known that Tove Partington was an instigator that helped them get into trouble by promoting said mosque attacks.

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  17. Leftywatch Says:

    oh no! the Leftywatch site address and email address has now appeared three times on this site!

    aaarrgg! run for the hills! the fascists bully boys are coming to get meeee!!

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  18. Juan Fernandez Says:

    [quote]In regards to Molly and baumgarten, It is known that …. was an instigator that helped them get into trouble by promoting said mosque attacks[/quote]

    Known by whom? Yourself Ben’Thor Hammered’Weerheym? Ross and Jason were ultimately responsible for their own actions. Their acts were indicative of the brutishness inherant within the remnants of the NZNF.

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  19. Tove Says:

    Oh holy Christ. Would you ever shut the hell up. Christ, this shite is so boring, and so fucking old. Ben, you are crap and boring. Get some new dirt on me, or shut the hell up.

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  20. Barrie Says:

    Kerry Raymond Bolton…you talk a lot of tripe as usual. I won’t waste time here on following up every aspect of your ranting, except to say that your libellous scribbling does nothing to add to your credibility. Rather, I want to ask why you never responded to the key point I raised on Asher’s blog? Forgotten what it was? Namely, do you deny ever having distributed or promoted Nazi and Fascist material? Is your silence on this question a form of confirmation by omission?

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  21. Barrie Says:

    Kerry Raymond Bolton…you talk a lot of tripe as usual. I won’t waste time here on following up every aspect of your ranting, except to say that your libellous scribbling does nothing to add to your credibility. Rather, I want to ask why you never responded to the key point I raised on Asher’s blog? Forgotten what it was? Namely, do you deny ever having distributed or promoted Nazi and Fascist material? Is your silence on this question to be taken as confirmation that you have done so?

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  22. Ben W Says:

    Hello Barrie DO YOU LIKE YOUR PROFILE?

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  23. Ben W Says:

    Hello Barrie DO YOU LIKE YOUR PROFILE?

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  24. johnie Says:

    Interesting company you keep here, David. Is this what we have to look forward to from the great neoliberal revolution?

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