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	<title>Comments on: Auckland Rates</title>
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		<title>By: CH</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184941</link>
		<dc:creator>CH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The big issues never get resolved in greater Auckland because there is never consensus between the different Councils.

A second bridge will never ever be built because North Shore has differing opinions as to where the bridge should go from the opinion of Auckland.&quot;

So you&#039;re saying if there was just one council we would not have differing opinions on the suitablility of major roading projects and therefore no opposition?  

This is exactly the reason I believe merging the cities is a bad idea. The reason there are still separate cities is because they represent the interests of their residents. Look at the extreme view- local government entirely abolished and everything contolled (even more so) out of Wellington. I somehow doubt in this scenario that local representation would be of a very high standard.

In actual fact I believe it is currently ARTA and Transit that have the majority of sway on the develoment of transport infrastructure planning in Auckland anyway. Maybe they just need to pull their thumbs out and start showing results.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The big issues never get resolved in greater Auckland because there is never consensus between the different Councils.</p>
<p>A second bridge will never ever be built because North Shore has differing opinions as to where the bridge should go from the opinion of Auckland.&#8221;</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re saying if there was just one council we would not have differing opinions on the suitablility of major roading projects and therefore no opposition?  </p>
<p>This is exactly the reason I believe merging the cities is a bad idea. The reason there are still separate cities is because they represent the interests of their residents. Look at the extreme view- local government entirely abolished and everything contolled (even more so) out of Wellington. I somehow doubt in this scenario that local representation would be of a very high standard.</p>
<p>In actual fact I believe it is currently ARTA and Transit that have the majority of sway on the develoment of transport infrastructure planning in Auckland anyway. Maybe they just need to pull their thumbs out and start showing results.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bhatnagar</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184940</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Bhatnagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a supercity is a good idea in a  30 year timeframe, but the first step should be the consolidation of natural boundaries first into three smaller admin blocs.

Auckland and the western/central part of Manukau City ought to merge into one city. Perhaps also with some of eastern Waitakere City. Part of Waitakere should merge with the North Shore. the south of Manukau should merge with Papakura. Franklin should join Waikato. Rodney should join North Shore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a supercity is a good idea in a  30 year timeframe, but the first step should be the consolidation of natural boundaries first into three smaller admin blocs.</p>
<p>Auckland and the western/central part of Manukau City ought to merge into one city. Perhaps also with some of eastern Waitakere City. Part of Waitakere should merge with the North Shore. the south of Manukau should merge with Papakura. Franklin should join Waikato. Rodney should join North Shore.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184939</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There already is a second bridge. 

You want the third one now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There already is a second bridge. </p>
<p>You want the third one now?</p>
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		<title>By: Golden Wattle</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184938</link>
		<dc:creator>Golden Wattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CH, you may be for the staus quo but from an outsider looking in that is the crux of the problem.

The big issues never get resolved in greater Auckland because there is never consensus between the different Councils.

A second bridge will never ever be built because North Shore has differing opinions as to where the bridge should go from the opinion of Auckland.

That isnt even on the agenda but the amount of time wasted consulting neighbouring councils on infrastructure issues is absurd.

One Council governing from Bombay to Albany would help to streamline the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CH, you may be for the staus quo but from an outsider looking in that is the crux of the problem.</p>
<p>The big issues never get resolved in greater Auckland because there is never consensus between the different Councils.</p>
<p>A second bridge will never ever be built because North Shore has differing opinions as to where the bridge should go from the opinion of Auckland.</p>
<p>That isnt even on the agenda but the amount of time wasted consulting neighbouring councils on infrastructure issues is absurd.</p>
<p>One Council governing from Bombay to Albany would help to streamline the process.</p>
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		<title>By: CH</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184937</link>
		<dc:creator>CH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Auckland should only have one council, they seem to have more then you can poke a stick at. No wonder their rates are so high they do the same bloody job about 10 times.&quot;

I am comfortable paying my rates for North Shore City council, rather than having wild-eyed lefties running the show as is sadly the case over the bridge.  

Auckland&#039;s cities are close, but very different demographically. North Shore has a right-wing majority in council. Incidentally we also get consistently lower rate increases than Auckland City and the highest rate of business growth in the country. The city is also geographically small enough to be able to see where your rates are going.

I&#039;m all for the status quo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Auckland should only have one council, they seem to have more then you can poke a stick at. No wonder their rates are so high they do the same bloody job about 10 times.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am comfortable paying my rates for North Shore City council, rather than having wild-eyed lefties running the show as is sadly the case over the bridge.  </p>
<p>Auckland&#8217;s cities are close, but very different demographically. North Shore has a right-wing majority in council. Incidentally we also get consistently lower rate increases than Auckland City and the highest rate of business growth in the country. The city is also geographically small enough to be able to see where your rates are going.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for the status quo.</p>
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		<title>By: This Is Christchurch</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184936</link>
		<dc:creator>This Is Christchurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 05:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hubbard is in a coalition. He doesn&#039;t have the numbers to have his own way on all major decisions. The increases will be largely driven by the left faction of his coalition in the council.

Similar comments apply to any other political coalition in any sphere e.g. Promises broken by National when they went into coalition with Winston Peters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubbard is in a coalition. He doesn&#8217;t have the numbers to have his own way on all major decisions. The increases will be largely driven by the left faction of his coalition in the council.</p>
<p>Similar comments apply to any other political coalition in any sphere e.g. Promises broken by National when they went into coalition with Winston Peters.</p>
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		<title>By: Armoured_Passionfruit</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184935</link>
		<dc:creator>Armoured_Passionfruit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aucklanders deserve the wanker for voting him into office in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aucklanders deserve the wanker for voting him into office in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: side show bob</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184934</link>
		<dc:creator>side show bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 04:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can have Auckland. Sounds like the rich and the unemployed will be the only ones able to live there in the furture.Besides Auckland should only have one council, they seem to have more then you can poke a stick at. No wonder their rates are so high they do the same bloody job about 10 times.
Many councils are more interested in political power then any real interest in civic duty, rates are their mealticket and they will milk the ratepayers for every dollar they can screw out of them. Until rates are set in law to match the inflation rate or the people take to the streets nothing will change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can have Auckland. Sounds like the rich and the unemployed will be the only ones able to live there in the furture.Besides Auckland should only have one council, they seem to have more then you can poke a stick at. No wonder their rates are so high they do the same bloody job about 10 times.<br />
Many councils are more interested in political power then any real interest in civic duty, rates are their mealticket and they will milk the ratepayers for every dollar they can screw out of them. Until rates are set in law to match the inflation rate or the people take to the streets nothing will change.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey bill</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184933</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you have the wonderful waste of ratepayers money by the community boards. The Western Bays one spent tens of thousands putting in a performance area in Western Park - not because the public were crying out for it (regular park users, none of whom are on the Community Board opposed it vehemently) but because they had been allocated the money and if they didn&#039;t use it that financial year they lost it.

So far I haven&#039;t seen anyone use the damn thing, but it sits as a reminder of how to waste money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you have the wonderful waste of ratepayers money by the community boards. The Western Bays one spent tens of thousands putting in a performance area in Western Park &#8211; not because the public were crying out for it (regular park users, none of whom are on the Community Board opposed it vehemently) but because they had been allocated the money and if they didn&#8217;t use it that financial year they lost it.</p>
<p>So far I haven&#8217;t seen anyone use the damn thing, but it sits as a reminder of how to waste money.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bhatnagar</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184932</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Bhatnagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;where Mr Hubbard anguished for a council that wasn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>where Mr Hubbard anguished for a council that wasn</i></p>
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		<title>By: Graham Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184931</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democracy </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democracy</p>
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		<title>By: Michael (The Right Wing One)</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184930</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael (The Right Wing One)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 03:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I disagree that David Ogden hasn&#039;t achieved much.  His problem is that he doesn&#039;t appear to do much because he can&#039;t harp on the paper each week about the new Council Project he&#039;s wasting money on.

As for Melling, Petone and Other SH2 improvements, they are solely Transits problem.  I think the Cross-Valley link is 60% Transit funded as well.  As a Waiwhetu Rd resident (about 100m north of the Epuni Baptist) I am very keen to see it proceed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree that David Ogden hasn&#8217;t achieved much.  His problem is that he doesn&#8217;t appear to do much because he can&#8217;t harp on the paper each week about the new Council Project he&#8217;s wasting money on.</p>
<p>As for Melling, Petone and Other SH2 improvements, they are solely Transits problem.  I think the Cross-Valley link is 60% Transit funded as well.  As a Waiwhetu Rd resident (about 100m north of the Epuni Baptist) I am very keen to see it proceed.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bhatnagar</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184929</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Bhatnagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walt, you were after a link that referred to Hubbard&#039;s position on rates?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=737F641A-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=737F641A-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=737F641A-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

He also promised a review of what he called a &quot;disgraceful rating system&quot; - which I note has not occured yet.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=4B755876-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=4B755876-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=4B755876-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;


hubbard quote from the GABA election meeting was:

&lt;i&gt;Hubbard: I am concerned about aged. My mother, 78, pensioner, had a 42 per cent rates increase in last few years. Those with high valued properties had virtually none. It&#039;s a disgrace, needs to be addressed. Will be looking at rates release for elderly and those struggling.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=4773FBE2-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=4773FBE2-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=4773FBE2-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

I note that the 42% rates increase Hubbard was referring to included ARC rates, and thus was a disingenuous remark on his part. For the record, Mrs Hubbard&#039;s (and many other elderly ratepayers) rates increases for Auckland City rates have been significantly higher under Dick Hubbard than previous councils.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walt, you were after a link that referred to Hubbard&#8217;s position on rates?</p>
<p><a href="http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=737F641A-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=737F641A-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561" rel="nofollow">http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=737F641A-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561</a></p>
<p>He also promised a review of what he called a &#8220;disgraceful rating system&#8221; &#8211; which I note has not occured yet.</p>
<p><a href="http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=4B755876-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=4B755876-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561" rel="nofollow">http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=4B755876-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561</a></p>
<p>hubbard quote from the GABA election meeting was:</p>
<p><i>Hubbard: I am concerned about aged. My mother, 78, pensioner, had a 42 per cent rates increase in last few years. Those with high valued properties had virtually none. It&#8217;s a disgrace, needs to be addressed. Will be looking at rates release for elderly and those struggling.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=4773FBE2-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=4773FBE2-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561" rel="nofollow">http://subs.nzherald.co.nz/search/story.cfm?storyid=4773FBE2-39E2-11DA-8E1B-A5B353C55561</a></p>
<p>I note that the 42% rates increase Hubbard was referring to included ARC rates, and thus was a disingenuous remark on his part. For the record, Mrs Hubbard&#8217;s (and many other elderly ratepayers) rates increases for Auckland City rates have been significantly higher under Dick Hubbard than previous councils.</p>
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		<title>By: Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184928</link>
		<dc:creator>Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;it&#039;s (Lower Hutt) traffic woes are getting steadily worse because the Council hasn&#039;t actually built any significant new roading infrastructure for about a decade now&quot;

LOL  

Now let&#039;s all place ourselves in Logix&#039;s make-believe world and pretend that the above doesn&#039;t apply to Auckland....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;it&#8217;s (Lower Hutt) traffic woes are getting steadily worse because the Council hasn&#8217;t actually built any significant new roading infrastructure for about a decade now&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL  </p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s all place ourselves in Logix&#8217;s make-believe world and pretend that the above doesn&#8217;t apply to Auckland&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184927</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Londinium (like many major European cities) is into its third millinium and Auckland hasn&#039;t made it to it&#039;s second century. How exactly are they comparable?

Interestingly Hutt and Auckland are of a similar age though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Londinium (like many major European cities) is into its third millinium and Auckland hasn&#8217;t made it to it&#8217;s second century. How exactly are they comparable?</p>
<p>Interestingly Hutt and Auckland are of a similar age though.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Bhatnagar</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/06/auckland_rates.html#comment-184926</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Bhatnagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gripe should not be over whether Auckland needs to spend money on infrastructure. It does. There are at two issues (IMHO)  that need to be considered.

One issue is that the present council has also shown itself to spend money on things that are demonstrably not core-business or infrastructure, such as social housing or pork barrel politics like silly grants. For example, the council wasted $5 million in penalty fees alone over the Queen St trees thanks to its failure to consult properly. Neither does it give confidence to the ratepayer that rates rises are being spent wisely when Christine Caughey spent $600,000 to be &quot;invested&quot; into &quot;sustainable housing&quot; companies that don&#039;t pay any dividend to the city, or paying for social housing that is central government responsibility. After all - that&#039;s why we have a housing corporation.

A second issue is one of equitable rating. I believe its wrong to whack the rates up based on a persons property values, when the owner of the property may not necessarily have an income that matches the property value. For example, this is most often the case with the elderly, or those on fixed incomes. Hence why user pays, uniform annual charges, or new revenues outside of property based rates ought to be relied on more, so that less of the burden falls on property values. It&#039;s also more equitable, because why should a person pay 25% more in rates one year if they don&#039;t get any extra services? Another related factor to consider is that elderly property ownersy have spent a lifetime contributing towards city infrastructure already.  Why should their rates be dramatically hiked over the next 10 years to pay for infrastructure they will never use or see? 

It&#039;s also on the nose that Auckland has not received its fair share of transport funding from petrol taxes. The money that should have gone to Auckland over the better part of a decade that has instead gone into the central coffers would have made a significant difference to rail, bus and road improvements in the Auckland region. If Auckland has indeed been shortchanged (it pays 35% of the petrol tax, but only gets 28% back) then there&#039;s a compelling case for the govt to pony up to compensate Auckland. A lump sum to electrification of rail and double-tracking of some of the rail corridors would be fantastic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gripe should not be over whether Auckland needs to spend money on infrastructure. It does. There are at two issues (IMHO)  that need to be considered.</p>
<p>One issue is that the present council has also shown itself to spend money on things that are demonstrably not core-business or infrastructure, such as social housing or pork barrel politics like silly grants. For example, the council wasted $5 million in penalty fees alone over the Queen St trees thanks to its failure to consult properly. Neither does it give confidence to the ratepayer that rates rises are being spent wisely when Christine Caughey spent $600,000 to be &#8220;invested&#8221; into &#8220;sustainable housing&#8221; companies that don&#8217;t pay any dividend to the city, or paying for social housing that is central government responsibility. After all &#8211; that&#8217;s why we have a housing corporation.</p>
<p>A second issue is one of equitable rating. I believe its wrong to whack the rates up based on a persons property values, when the owner of the property may not necessarily have an income that matches the property value. For example, this is most often the case with the elderly, or those on fixed incomes. Hence why user pays, uniform annual charges, or new revenues outside of property based rates ought to be relied on more, so that less of the burden falls on property values. It&#8217;s also more equitable, because why should a person pay 25% more in rates one year if they don&#8217;t get any extra services? Another related factor to consider is that elderly property ownersy have spent a lifetime contributing towards city infrastructure already.  Why should their rates be dramatically hiked over the next 10 years to pay for infrastructure they will never use or see? </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also on the nose that Auckland has not received its fair share of transport funding from petrol taxes. The money that should have gone to Auckland over the better part of a decade that has instead gone into the central coffers would have made a significant difference to rail, bus and road improvements in the Auckland region. If Auckland has indeed been shortchanged (it pays 35% of the petrol tax, but only gets 28% back) then there&#8217;s a compelling case for the govt to pony up to compensate Auckland. A lump sum to electrification of rail and double-tracking of some of the rail corridors would be fantastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Silas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, DO you know of any companies that have traded as a result of sister city relationships?

The sports grounds will need drainage, seed and fertiliser, all three.

Now the HCC is involved in some form of company that is investing in broadband internet.  Grrrr!

Still Chris and Roger do try and keep Ogden in line!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, DO you know of any companies that have traded as a result of sister city relationships?</p>
<p>The sports grounds will need drainage, seed and fertiliser, all three.</p>
<p>Now the HCC is involved in some form of company that is investing in broadband internet.  Grrrr!</p>
<p>Still Chris and Roger do try and keep Ogden in line!</p>
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		<title>By: brian_smaller</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 02:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silas - I share your disppointment in Ogden.  They never are the rate slasher&#039;s they make out once they get the big seat.

My gripe is that councils spend money on trips overseas, sister city relationships and crap like that, but close the sports grounds when they get wet because they worry about the damage to the grass.  Spend less on crap and more on grass seed so my Under11 rugby team can actually play some games of rugby this season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silas &#8211; I share your disppointment in Ogden.  They never are the rate slasher&#8217;s they make out once they get the big seat.</p>
<p>My gripe is that councils spend money on trips overseas, sister city relationships and crap like that, but close the sports grounds when they get wet because they worry about the damage to the grass.  Spend less on crap and more on grass seed so my Under11 rugby team can actually play some games of rugby this season.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 9.7% rise last year was AVERAGE we residents of the Eastern Bays increased by 27%.  They were very crafty in using the word average on nearly all the press releases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 9.7% rise last year was AVERAGE we residents of the Eastern Bays increased by 27%.  They were very crafty in using the word average on nearly all the press releases.</p>
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		<title>By: Silas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Logix, just about all of the SH2 issues start with Transit and their funding constraints etc.

Not much point building a new bridge at Melling until decisions are made on the intersection with SH2.

There is probably a stronger case to be made with a better cross link lower down the valley, rather than at Melling.  Somewhere between the Ewen bridge and the Seaview one.

HCC spends absolute loads on Dowse, has more swimming pools per captia than anywhere I know, Petone, Hutt, Stokes, NaeNae, Eastbourne are the ones off the top of my head.  There are also significant libraries in pretty much all of these places too!

HCC main woes was a previous council who spent millions on a PARKING BUILDING!  Go figure!  That has pretty much been dealt too.

Personally, I have been disappointed in David Ogden, since I voted for him.  However the council is still definitely headed in the correct direction compared to the previous two mayors, (Terris and Evans) IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logix, just about all of the SH2 issues start with Transit and their funding constraints etc.</p>
<p>Not much point building a new bridge at Melling until decisions are made on the intersection with SH2.</p>
<p>There is probably a stronger case to be made with a better cross link lower down the valley, rather than at Melling.  Somewhere between the Ewen bridge and the Seaview one.</p>
<p>HCC spends absolute loads on Dowse, has more swimming pools per captia than anywhere I know, Petone, Hutt, Stokes, NaeNae, Eastbourne are the ones off the top of my head.  There are also significant libraries in pretty much all of these places too!</p>
<p>HCC main woes was a previous council who spent millions on a PARKING BUILDING!  Go figure!  That has pretty much been dealt too.</p>
<p>Personally, I have been disappointed in David Ogden, since I voted for him.  However the council is still definitely headed in the correct direction compared to the previous two mayors, (Terris and Evans) IMO.</p>
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