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	<title>Comments on: Michael Laws on Tongan King</title>
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		<title>By: Paul W</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/09/michael_laws_on_tongan_king.html#comment-205193</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 10:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul M, &quot;build a bridge&quot;, puhlease.

Intimidated by Laws intellect, umm no frankly. I have had dealings with him in the past and was not particularly struck by his intellect; cunning, sure, but intellect, no. Actually, even his cunning is somewhat over-rated, he&#039;s got a few tricks sure but is unable to build or sustain coalitions and is a little too impressed by his own reflection. I have read some of his more recent writing though, and I agree, he can be quite erudite on the issues he writes about. I was surprised by some of the ommissions in his biobabble though.

David, I do recall your run-in&#039;s with Laws, all the more reason I&#039;m surprised by your referencing his opinions. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul M, &#8220;build a bridge&#8221;, puhlease.</p>
<p>Intimidated by Laws intellect, umm no frankly. I have had dealings with him in the past and was not particularly struck by his intellect; cunning, sure, but intellect, no. Actually, even his cunning is somewhat over-rated, he&#8217;s got a few tricks sure but is unable to build or sustain coalitions and is a little too impressed by his own reflection. I have read some of his more recent writing though, and I agree, he can be quite erudite on the issues he writes about. I was surprised by some of the ommissions in his biobabble though.</p>
<p>David, I do recall your run-in&#8217;s with Laws, all the more reason I&#8217;m surprised by your referencing his opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Marsden</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/09/michael_laws_on_tongan_king.html#comment-205192</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Marsden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul W....My advice to you is to build a bridge and get over it. Couldnt once stand the man (Laws) myself, but he uniquely articulates the views of the silent majority. If you are intimated by his intellect, oratory skills and worldy-knowldedge, thats  your problem. Ive long learnt to embrace it. Besides, Laws is great for my vocab (though you wouldnt no it from reading my posts here)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul W&#8230;.My advice to you is to build a bridge and get over it. Couldnt once stand the man (Laws) myself, but he uniquely articulates the views of the silent majority. If you are intimated by his intellect, oratory skills and worldy-knowldedge, thats  your problem. Ive long learnt to embrace it. Besides, Laws is great for my vocab (though you wouldnt no it from reading my posts here)</p>
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		<title>By: Owen McShane</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/09/michael_laws_on_tongan_king.html#comment-205191</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen McShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leighton Smith had the right touch regarding the successor of whom no one will speak the name:

&quot;The King is dead. Long live the Queen.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leighton Smith had the right touch regarding the successor of whom no one will speak the name:</p>
<p>&#8220;The King is dead. Long live the Queen.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David Farrar</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/09/michael_laws_on_tongan_king.html#comment-205190</link>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good God Paul - Laws got me arrested and I have blogged in the past my near pathological dislike of him.

However in this instance he does have a point, regardless of how cruedly he puts it, about the King of Tonga.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good God Paul &#8211; Laws got me arrested and I have blogged in the past my near pathological dislike of him.</p>
<p>However in this instance he does have a point, regardless of how cruedly he puts it, about the King of Tonga.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul W</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/09/michael_laws_on_tongan_king.html#comment-205189</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 13:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I figure by quoting Laws you&#039;re siding with him. If that&#039;s not the case, why give the man air? Laws has always lacked judgement, always. If he had a genuine point about corruption, he&#039;d have found a way to make it without the racist epithets. 

Laws is a poor man&#039;s media whore, his fifteen minutes of fame was cut short when he and Antoinette Beck forged their signatures to whatever school-yard scam he had running. Let&#039;s not forget that he was ejected by NZF; I think he wore Dress for Less in a strictly Hallensteins caucus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I figure by quoting Laws you&#8217;re siding with him. If that&#8217;s not the case, why give the man air? Laws has always lacked judgement, always. If he had a genuine point about corruption, he&#8217;d have found a way to make it without the racist epithets. </p>
<p>Laws is a poor man&#8217;s media whore, his fifteen minutes of fame was cut short when he and Antoinette Beck forged their signatures to whatever school-yard scam he had running. Let&#8217;s not forget that he was ejected by NZF; I think he wore Dress for Less in a strictly Hallensteins caucus!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Marsden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Marsden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im a white honkey and have been fortunate enough to employ PI&#039;s in my various businesses, for over 30 years. I am also fortunate enough to be able to call a few of them my good mates. I&#039;ve long got used to the honkey jibes and, long since learnt to retaliate with my own racist slurs upon them in return. However, my slurs pale into insignificance when compared to the nature of the slurs that they make upon their own kind. Its a sign of our maturity as a nation and, our firmly entrenched kinship with the PI&#039;s, that we accept each others differences, but can slag off at each other in good humour but both knowing full-well there is an element of truth behind our slagging. Im the thick, white honkey (or worse) and they are the dumb blacks (or worse). We are just not that precious to care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im a white honkey and have been fortunate enough to employ PI&#8217;s in my various businesses, for over 30 years. I am also fortunate enough to be able to call a few of them my good mates. I&#8217;ve long got used to the honkey jibes and, long since learnt to retaliate with my own racist slurs upon them in return. However, my slurs pale into insignificance when compared to the nature of the slurs that they make upon their own kind. Its a sign of our maturity as a nation and, our firmly entrenched kinship with the PI&#8217;s, that we accept each others differences, but can slag off at each other in good humour but both knowing full-well there is an element of truth behind our slagging. Im the thick, white honkey (or worse) and they are the dumb blacks (or worse). We are just not that precious to care.</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There  is  a  fine  line  between  aiding  and  abetting  (&quot;moral  hazard&quot;)  and  interfering  in  another  nation&#039;s  sovereign  affairs  -  but  debt  relief  came  to  Africa  with strings  attached.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There  is  a  fine  line  between  aiding  and  abetting  (&#8220;moral  hazard&#8221;)  and  interfering  in  another  nation&#8217;s  sovereign  affairs  &#8211;  but  debt  relief  came  to  Africa  with strings  attached.</p>
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		<title>By: george</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/09/michael_laws_on_tongan_king.html#comment-205186</link>
		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 10:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flying the jack at half mast is as much a respect for the office as the individual. The king has tipped up and is now on the same basis with the same questions to answer as any man, no regal rights there.

If the present fiasco with our own power mad leaders continues it may well be appropriate to fly the flag upside down...the international signal for a vessel in distress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flying the jack at half mast is as much a respect for the office as the individual. The king has tipped up and is now on the same basis with the same questions to answer as any man, no regal rights there.</p>
<p>If the present fiasco with our own power mad leaders continues it may well be appropriate to fly the flag upside down&#8230;the international signal for a vessel in distress.</p>
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		<title>By: TIC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TIC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 08:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By making such comment Laws is inciting people to piss on his own grave when he is dead and buried.

I would not advocate such things, nor would I advocate such comments as Laws has made about the King of Tonga. Comparing him to Mugabe is like comparing Helen Clark to Hitler.

I think it is very unfair to prejudge the new King so early in his career.

Whatever one may think of the King of Tonga, he was not a despot or tyrant. In our great and glorious land, people still live in similar conditions (e.g. ordinary members of the Exclusive Brethren cult) that is quite legal under our law. Tonga just happens to be a Pacific country that is still to a large degree a very traditional Polynesian society. Democracy will come just as it has in other Pacific Polynesian countries and the former King helped to move his country in that direction while improving the lives of a great many ordinary Tongans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By making such comment Laws is inciting people to piss on his own grave when he is dead and buried.</p>
<p>I would not advocate such things, nor would I advocate such comments as Laws has made about the King of Tonga. Comparing him to Mugabe is like comparing Helen Clark to Hitler.</p>
<p>I think it is very unfair to prejudge the new King so early in his career.</p>
<p>Whatever one may think of the King of Tonga, he was not a despot or tyrant. In our great and glorious land, people still live in similar conditions (e.g. ordinary members of the Exclusive Brethren cult) that is quite legal under our law. Tonga just happens to be a Pacific country that is still to a large degree a very traditional Polynesian society. Democracy will come just as it has in other Pacific Polynesian countries and the former King helped to move his country in that direction while improving the lives of a great many ordinary Tongans.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;why we keep propping up pacific basket cases anyway&quot;

Aside from grounds of charity, lest they become complete failures, and then breeding grounds for something dangerous and nasty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why we keep propping up pacific basket cases anyway&#8221;</p>
<p>Aside from grounds of charity, lest they become complete failures, and then breeding grounds for something dangerous and nasty.</p>
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		<title>By: brian_smaller</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian_smaller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;a &quot;brown slug&quot;

And Michael Laws is an ugly pale faced worm.&quot;

Hey, I agree on both accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;a &#8220;brown slug&#8221;</p>
<p>And Michael Laws is an ugly pale faced worm.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, I agree on both accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: TheProphet</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheProphet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 00:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonic - 

I do feel stabbed in the back by this government&#039;s attitude to the law.
 
I, like alot of other Kiwi&#039;s, are definitely starting to feel robbed.

and theres a sneaking suspicion that power may have been riipped out of SOMEONES hands.

Allah protect us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonic &#8211; </p>
<p>I do feel stabbed in the back by this government&#8217;s attitude to the law.</p>
<p>I, like alot of other Kiwi&#8217;s, are definitely starting to feel robbed.</p>
<p>and theres a sneaking suspicion that power may have been riipped out of SOMEONES hands.</p>
<p>Allah protect us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/09/michael_laws_on_tongan_king.html#comment-205181</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought it was the Govt-Gen who made that call</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought it was the Govt-Gen who made that call</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
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		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 23:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tongan people do not deserve the corrupt monarchy and government they have.And it doesnt compare to NZ (yet).The problem is NZ and other countries have just thrown money at it without any plan or effort to see a good result The pathetically correct and culturally stupid are to blame. These numbskulls dont think about the conseqences. Those who have spent time there know the country could be a success with an improved living standard that wouldnt require as much assistance from either the Tongan people living in NZ or our government.Before applying fingers to keyboard some of you should think about solutions like MFAT being allowed to put some real pressure on the new King and his family and the nobles to get them to at least join the 20th century and maybe even the 21st century as regards their head space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tongan people do not deserve the corrupt monarchy and government they have.And it doesnt compare to NZ (yet).The problem is NZ and other countries have just thrown money at it without any plan or effort to see a good result The pathetically correct and culturally stupid are to blame. These numbskulls dont think about the conseqences. Those who have spent time there know the country could be a success with an improved living standard that wouldnt require as much assistance from either the Tongan people living in NZ or our government.Before applying fingers to keyboard some of you should think about solutions like MFAT being allowed to put some real pressure on the new King and his family and the nobles to get them to at least join the 20th century and maybe even the 21st century as regards their head space.</p>
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		<title>By: sonic</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/09/michael_laws_on_tongan_king.html#comment-205179</link>
		<dc:creator>sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats right mate, you were robbed, stabbed in the back, power was ripped from your grasping hands by perfidious Labour...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats right mate, you were robbed, stabbed in the back, power was ripped from your grasping hands by perfidious Labour&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: TheProphet</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheProphet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonic 

Dictator, Someone who keeps winning democratic elections.

you forgot to add

With stolen money.

Allah protect us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonic </p>
<p>Dictator, Someone who keeps winning democratic elections.</p>
<p>you forgot to add</p>
<p>With stolen money.</p>
<p>Allah protect us.</p>
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		<title>By: sonic</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dictator, Someone who keeps winning democratic elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dictator, Someone who keeps winning democratic elections.</p>
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		<title>By: side show bob</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/09/michael_laws_on_tongan_king.html#comment-205176</link>
		<dc:creator>side show bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 22:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When can Michael start on Dear Leader? There must be a good name for our beloved dictator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When can Michael start on Dear Leader? There must be a good name for our beloved dictator.</p>
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		<title>By: mikeybill</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikeybill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now just why did Laws have to leave Parliament? Wasn&#039;t it over deceit or something like that? A man of great probity and worthy of admiration I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now just why did Laws have to leave Parliament? Wasn&#8217;t it over deceit or something like that? A man of great probity and worthy of admiration I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: sonic</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a &quot;brown slug&quot;

And Michael Laws is an ugly pale faced worm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a &#8220;brown slug&#8221;</p>
<p>And Michael Laws is an ugly pale faced worm.</p>
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