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		<title>By: Falafulu Fisi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/10/google_and_you_tube.html/comment-page-1#comment-240814</link>
		<dc:creator>Falafulu Fisi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The founders of Google, Mr. Page &amp; Mr. Brin are so scared of Microsoft about what they are going to do. This was an admission by Mr. Brin in an interview on March issue of &quot;Time&quot; magazine, 2006.

Bill Gates, has declared an open war with Google, because Bill wants to snatch the top spot in &quot;search engine&quot; from Google.

This is interesting as competitions are heating up in the domain of &quot;search engine&quot;. I think that the dominance of Google will wane over time, as Microsoft will close the gap with Google, as they are developing their own state-of-the-art search algorithm capability to beat Google.

This competition between vendors will benefit consumers, as price for placed advertisement will come down.

Anyone who wouldn&#039;t think that Bill Gates can beat Google over the coming years, just read about this research paper (see link below) from Microsoft where they have extended the original &#039;PageRank&#039; algorithm or PR  for short, that was invented by founders of Google (Page &amp; Brin), which is the workhorse of Google search engine. This extension of  ‘PageRank’ by Microsoft, which they called  &#039;Block Level PageRank&#039; or BLPR for short, has shown to outperform the current Google&#039;s  &#039;PageRank&#039; in terms of document retrieval &quot;precision&quot;. Document retrieval &quot;precision&quot;, is defined as the proportion of retrieved and relevant documents to all the documents retrieved. Eg, if there are 20 documents retrieved for a search query and only 15 of them are relevant to the query topic, then the precision is  15/20  or  75% precision. 

Go to page 6 of the document (see link below) and check out &#039;Figure 3&#039;  and  &#039;Figure 4&#039; , which shows that Microsoft BLPR algorithm (Block Level PageRank) has higher precision and is superior to Google&#039;s PR (PageRank). The result shown in the paper is verifiable by any software developer who can check out the performance &amp; precision of the algorithms described in the paper. BUT, what about the more advanced version of the algorithm that Microsoft didn&#039;t publish? OK, just extrapolate it forward, if their published algorithm that is shown to beat Google&#039;s &#039;PageRank&#039; in terms of precision, we can all infer that they have a more superior version that is internal to their product development which is superior to their own publicly available algorithm (Block Level PageRank). This PDF paper is freely downloadable below.

&quot;Block-level Link Analysis&quot;
ftp://ftp.research.microsoft.com/pub/tr/TR-2004-50.pdf
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The founders of Google, Mr. Page &#038; Mr. Brin are so scared of Microsoft about what they are going to do. This was an admission by Mr. Brin in an interview on March issue of &#8220;Time&#8221; magazine, 2006.</p>
<p>Bill Gates, has declared an open war with Google, because Bill wants to snatch the top spot in &#8220;search engine&#8221; from Google.</p>
<p>This is interesting as competitions are heating up in the domain of &#8220;search engine&#8221;. I think that the dominance of Google will wane over time, as Microsoft will close the gap with Google, as they are developing their own state-of-the-art search algorithm capability to beat Google.</p>
<p>This competition between vendors will benefit consumers, as price for placed advertisement will come down.</p>
<p>Anyone who wouldn&#8217;t think that Bill Gates can beat Google over the coming years, just read about this research paper (see link below) from Microsoft where they have extended the original &#8216;PageRank&#8217; algorithm or PR  for short, that was invented by founders of Google (Page &#038; Brin), which is the workhorse of Google search engine. This extension of  ‘PageRank’ by Microsoft, which they called  &#8216;Block Level PageRank&#8217; or BLPR for short, has shown to outperform the current Google&#8217;s  &#8216;PageRank&#8217; in terms of document retrieval &#8220;precision&#8221;. Document retrieval &#8220;precision&#8221;, is defined as the proportion of retrieved and relevant documents to all the documents retrieved. Eg, if there are 20 documents retrieved for a search query and only 15 of them are relevant to the query topic, then the precision is  15/20  or  75% precision. </p>
<p>Go to page 6 of the document (see link below) and check out &#8216;Figure 3&#8242;  and  &#8216;Figure 4&#8242; , which shows that Microsoft BLPR algorithm (Block Level PageRank) has higher precision and is superior to Google&#8217;s PR (PageRank). The result shown in the paper is verifiable by any software developer who can check out the performance &#038; precision of the algorithms described in the paper. BUT, what about the more advanced version of the algorithm that Microsoft didn&#8217;t publish? OK, just extrapolate it forward, if their published algorithm that is shown to beat Google&#8217;s &#8216;PageRank&#8217; in terms of precision, we can all infer that they have a more superior version that is internal to their product development which is superior to their own publicly available algorithm (Block Level PageRank). This PDF paper is freely downloadable below.</p>
<p>&#8220;Block-level Link Analysis&#8221;<br />
<a href="ftp://ftp.research.microsoft.com/pub/tr/TR-2004-50.pdf" rel="nofollow">ftp://ftp.research.microsoft.com/pub/tr/TR-2004-50.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: ChickenLittle</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/10/google_and_you_tube.html/comment-page-1#comment-240813</link>
		<dc:creator>ChickenLittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Edt - Youtube has already got deals with four of the big five record co&#039;s. Just SonyBMG to go, I think. 
Those companies realise they are better off doing deals with content providers like Youtube rather than trying to sue.
I&#039;m fairly sure you will see copyright deals flying thick and fast in the next year or so. 
One of Googles many strengths is that it has experience in this area through its ebooks etc.

Google paid 1.2% of its market cap for Youtube and its stock rose 2% yesterday. Nice Huh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edt &#8211; Youtube has already got deals with four of the big five record co&#8217;s. Just SonyBMG to go, I think.<br />
Those companies realise they are better off doing deals with content providers like Youtube rather than trying to sue.<br />
I&#8217;m fairly sure you will see copyright deals flying thick and fast in the next year or so.<br />
One of Googles many strengths is that it has experience in this area through its ebooks etc.</p>
<p>Google paid 1.2% of its market cap for Youtube and its stock rose 2% yesterday. Nice Huh.</p>
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		<title>By: edt</title>
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		<dc:creator>edt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aside from the distribution deals Google is developing to stream music videos etc on YouTube, isn&#039;t it a giant copyright law suit in the making, given the blatantly pirated material people post?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from the distribution deals Google is developing to stream music videos etc on YouTube, isn&#8217;t it a giant copyright law suit in the making, given the blatantly pirated material people post?</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 00:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sonic misses the point entirely, as usual.
Did you actually look at the evidence, sonic or were you simply unable to resist babbling inanities?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonic misses the point entirely, as usual.<br />
Did you actually look at the evidence, sonic or were you simply unable to resist babbling inanities?</p>
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		<title>By: side show bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>side show bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Youtube does work so great here. Takes 10 mins to watch 2, waste of bloody time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Youtube does work so great here. Takes 10 mins to watch 2, waste of bloody time.</p>
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		<title>By: sonic</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Poor Michelle, her p*sspoor videos are not on youtube, what a shame.

of course she does haev here own site and her own video stream (the vent) but nothing seems to stop her moaning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poor Michelle, her p*sspoor videos are not on youtube, what a shame.</p>
<p>of course she does haev here own site and her own video stream (the vent) but nothing seems to stop her moaning.</p>
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		<title>By: brian_smaller</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/10/google_and_you_tube.html/comment-page-1#comment-240808</link>
		<dc:creator>brian_smaller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 18:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a shame that like most people in the west they cave into jihadism though.  They remove anti-jihadi videos but leave the most vile, hate filled and racist jihadi stuff online.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a shame that like most people in the west they cave into jihadism though.  They remove anti-jihadi videos but leave the most vile, hate filled and racist jihadi stuff online.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2006/10/google_and_you_tube.html/comment-page-1#comment-240807</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;YouTube just has more teenage girls dancing around their bedrooms.&quot;
And more jihadist promotional videos and censorship of those who disagree with them.
Google is the perfect buyer, since they&#039;re also biased and dishonest about which news sources they quote in Google News.
Doubt it? go here and have a look:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://michellemalkin.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://michellemalkin.com/&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;YouTube just has more teenage girls dancing around their bedrooms.&#8221;<br />
And more jihadist promotional videos and censorship of those who disagree with them.<br />
Google is the perfect buyer, since they&#8217;re also biased and dishonest about which news sources they quote in Google News.<br />
Doubt it? go here and have a look:<br />
<a href="http://michellemalkin.com/" rel="nofollow">http://michellemalkin.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Zippy Gonzales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zippy Gonzales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two things preclude a Kiwi-type YouTube innovation. Crappy bandwidth and exorbitant domestic server space prices. It would be really good, for example, to be able to say to Google:

&quot;Hey, you want less government intrusion into your business? Why not move your operations to NZ? Bring your Head Office and everything. We have no Department of Homeland Security to hassle you for search data.&quot;

But there&#039;s no way that could happen, because we just don&#039;t have the capacity to deal with that sort of scale. Can you see 200 terabytes of data working through NZ&#039;s internet plumbing daily?

There is a possibility that someone in NZ thought of the YouTube idea first, but lacked the resources to give it a blat. NZ is left with rare examples of low-bandwidth goldmines such as TradeMe to work with. Or Ferrit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things preclude a Kiwi-type YouTube innovation. Crappy bandwidth and exorbitant domestic server space prices. It would be really good, for example, to be able to say to Google:</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey, you want less government intrusion into your business? Why not move your operations to NZ? Bring your Head Office and everything. We have no Department of Homeland Security to hassle you for search data.&#8221;</p>
<p>But there&#8217;s no way that could happen, because we just don&#8217;t have the capacity to deal with that sort of scale. Can you see 200 terabytes of data working through NZ&#8217;s internet plumbing daily?</p>
<p>There is a possibility that someone in NZ thought of the YouTube idea first, but lacked the resources to give it a blat. NZ is left with rare examples of low-bandwidth goldmines such as TradeMe to work with. Or Ferrit.</p>
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		<title>By: err..</title>
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		<dc:creator>err..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 09:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t be the only person who liked Google Video better.  Between the lighter interface (=less wait time when bandwidth is already stressed by having other videos buffering) and the ability to download videos in formats other than .flc (and with the audio properly in sync with the video) I thought it was clearly superior.  YouTube just has more teenage girls dancing around their bedrooms.

Oh yeah, this is DPF&#039;s blog... sorry I spoke!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t be the only person who liked Google Video better.  Between the lighter interface (=less wait time when bandwidth is already stressed by having other videos buffering) and the ability to download videos in formats other than .flc (and with the audio properly in sync with the video) I thought it was clearly superior.  YouTube just has more teenage girls dancing around their bedrooms.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, this is DPF&#8217;s blog&#8230; sorry I spoke!</p>
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		<title>By: ChickenLittle</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChickenLittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 08:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How long before Petabyte enters every day language?

Or Datafarm?

Quote of the day on this -

&#039;Google,my favourite near monopoly&#039;

Its gotta be a good thing. Right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long before Petabyte enters every day language?</p>
<p>Or Datafarm?</p>
<p>Quote of the day on this -</p>
<p>&#8216;Google,my favourite near monopoly&#8217;</p>
<p>Its gotta be a good thing. Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Kimble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Touche.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Touche.</p>
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		<title>By: Polemic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polemic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 07:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&amp;va=irony&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thank you, Kimble&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&#038;va=irony" rel="nofollow">Thank you, Kimble</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kimble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Polemic, the company wasnt bought for its current profit stream, very few companies are. Youtube fits nicely into Googles business plan. They had a division that didnt work, so they shut it down and bought a company that did.

42 Below also wasnt purchased based on its current income stream. That company was formed to do exactly what it did, build a brand. And the brand it built is top shelf. The brand is an intangible asset, but can often be worth more than the rest of the company.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polemic, the company wasnt bought for its current profit stream, very few companies are. Youtube fits nicely into Googles business plan. They had a division that didnt work, so they shut it down and bought a company that did.</p>
<p>42 Below also wasnt purchased based on its current income stream. That company was formed to do exactly what it did, build a brand. And the brand it built is top shelf. The brand is an intangible asset, but can often be worth more than the rest of the company.</p>
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		<title>By: rightline</title>
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		<dc:creator>rightline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No wonder my broadband speed is down to 90KB/s at 6PM]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder my broadband speed is down to 90KB/s at 6PM</p>
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		<title>By: Polemic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polemic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 06:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, although it is yet to turn a profit.

Bit like 42 Below too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, although it is yet to turn a profit.</p>
<p>Bit like 42 Below too.</p>
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