Reoffending Rates
October 30th, 2006 at 8:44 am by David FarrarIt is inevitable some prisoners will re-offend after they are released, as they are sentenced to finite terms.
However it is of huge concern that released prisoners who had been given a life sentence or preventative detention are re-offending because they have no right of release. They are granted it by a parole board.
The one third of preventative detention releases re-offending is almost inexcusable. They have been deemed so dangerous that they should never ever be released unless they are clearly no longer a danger to the community. The Parole Board is obviously giving the benefit of the doubt in cases where they are not entitled to. With preventative detention, if there is doubt, they should stay in jail.
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October 30th, 2006 at 10:15 am
Funny, I thought Preventive Detention was effectively a true life sentence – at least until you were in your dotage.
I guess I was fooled. Shame on me.
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 10:36 am
Agree totally Dave. Take a look at the web site of the Sensible Sentencing Trust where they list the members of the Parole Board. From the list of Judges through to lowliest ex social worker it is hard to find anyone without vested interests in the entire “Offender recycling” industry. Without wishing to demean the experience of these no doubt hard working people I find it difficult to see who independently represents the victims and future victims of these violent criminals? No-one. Thanks again Helen.
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 11:34 am
Right on thehawk. The justice system is the single biggest closed shop feeding trough in this and most countries and will be until, we as a nation, can get their collective snouts out of it.
Who gets the top, highly paid (by the government) lawyers?
Who gets compensation? its not victims and I have documentation to prove it but as you say
- go the sensible sentencing trust
- do something – sign up and participate
- spread the word
their target is half a million members by the next election
- this should be election issue no 1,2,3
- 92% of NZers voted for harder punishment for violent offenders at the referendum – unheard of concensus
- in 1961 the people of NZ entered a social contract to replace the death penalty with life imprisonment. That social contract has been broken ever since (guess who by?)
Anybody bother to read the wet woolly wank in mme “directorates” speech – that really makes the “hard workers of this country who support you” feel safe. Yeah thanks a lot!
Hey anyone know if where going to crack the ton this year – last count 51 murders and rising fast
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 1:34 pm
It is “preventive” not “preventative” (the latter spelling and pronunciation is a common myth).
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 2:01 pm
It is high time the authority to release prisoners before their sentence has been completed, is taken out of the Judiciaries’ hands. The victim/s or their family should be given a veto vote before any release. Quite simply, if the victim doesn’t agree with an early release, the offender serves his/her FULL term as passed down by the court. Simple.
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 3:38 pm
There are some people who society should be protected against and should never really be released, even if the victim didnt veto it.
Hey I was hoping there might be more activity from Lawyers, judges and others in that feeding trough on this blog because have I got a money making scam for you guys.
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 3:58 pm
One third re-offending means one third caught re-offending. The more experienced an offender gets the more he becomes aware of his rights and the harder he is to catch.
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 5:04 pm
Lock the animals up and throw away the key.
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 5:55 pm
Hang the blighters! , i say, thatd put a real message out to all would be crims.
We have at present a whole generation of criminals some as young as 12yrs old, and they want to go to prison to be the same as their BROs ,yep its the hip thing to do,,why not murder someone or steal a few cars ,bash some-one, all youll get is a couple of years in a holiday camp smoking dope with yer cuzzies.
Damn beanies,baggies, and red hoodies,usa gang culture=criminals,,rap, hiphop, BAN IT ALL!!
Hang the sods, and itll all stop!! aint that the truth.
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 7:05 pm
The Brits have started looking at “persistent offenders” ie those with more than 6 convictions per year. And surprisingly found only half to be in prison. These are the people causing most of the crime..
As regards the ‘preventive detention’ slogan which doesnt mean what it says, just like ‘life imprisonment’ never meant that anyway.
Vote:Just wait for those with very long sentences like 18 plus years before being eligible for parole, come about 12 years whats the bet they are out and about , but not actually on parole of course. The final result is the same.
October 30th, 2006 at 7:28 pm
People with six major convictions a year are not persistent offenders, they’re sociopaths from which any civilised societal animal from about the termite up would protect itself against.
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 7:30 pm
Uh, Don? Medication?
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 8:12 pm
The justice elite feel virtuous in putting that risk on on statistically predictable fresh victims. Their need to feel compassion for the scum they release outweighs any feeling for the innocents who will inevitably pay the price for that compassion. Contrast that with the savage intolerance that awaits the employer who fails to take “all practicable steps (note it does not say all reasonable steps) to prevent harm to an employee” even one determined not to use safety equipment provided.
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 8:12 pm
The justice elite feel virtuous in putting that risk on on statistically predictable fresh victims. Their need to feel compassion for the scum they release outweighs any feeling for the innocents who will inevitably pay the price for that compassion. Contrast that with the savage intolerance that awaits the employer who fails to take “all practicable steps (note it does not say all reasonable steps) to prevent harm to an employee” even one determined not to use safety equipment provided.
Vote:October 30th, 2006 at 11:32 pm
“Their need to feel compassion for the scum they release…”
How come intelligent people have so lost their way?
Vote:October 31st, 2006 at 8:06 am
“How come intelligent people have so lost their way?”
Because they are not affected. Most people change their tune when the reality of crime hits them hard. I never gave it much thought until I got assaulted walking home from work one night by three thugs who were 14 and 15 years old. They attacked me with weapons (a screw driver and a small hand axe) and left me with a grazed head, severe concussion that had me off work for two weeks and smashed glasses. That it wasn’t worse or even fatal was because somehow I managed to avoid direct blows and kept that screwdriver from being thrust into my stomach and chest. They got some pissy non-custodial sentence because they were “young” and it was “out of character”. They were Mongrel Mob gang associate wannabees and despite having a restitution order to pay the cost of my glasses I got a single cheque from the Courts dept for $17.53. The kids were out of on the streets a few days later and threatening me every time they saw me. Let that happen to a few parole baord members and they would also throw the key away.
If I had a handgun I would have shot the three little bastards dead.
Vote:October 31st, 2006 at 9:55 am
These people are not intelligent enough to see that Brian is TOTALLY correct, but their masters are.
The judicial elite use these tossers because it serves their purpose of maintaining their privileged snouts at the head of the feeding trough. It also maintains high employment in the justice/compensation industry ensuring their snouts are in there for the long haul. That’s why the legal elite make up a large portion of our political aristocracy. Look around and see.
The legal elite then get the bonus of being able to laugh at as all – take “concurrent sentencing” for example – did that start as a joke in the locker room of the persons club or what!
Hey any legals listening? I’ve got a beauty for you. You know how middle NZ is waking up to your scam? Well you could lead the charge in supporting higher sentences and become heroes. You change the law to have 30 year sentences for violent offending. Then when you come to enforce it you sentence the criminal to 10,000 one day sentences to be served concurrently!
I’ve go an even better money making scam for you if you want to hear it.
Vote:October 31st, 2006 at 11:44 am
Don said,
Hang the blighters! , i say, thatd put a real message out to all would be crims.
We have at present a whole generation of criminals some as young as 12yrs old, and they want to go to prison to be the same as their BROs ,yep its the hip thing to do,,why not murder someone or steal a few cars ,bash some-one, all youll get is a couple of years in a holiday camp smoking dope with yer cuzzies.
Damn beanies,baggies, and red hoodies,usa gang culture=criminals,,rap, hiphop, BAN IT ALL!!
Hang the sods, and itll all stop!! aint that the truth.
Vote:Sounds like “ole catmeat” is with us.