Comments on: The Unity Ticket

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By: libertyscott

libertyscott — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 12:30:07 +0000

Owen, you make a fair point. MED is far more filled with left leaning interventionists, although the Finance portfolio is worth far far more than any others. It would easy enough for Treasury to take control of economic policy again. Remember, just because Anderton is Minister of Economic Development has meant little in energy, communications and trade policy – though it does not mean that Brash couldn’t have all of those.

Of course the Economic Development portfolio should go – it is a Labour/Alliance creation which should be replaced by Commerce once more.

By: Porcupine

Porcupine — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 06:51:09 +0000

Oh Owen would they be the same good policy advisers who are busy down in Wellington right know talking to our (workers ha ha) government and big business how to screw us sensless with carbon taxes?

From the Royal Society of NZ news watch:

Business lobby seeks carbon price, ban on inefficient vehicles
Ministers, business executives discuss possible carbon trading regimes
at the Energy Future Forum

Oh really and we’re supposed to trust these people with our future!

No thanks.

By: hisself

hisself — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 04:11:54 +0000

Culma – your little bird has as much credibility as the National Party…….

By: Owen McShane

Owen McShane — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 03:19:11 +0000

Actually, while we have good policy advisers in Treasury it is a waste to have Don Brash locked up with the nuts and bolts of the Finance portfolio.
As an economist he knows what makes an economy tick and knows much about the efficient use of assets. Hence I would prefer him to be shadow Minister of Economic Development where (like Jim Anderton) he could shape the portfolio to his own image and also make that Ministry responsible for the RMA, and he could have either key or associate responsibilities in SOEs, Crown Land, and Energy.
This would give him more room to make a difference than in Finance assuming that National continues to advocate lower spending and taxes.

By: Owen McShane

Owen McShane — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 03:12:40 +0000

Actually, while we have good policy advisers in Treasury it is a waste to have Don Brash locked up with the nuts and bolts of the Finance portfolio.
As an economist he knows what makes an economy tick and knows much about the efficient use of assets. Hence I would prefer him to be shadow Minister of Economic Development where (like Jim Anderton) he could shape the portfolio to his own image and also make that Ministry responsible for the RMA, and have either key or associate responsibilities in SOEs, Crown Land, and Energy.
This would give him more room to make a difference that Finance assuming that National continues to advocate lower spending and taxes.

By: battler

battler — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:57:26 +0000

Bring back Ruth Richardson and Jenny Shipley to finish the job they started under Bolger.

By: libertyscott

libertyscott — Mon, 27 Nov 2006 00:06:02 +0000

Brash should be finance. English was Minister of Finance before, but given that Bill Birch was Treasurer (this was after the NZ First coalition breakdown), this is not significant and let’s face it, Brash knows more about this than all other MPs put together.

The Nats have stabbed in the back the man who rescued them from oblivion and will now promote the man who led them to the worst result in 60 years. English has been useful in education – he should stick with it.

I suspect the Nats will now adopt the UK Tory strategy – sell out everything and simply look like a less sleazy/lie filled version of the government.

By: James

James — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 23:04:49 +0000

National needs to bring back Georgina! Key has a clean slate with the general public, and he needs to immediately make a strong statement distancing the new leadership from previous ‘Maori-bashing’ comments. These comments (however well intended they were), were IMHO, one of the big reasons that women turned away from voting National.”

Meaning that women must pig ignorant twats who can’t think….God Jen what a load of shit.Plenty of women i know as well as heard on radio etc agrreed wholeheartly with Brash and his anti racist comments.Apartheid is a Labour policy….not Nationals.

By: culma

culma — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:50:52 +0000

Little bird has just told me the waterfront stadium is a go, irrelevant of what comes out of this mornings caucus meeting!

Is this any surprise?

By: Jen Campbell

Jen Campbell — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:49:17 +0000

By: Peter S

Peter S — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:29:35 +0000

gd,

just another comment, if my wife’s opinion is anything to go by (she is very level headed, and has almost no interest in politics), after 3 terms of Clark, there is a strong feeling that another woman leader is the LAST thing they want.

By: Peter S

Peter S — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:25:10 +0000

gd,

I’m not convinced you are right about the Key/English combination.

English did very well under Bolger & Shipley, looked a rising star, right up until he took over from Shipley. Then he came accross as pretty hopeless as a leader.

After he was ousted by Brash, English suddenly started performing well again. He has been a real thorn in Labour’s side, has been convincing in the House and on TV.

I don’t think he is Leader material. He is a very good senior party MP, and potentially a very good deputy leader. A leader does not always make a good deputy, and a deputy does not always make a good leader- the skills & temperement needed for each position are different.

Only time will tell, but, given the fact that English performs best when he is not leader, the Key/English combination may work, and if it does, it is likely to work very well.

By: culma

culma — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:17:12 +0000

Frankly for an inexperienced politician, Key’s at the last election dealt with both Clark and the snide little shit from Hawks Bay with relative ease, I don’t see he will need to much media coaching from here.
In Bill Englishes case, he is a very good Lieutenant, and this is what a good captain needs!

By: gd

gd — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 22:14:16 +0000

Im with porcupine. I couldnt believe it when I heard English being touted Its bad enough that the Socialists will label Key as inexperienced but now they have the double Yesterdays man A dumped failed has been leader.Clark and Cullen will be licking their lips waiting to attack in the House. The Nats need a wimmin to get the female vote Thats where they have lost out in the past 3 elections.A Key Rich ticket would give them a fighting chance come 2008.Now they will struggle.

By: Porcupine

Porcupine — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:53:12 +0000

Porcy’s prediction

National, put your policy on one side of an A4 sheet, appeal to the middle, and you’ll get power.

Keep your prommises to the middle kiwi.

If not we’ll have 20 years of one term governments just like Auckland has had 20 years of one-term lying mayors!

By: hayman

hayman — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:38:21 +0000

So Bill English has ‘blackmailed’ himself into number 2 in return for not contesting the leader vote. How real is this ?. he is obviously angling for the top job again. At least gerry wasnt leadership material in the public eye but certainly made a good Dean of the 3rd form – meaning the new MPs.

So National now has an untested new leader, a old leader who resigned under a cloud, a dumped leader whos wants a comeback and half the caucus who have only been there for 12 months.
Tim Barclay is wildly enthusiastic about this lot taking government in the next 3 months.
It will all fall apart .. again.. before the next election

By: Porcupine

Porcupine — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:03:43 +0000

Exactly James. lets let the “polls” decide.

Will you be riding high like after Orewa, or will you languish 1-2% ahead of labour looking for a “coalition partner” like a pck of pussies?

Who votes labour – highly paid academics and those fed intravenously by the government.

Who votes National low to middle income people who pay for all this crap – they’re as sick as hell of cronyism.

By: James

James — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:57:13 +0000

It’s the liberals and conservatives that have more middle ground appeal, not the fringe.”

But all change comes from the ideas promoted by the fringe, not the long dead road kill in the “centre” (stagnant)

Theres an old saying…”cut out the middle man”.If you want to change things then the middle is the wrong place to be.

Nationals revival in the last couple of years is due to taking ACT’s policies and making them their own…and people responded positivly!See the polls.More people voted for tax cuts than against at the last election. The mood in this country is right for a harder line on sepratist Maori rascist bullshit, welfare dependancy and the PC invasion into more and more areas of our lives.

Revelution is brewing…does National/ACT have the nerve to stick to principle and ride that baby into office in 08?

By: Porcupine

Porcupine — Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:50:59 +0000

We are the centre ground!

Lets face it we’re all workers – if you want power you need to appeal to us – median income and up a bit $30-90K workers who cant stand the shambles the country is in form succesive L and N govts..

If your on $300K and you want national in to give you and extra 10K in your pocket and hou salve your conscience by letting people get more that the median income by doing nothing – then your a Remuera socialist and you can FO to another party.