Kevin Rudd on Socialism
December 14th, 2006 at 3:31 pm by David FarrarCan only approve of the views of the new leader of the Australian Labor Party:
“I am not a socialist. I have never been a socialist and I never will be a socialist.”
rejecting socialism as an “arcane, 19th-century” doctrine
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December 14th, 2006 at 4:10 pm
Be very afraid John Howard. A change is in the air and a christian conservative Labor leader who is true to the party’s social justice roots is exactly a prescription for Howard’s demise.
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 4:18 pm
Tell that to the buggers, his Labour counterparts on this side of the Tasman.
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 5:11 pm
Socialism is just not up to it according to Rudd….someone tell Hulun.
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 5:28 pm
Do they have Tui billboards in Australia?
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 5:38 pm
Rudd’s own party has a formal faction called the Socialist Left which espouses stridently socialist policies. Most of it’s MPs backed Rudd.
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 6:21 pm
Rudd is a socialist. In one of his first speeches he advocated more government spending on health and education. What else but a socialist is so fucking backward and so fucking thick and so fucking unaware of reality??
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 6:32 pm
Just like a Muslim who says that they are not extremists, but NEVER criticisms extremism.
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 6:38 pm
Having met ALP president Warren Mundine in Aussie at the Evil Right Wing Centre for Independent Studies liberty and society conference earlier than this year… I have to say – Aussie labour is a lot different to NZ Labour.
Someone like Mundine would fit in ACT a lot more than in NZ labour.
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 6:42 pm
Ok, maybe it’s time to become 8th State. That way, there are no socialists on the ballot and Hulun runs a State govt where little harm can be done.
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 6:50 pm
“Socialism” is a bogey word used far too often to mean anything the writer doesn’t like.
I worry far more about the use of “christian conservative” as an accolade.
Christians are free to believe what they will, to imagine they want to worship people about whom nothing but rumor is known, people whose existence is seriously questionable and to conduct their lives according to the diktat of the Great Vessel if that is what pleases them.
They are equally free to ill-treat their children, and even cut of bits of them, in the name of their ‘faith’, another bogey-word meaning ‘willing suspension of disbelief’.
But they are not free to impose any of their faith-based morality and behavior on me, and I object very strongly to the elevation of their willingness to believe the unbelievable as if it were a quality to be admired, or a qualification to be out in charge of anything more important than a vicarage tea-party.
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 7:36 pm
“a christian conservative Labor leader who is true to the party’s social justice roots is exactly a prescription for AUSTRALIA’s demise.”
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 7:47 pm
Jezuz H Christ on a bike, is there anything more laughable than a Socialist (like Phillip) lecturing Christians on “imposing their faith based morality and behaviour on me”.. That’s exactly what socialism does to its non believers Phillip you ass. is there anything more blind than an indoctrinated socialist and his/her idiotic beleif in attaining Nirvana thru government decree?????
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 7:54 pm
Is there anything more idiotic than Redbaiter. We will see Porcupine. I suspect come election time in Oz yours will be a minority opinion.
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 7:57 pm
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/rudd_tells_half_the_truth/
Heh
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 9:03 pm
So why did Rudd appoint a hard-leftie as Labor’s Industrial Relations shadow minister?
The Melbourne Age (aka Pravda) must be fuming at Rudd’s claim though.
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 10:16 pm
Rudd will be hard to beat no doubt about that. But John Howard will have fun pointing all the things Rudd believes in, are socialism.
Vote:December 14th, 2006 at 10:35 pm
Alas, in NZ we have John Key running around basically denying he’s a conservative. If Rudd is trying to offer Howard’s policies without Howard, Key is offering Labour’s policies without Clark.
Vote:December 15th, 2006 at 5:27 am
am not a socialist. I have never been a socialist and I never will be a socialist.
Rudd’s just a liar three times over!
Rudd will be hard to beat no doubt about that.
No – Rudd will make absolutely no impression whatsoever on Howard.
You just don’t get it.
Rudd is just another in a long line of pathetic Labour leaders for a bunch of whinging aussies who are to stupid to realise that the only opposition in Aus in the last 20 years has only ever been offered by One Nation.
Vote:December 15th, 2006 at 10:05 am
Of course Kevy is a socialist….
The interesting thing is that he believes he has to claim he isn’t a socialist to get elected.
Sensible Aussies won’t accept unions dictating national policy anymore.
Vote:December 15th, 2006 at 12:33 pm
He was taken out of context.
“KEVIN Rudd has junked a pledge to remove the word socialism from the Labor Party’s constitution just a day after denouncing it as an “arcane, 19th-century” doctrine.
Vote:……Mr Rudd has previously declared the ALP’s socialist dogma of controlling “production, distribution and exchange” had nostalgia value only and was “entirely unmemorable”.
When asked yesterday whether he would now take action, the Labor leader changed tack and said he had no plans to pursue the reforms at next year’s ALP national conference.” The Australian
December 15th, 2006 at 1:27 pm
All NZ pollies are Socialists just of varying degrees.Their only mission in life is to interfer in good peoples lives and try and control them whilst allowing the arseholes to get away with everything up to and including murder.They protect the bad and punish the good.All I want them to do is delver the mail defend the shores and get the hell out of my life. A politican and bureacrat free world would be better happier and more prosperous place
Vote:December 15th, 2006 at 1:40 pm
Hhe must mean State ownership, since socialism is everywhere.
Your insurance company is socialism.
Your local city council
The farmer cooperatives like Fonterra, Zespri etc.
The Reserve Bank.
Local Loop Unbundling is socialism.
naturally private capitalism fails everday , just look at the comapanies being wound up, or biggies like Air new Zealand ( saved by state socialism) , or the Wharehouse and Telecom losing billions on investments in Australia.
Vote:Feltex carpets is the new form of capitalism where private equity dumps failed companies on the stock market. expect this to increase in the next 5 years.
December 15th, 2006 at 3:42 pm
Primary support for the ALP leapt 9% in the week following Kevin Rudd’s elevation to the Labor leadership, according to the latest Morgan Poll.
Labor’s primary support has risen to 50% (up 12.4% since the 2004 election), while primary support for the Coalition dropped 7% to 34.5% (down 11.9% from 2004).
With preferences distributed as they were at the 2004 election, Labor leads the two-party preferred vote 59 to 41%.
Vote:December 15th, 2006 at 6:49 pm
The kiddie left…
Vote:Follow the money Ill, for a real opinion.
Best you’ll get Lib/Lab is even money.
Try putting serious dollars on Howard at evens 2 months from an election…
No takers…I wonder why…
December 15th, 2006 at 10:10 pm
There is no Capitalism in NZ free from Socialist interference….therefore by definition it ain’t Capitalism….if it ain’t “free market” then it simply “ain’t” full stop…
Vote:December 16th, 2006 at 11:11 am
naturally private capitalism fails everday , just look at the comapanies being wound up, or biggies like Air new Zealand ( saved by state socialism) , or the Wharehouse and Telecom losing billions on investments in Australia.”
Hayman fails to understand that “failure” is an inseperable part of the free market (ie: free people trading with each other).Indeed without failure the driving force to prosper and create would diminish.
Free market Capitalism works on the same principles as you see in nature…not suprising as Free market Capitalism is natural to man when left alone to engage in it.
When a business,in a free market, stalls and go’s under due to failing to sustain itself with enough custom to keep it profitable you are seeing the same principle in action as when a tree dies in the forest and its broken down so that its resources are used by fresh new growth starting up….no one would say in the latter case that nature had “failed”,after all thats nature at work as it should be,……so why say it in the former case? The only excuse is economic illiteracy.
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