Meeting Margaret Thatcher

December 4th, 2006 at 9:22 am by David Farrar

Well it’s no surprise that the highlight of the two weeks in London was meeting Margaret Thatcher (or Baroness Thatcher more formally).

We were extremely privileged to have her attend. On medical advice she rarely does functions since 2002, but she has always had a soft spot for the IYDU, of which she is incidentally the Patron.

The reception was held in a private apartment next to the Thames. But that under-states it. The apartment takes up the entire second to top floor of one of the largest buildings and you get the most magnificent view up and down the Thames from all four sides of the apartment.

It’s hard to put into words what meeting Margaret Thatcher is to someone like me who started to follow politics just as she became UK Prime Minister. She shows how one person can make a difference. Her impact was huge on both the UK and the world.

When I was at school, most of the population believed that a global nuclear war against the USSR was probable in the next couple of decades. Movies were done showing this. The doomsday clock was updated regularly (I doubt anyone has checked it for the last ten years). If you’re on the centre-right like me, you thank Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan for winning the cold war and not surrendering with unilateral disarment as many wanted. And even my American friends concede Mrs Thatcher was the dominant one of the pair.

Now if you think those of us from the Anglo-sphere were keen to meet Lady Thatcher, well that is nothing compared to the huge number of Eastern Europeans in attendance. They quite literally see her as the person who did more to secure their freedom than any other person.

With so many in the room, obviously one didn’t get much time with her, but I did mention how I had worked for NZ’s 1st female Prime Minister (of whom she approved), and of course thanked her. She posed of course for a group photo with Kiwis and Aussies.

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I’ll blog more photos of the meeting and functions later. Plane back home about to leave!

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61 Responses to “Meeting Margaret Thatcher”

  1. Graeme Edgeler () says:

    I remember the first time I met Jim Bolger…

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  2. milksnatcher () says:

    Well, at least the good Baroness makes you young freedom fighters *look* young for a change.

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  3. thehawk () says:

    Wonderful woman! Who says women shouldn’t be in politics? Single handedly saving the free world and, of course, in a separate skirmish the Falklands. Breaking the iron grip of communist trade unions and bringing even the British Labour Party right into the centre of politics. If only the grey suits had stuck with her Labour would have struggled there.

    Who thinks the UK would have followed/allowed
    the US to make the Iraq cock-up if she was in charge? Not a chance. Bush would have been given a severe spanking and sent back to his kennel.

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  4. Sonic () says:

    I make a point never to “hate” people just because of their political views.

    Thatch is the person who stretches that commitment the most.

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  5. James () says:

    As Sonic hates freedom and the very idea of Eastern Europeans having liberty and choice his comments are no suprise….;-)

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  6. crasster () says:

    “Who thinks the UK would have followed/allowed the US to make the Iraq cock-up if she was in charge?”

    Umm…she sent an under-equipped flotilla down to the bottom of the World to beat up the Argentines over some tiny islands with an equally tiny population (oh, and a shit load of oil underneath them). Yeah, Thatcher was the very model of military conservatism?! Sorry, Hawk, your point is way of the mark. The fact that the Brits managed to pull of the Falklands was more about Argentine incompetence than it was about a British victory. So, quite easily Thatcher could have been committing her troops to a very dodgy military situation. Of course, the end-game was never in doubt – when you consider nuclear-armed submarines prowling off-the-coast of Buenos Aires. But the point is, she was not shy of military advernturing. What about Grenada? Thatcher “allowed” Reagan to invade a small, Commonwealth country. You can Lionise Thatcher all you want…but I do not buy the argument that she wouldn’t be in with Bush – up to the hilt.

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  7. Sonic () says:

    “As Sonic hates freedom”

    And apple pie as well, don’t forget about that!

    Idiot.

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  8. mikeybill () says:

    sonic – you also burn the flag, spit on old soldiers and kill babies don’t you?

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  9. Andrew W () says:

    “I make a point never to “hate” people just because of their political views.

    Thatch is the person who stretches that commitment the most.”

    It’s actually a fairly inocuous statement, many political people are the subject of “hate” few “just because of their political views.”

    Usually it’s because of their actions.

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  10. Graeme Edgeler () says:

    The Doomsday Clock was last updated in 2002 (http://www.thebulletin.org/press_center/20061011.htm) when the US withdrew from the ABM treaty (the previous was 1998 with India/Pakistan issues).

    They considered updating it following the North Korean nuclear test earlier this year, but are waiting to see world reaction.

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  11. Freud () says:

    The great thing about Thatcher is that she can exercise both your Mother and Father complexes with a bit of Masochism in between.

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  12. Michael (The Right Wing One) () says:

    I am so jealous. She is one of my heroes.

    Her meeting with Lech Walesa when he was under house arrest and giving moral support to Solidarity was probably the nail in the coffin of Communism in Poland.

    Shortly afterward the Commies gave in and held free elections, thinking they would keep a large majority. Solidarity won 99 of 100 seats, the Russians did nothing and before long democratic revolutions swept through East Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Romania …

    The odd thing is Thatcher is hated in Britain and admired in Poland, Walesa is hated in Poland (his market reforms hurt badly at first) and admired in Britain. Proves a prophet is without honour in their own land.

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  13. tim barclay () says:

    History is treating Margaret Thatcher well. It is a shame she went to pieces when Willie (“everyone needs a Willie”) Whitelaw left the Government. Her management of her collegues went downhill after that. She became quite reckless with relationships with some important people especially Nigel Lawson and Sir Geoffrey Howe – who was later to destroy her. Even in her sunset years she would have made a better Prime Minister than the hapless John Major. It reinforces my theory that a sitting Prime Minister should NOT be removed except in the most exceptional circumstances. Mere unpopularity is not a sufficient reason.

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  14. Sonic () says:

    I think you may find the real reason she got the bullet from her own side was this.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/march/31/newsid_2530000/2530763.stm

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  15. milksnatcher () says:

    “The odd thing is Thatcher is hated in Britain and admired in Poland”

    Nothing odd about it at all. As has been pointed out she a high profile personality who was seen to be standing up to Soviet dictators. This is absolutely to her credit. Shame her record WRT South Africa was not similarly staunch, but then her family did have significant business interests there.

    Those of us who actually had to live under her divisive and, yes, corrosive, regime had an entirely different perspective. The Tories have *still* not recovered their position in Scotland and many parts of England and Wales. You can trace the current clamour for Scottish independence to her time in office.

    For the record, like most UK Governments, including the current one, she never won an absolute majority of votes. Goerge W Bush is probably still more popular than she ever was.

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  16. woppo () says:

    No doubt the assembled supplicants promised the barmy Baroness that they’d do all in their power to deny those dreadful IRA types the oxygen of publicity, and tut-tutted sympathetically when she warned that western civilisation would fall if that dreadful Mandela chappie was ever allowed out. Good on you all for keeping a collective straight face when she held forth on what an absolutely awful job that silly Mr. Major was doing as Prime Minister.

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  17. side show bob () says:

    Is Dennis still kicking?. The couple reminds me a lot of our own great Dear Leader and the hapless Peter.

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  18. Murray () says:

    Maybe if you lefties wish really hard you’ll get to meet your hero to.

    Not sure what Stalin will think of you but it’s a win win for everyone else.

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  19. mr tome () says:

    Bloody IRA…….Missed!

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  20. Cadmus () says:

    DPF, I hope you realise the NZ National Party was anti Thatcher, under Rob Muldoon.

    Now as for Ronnie Raygun. Ronnie or the “Gipper” was no friend of the hard working American. Ronnie liked also to use Military force sacking US Traffic controllers and bringing in Air Force staff to man the towers, when the staff striked over rosters & compulsory overtime.
    Then you would not have read about what Ronnies solution to the Thatcher govt was during the UK miners strike. Ronnie told Thatcher to bring in the Army tanks and fire tear gas and rubber bullets at the strikers, nice guy???

    Then of course the “Gipper” was one for pulling a gun when he found anyone around at the house when Nancy was alone. From what I remember “Ole Blue” Frank Sinatra was looking down the barrel of the “Gippers” .38 one afternoon

    DPF also said,

    “If you’re on the centre-right like me, you thank Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan for winning the cold war and not surrendering with unilateral disarment as many wanted. And even my American friends concede Mrs Thatcher was the dominant one of the pair.”

    True, but at least NZ had the brains to keep away from the pair.

    Of course Brash/Hide would be clones, but thank goodness we saw through them.

    PS I wonder what “Porcupine” would say if his boy heading for Iraq under Brash/Hide????

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  21. Cadmus () says:

    DPF, I hope you realise the NZ National Party was anti Thatcher, under Rob Muldoon.

    Now as for Ronnie Raygun. Ronnie or the “Gipper” was no friend of the hard working American. Ronnie liked also to use Military force sacking US Traffic controllers and bringing in Air Force staff to man the towers, when the staff striked over rosters & compulsory overtime.
    Then you would not have read about what Ronnies solution to the Thatcher govt was during the UK miners strike. Ronnie told Thatcher to bring in the Army tanks and fire tear gas and rubber bullets at the strikers, nice guy???

    Then of course the “Gipper” was one for pulling a gun when he found anyone around at the house when Nancy was alone. From what I remember “Ole Blue” Frank Sinatra was looking down the barrel of the “Gippers” .38 one afternoon

    DPF also said,

    “If you’re on the centre-right like me, you thank Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan for winning the cold war and not surrendering with unilateral disarment as many wanted. And even my American friends concede Mrs Thatcher was the dominant one of the pair.”

    True, but at least NZ had the brains to keep away from the pair.

    Of course Brash/Hide would be clones, but thank goodness we saw through them.

    PS I wonder what “Porcupine” would say if his boy heading for Iraq under Brash/Hide????

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  22. Rob Good () says:

    Brilliant, you and Mr Frith look to be enjoying the moment… Where’d you get that tie?

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  23. Ben Wilson () says:

    Was her wardrobe and hairstyling inspired by Francis Ford Coppola’s Dracula? Or the other way around? Did she glide along without appearing to move her feet? I can’t see any of your reflections in that window, either!

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  24. James Gribble () says:

    “The odd thing is Thatcher is hated in Britain and admired in Poland”

    blah not true, shes very popular in Great Britain. Its just she is a polarizing figure, as the left hate her deeply (just like Reagan).

    I suggest people read Statecraft: Strategies for a Changing World, it shows just how great she IS. I’d take her over any of the conservative politicians that are around these days. Unlike Cameron or Key here, she really appreciates liberty.

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  25. NJL () says:

    Jealous.

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  26. Porcupine () says:

    Don’t forget who freed the slaves and normalised relations with china – Republicans.

    Oh and David – you should always give Gorbachev some credit also – he was a statesman – unfortunately Russia got left to the political wolves when he didn’t become first president. good on MCD ads too.

    Its amazing that you PCs still try to perpetuate this myth of right bad, left good. Its so old hat. I thought you would be on my side saying individuals are individuals and judge them on their merits with the number of skeletons in the centre left closet. Oh wait did I just answer my own question?

    Anyway, seems I have a bit of spanking of my own to do eh?

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  27. Porcupine () says:

    “PS I wonder what “Porcupine” would say if his boy heading for Iraq under Brash/Hide????”

    Cadmus,

    I wouldn’t have to worry about that – not when we have a limitless supply of yank parent’s sons and daughters to do our dirty work for us. If it did come to that I’d do what any patriotic kiwi would do – blame an American! In that case I’d spend the rest of my life trying to get back at Bush senior for not taking out the little fascist when he had a mandate to do it, of course.

    But when someone next threatens our country I will probably cry like my grandmother did when my uncle was taken prisoner (assumed dead) by the Germans, and howl like she did when my father was packed off to the Islands to come back with malaria. I would take care of them when they came home with shell shock like my wife’s grandfather did so he could grow up to marry a nice Maori lady and have three children who would one day be shafted out of their land inheritance by the government/brown table complex.

    One thing I wouldn’t do is appease the aggressors and form a collaborating government and hope they had mercy on us like they had mercy on the people of the Malay peninsula. I would try to stand up to them when they interned 5 year old girls in camps in Singapore so they still had nightmares about it 30 years later.

    But there is one f)^&(* thing I sure as hell wouldn’t do even if hell froze over – and that is spend the next 50 years ridiculing the memories of the American mother’s sons who came down here to save our very, very sorry arses. (some of whom I’ve met on my travels to the US and have shown me nothing but hospitality despite that fact that they saw their friends shot out of aircraft while my father was safely on the ground fixing their planes).

    But one thing I might consider doing is a little Lindbergh shuffle and try to convince the yanks that our sorry arses aren’t worth the bother this time. I’d tell them that NZers prefer to rely on the UN and hope they don’t change the name of “foreign invasion” to “merger” like they changed the name of “genocide” to “ethnic cleansing” so they could get out of having to actually do something.

    Any more questions?

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  28. dfr () says:

    So what’s the age limit for belonging to the International Young Democrat Union? DPF’s age plus 1?

    Looks like lots of fun, but I do feel at least a bit uncomfortable about the name. The organisation’s website says that it is a grouping of centre right political youth organisations, but co-opting the word ‘democrat’, as though it belongs exclusively to the right, is an interesting use of words. Of course, the People’s Democratic Republic of China also co-opts the word…. Does the IYDU see itself as belonging to the same sorts of groups as China?

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  29. Darren () says:

    Speaking as someone who grew up under the yolk of Thatcher’s Britain, I can recall what an exciting time the Thcatcher era was in politics and a liberating experience for us all.
    Britain was going to the dogs in the 1970s and it culminated in the infamous Winter of Discontent when mass strikes led to rubbish piling in the streets, the dead being unburied, etc, etc.
    But commentatators no longer speak of Britain’s relative econo9mic decline like they used to.
    I’ll cut short the history lesson and I accept some people despiose Margaret Thatcher- the lefties.
    The reason is that Margaret Thatcher changed the course of history, no longer would western countries drift towards socialism, they could return to capitalism.
    Margaret Thatcher also brough untold prosperity to much of Britain, even northern areas, like the part of Yorkshire that I am from.
    Her economic record is such that she changed the Labour Party too and it was thanks to Tony Blair changing UK Labour and John Major being an unmitigated disaster that the Labour governments of recent years haven’t done much to undermine her inheritence bar a bit of overspending and PC silliness.
    Thatcher’s union laws, etc, are pretty much as before, nationalisation v privatisation, little or no change.
    Indeed, Blair and Brown accept some role for market forces in state services which were oncer heretical assumptions in UK Labour at one stage (and in the Tory Party too pre-Thatcher).
    Anyway, well done David. I trust meeting Maggie was the highlight of your trip. I would love to shake hands with the old dear again too.

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  30. Fred () says:

    Yeah, mucho goodo Davo…
    Maggie was a temporary speed bump in the march to the beneficiary State over there.

    PS….You have no hope with the chic in black on your true left…bad arse body language for Dave.

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  31. Scorpio () says:

    Well, I must say the embalmers have done a fantastic job on the Baroness – the Iron Lady looks very stately in that photo. But what’s happened to her handbag?

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  32. DS () says:

    Ah yes, Thatcher.

    The Poll Tax. 3.6 million unemployed. Cups of tea with General Pinochet. The Poll Tax. Turning everywhere north of the Humber and west of the Severn into an economic ghetto. The Poll Tax. Using Scotland as the Guinea Pig for the Poll Tax, when it was clear from the 1987 election that the Scots hated her guts. Using the Falklands as part of the most cynical election strategy in modern history. Destroying Britain’s manufacturing base. Oh yes, and did I mention the Poll Tax?

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  33. Fred () says:

    Yeah…but she pissed on socialists for one bright shining moment.

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  34. Oliver () says:

    I note that no matter how much people whinge about Thatcher and the poll tax nobody has actually repealed it or come up with an alternative.

    It’s much the same in NZ. Helen and the Labour types like to bang on about the failed policies of the ’90s but have left many of the most central policies untouched (Reserve Bank independence, an end to subsidies, low tariffs) or only curtailed slightly (labour force flexibility).

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  35. Oliver () says:

    I note that no matter how much people whinge about Thatcher and the poll tax nobody has actually repealed it or come up with an alternative.

    It’s much the same in NZ. Helen and the Labour types like to bang on about the failed policies of the ’90s but have left many of the most central policies untouched (Reserve Bank independence, an end to subsidies, low tariffs) or only curtailed slightly (labour force flexibility).

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  36. Blair () says:

    Now there’s a woman with balls. What an honour to be able to meet her.

    Anyway, I have an announcement:

    Guess who’s back
    Back again
    Whiggy’s back
    Tell a friend
    Guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back, guess who’s back…

    Go on, pay Mulholland Drive a visit. You know you want to. ;o)

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  37. Ben Wilson () says:

    Scorpio, Baroness Thatchula’s handbag of genuine leftist skin was eaten recently owing to their being no more leftist blood to drink in all of British politics. You will note the sanguine smile as she ponders which of her party has the warmest, or should I say leftest, blood. DPF just managed to dogwhistle himself out of a fanging. I’m guessing the guy who foolishly took his tie off, and has the satisfied smile of a man who’s getting some, didn’t last the night.

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  38. phil u () says:

    ben wilson was asking about her hair..and her ‘funny walk’…

    both are a straight lift from lady penelope from the thunderbirds..

    the originator of the ‘helmet hair-do’..

    quite strange really to see monsters like her and kissinger the war-criminal being wheeled out again….(and her old mate pinochet finally facing war crimes charges..)

    and have we all forgotten..that towards the end of her political career she was generally considered to be not only barking..but howling at the moon..

    totally ‘disengaged’…

    her and ronnie rayguns together were(almost)a
    comedy routine…

    nodding away at each other..while each in their own little world..

    and yeah..!..i’d forgotten about her giving ronnie the go-ahead to go and invade/beat up a commonwealth country..grenada..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  39. Kisekiman () says:

    Thatcher applied the theories of von Hayek which rejuvenated the UK economy which was failing under Keynesian central planning and almost single handedly rolled back the frontiers of socialism. She deserves our unreserved thanks.
    We need someone like her now to liberate NZ from the stalinist mind control and bully boy tactics which seem to be the modus operandi of this Govt.

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  40. Porcupine () says:

    And our very own labour party followed like a lapdog five years behind, but that was to bring us into the 20th century not just the last half of it.

    But unfortunately, unlike the brits we’re so over regulated again now that our industries are start to feel the pinch.

    And unlike Margeret Thathcers “carrying half a public servant/dependant on your back” we’re carrying a whole one up our arse and those babies are jolly difficult to get rid of.

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  41. phil u () says:

    kisekimen..you’ve already got him..!

    ‘dancing-fool’ rodney is your man..!

    and now that john (the trojan horse) key has booted the righties out of national…

    you can all gather at the knee of rodney..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

    btw..what happened to that wannabe-soldier who is the other act mp..?

    did she get ‘lost on manouvers’..?

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  42. Porcupine () says:

    OMG

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  43. kisekiman () says:

    For sure, Phil. John Key’s positioning of National may bring about the resurgence of Act, while the Nats take huge swaths of disillusioned voters under their more moderate (right) wing… and the big loser is..?

    Labour…whoar…choice…eh?

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  44. Cactus Kate () says:

    Isn’t this the 2nd time that bloody Frith has met Marg?

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  45. billybragg () says:

    When it comes to female Tory politicians to meet, I would prefer the Australian sheila with the great rack you pictured a while back, not some cadaverous wax museum blue hair with bad teeth and thieving children whose major claim to fame is that she provoked a war rather than settle it diplomatically (by ordering the sinking of the Argentine cruiser Belgrano even though it was outside the British exclusion zone thrown around the Falklands in April 1982), something done in order to enact emergency measures at home that aong other things broke a coal miner’s strike that just happened to be sapping her popularity. Yep, she was/is a nasty piece of work. Like I said–i’ll take the Sheila.

    BTW Farrar, weight watchers would be in order.

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  46. Clint () says:

    DS,

    If you had any clue whatsoever, Poll Tax is nothing on what we have now in the UK. Council Tax is far more destructive than Poll Tax.

    David, good work meeting the Baroness, what an amazing woman. Her critics, on this thread, have no idea what it’s like to be shackled under oppressive communist regimes so its easy for them to sit back with their chardonnay and poke away at her legacy.

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  47. Porcupine () says:

    You can always make history dance to your own tune if you bleat about it loud and long enough eh billygoat?

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  48. phil u () says:

    gee kisekman….

    i reckon key’d be smart to distance himself from the soon-to-be clusterings around ‘dancing fool’ rodney..eh..?

    remember..?..he’s taken national back to the centre..

    are you still in denial that it’s happened..?

    kisekman..?

    what comes next..?..is it anger..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  49. Insolent Prick () says:

    Cadmus,

    Go back and read your fucking political history.

    Thatcher was very fond of Muldoon. She writes about that fondness in the Downing Street Years. Muldoon was equally fond of Thatcher. He wrote about that in three of his autobiographies. So too does Gustaffson mention it in his biography.

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  50. thehawk () says:

    She is hated by leftist losers because she was so bloody brilliant. The British Labour Party is now occupying the political ground of old centre-leaning Conservatives.
    No finer tribute can be paid by socialists
    that they have needed to adopt more right wing policies to thrive. Equally no better admission that socialism itself is a failure.

    Yes in parts of Britain she is hated. I think because those parts contain a generally thick dole-bludger populace. In others, where education and hard work are valued, she is worshipped. I guess she wouldn’t be popular here then.

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  51. Sonic () says:

    We got rid of her Hawk, sent her to the dustbin of history were she belongs. As for being popular, her reign led to her party being wrecked forever in Scotland, Wales and Northern England. So much so that their only chance now is to go all warm and fuzzy to try and make people forget her toxic legacy.

    And you can quote me on that.

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  52. roohoo () says:

    mmm, if Maggie was there today Bush wouldn’t have been allowed to go into Iraq….with 120,000 troops…..he would have gone in with the 500,000 that his Father did when they liberated Kuwait. Still, 10 out of 10 to W for having the guts to stay on the offensive. I say “stay the course”!!!!

    Maggie is a legend.

    That is a very happy looking Frith!

    Sonic, get back to work!

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  53. andrew llewellyn () says:

    “Yes in parts of Britain she is hated. I think because those parts contain a generally thick dole-bludger populace.”

    Well they did by the time she’d finished with them!

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  54. kisekiman () says:

    Phil,

    I don’t deny that the ideals espoused by ACT are an anaethema to many people mainly because they find it difficult to imagine what freedom might actually taste like and consequently ACT will always be a minority party. However you can be sure Key will form a working relationship with them in the future.

    I also don’t deny Key has taken a centrist position and far from being angry about it, I think it is a brilliant strategy to recast National in the image of Labour sans the stench of corruption that emanates from every office and orifice.

    That’s all for now

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  55. phil u () says:

    but kisekman….

    if that indeed were the case..and key is still looking to act…

    why is he being so open to traditional ideological opponents..?..as in coalition options..

    y’see kisekman..key has just routed the far right and their ideas/mantras..out of national..

    why on earth would he want to go into coalition with them..?

    far easier for him to look around in the centre for coalition partners…eh..?

    and just leave the actites to mill around with each other…

    and plot further revolution attempts..

    i reckon key’ll leave the rabid righties at arms length…

    he’s looking at doing a clark…and doing more than one term..

    and to hop to do that he’ll need to stay in the centre..

    and act-free..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  56. Danyl Mclauchlan () says:

    Neil, the bathroom’s free. Unlike the country under the Thatcherite junta.

    Rick

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  57. George Darroch () says:

    The same Margaret Thatcher that is “greatly saddened” by the death of Pinochet? Sickening and peverse.

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  58. woppo () says:

    In the happy little land where Bush has a brain and small boys still bake Iraq victory cakes, Pinochet is remembered as a somewhat scrotum-tightening figure, almost as sexy as Maggie in his day.

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  59. David Farrar () says:

    Thatcher is wrong on Pinochet. Doesn’t take away that she was right on far more important things.

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  60. phil u () says:

    ew..!..did you see the footage of her sitting opposite the evil old bastard pinochet..telling him how grateful they all are to him for ‘..bringing democracy..’ to his country…?

    ew..!..incubus meets incubus…

    they should have mated..eh..?

    pinochet and thatcher…

    imagine the malignent little demon they would have produced…

    yes..that’s right david..apart from little pinochet ‘slip’..

    she was a regular mother teresa..eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  61. Zach Castles () says:

    Baroness Thatcher was a great Prime Minister for Britain. I admire her and her policies which rebuilt Britain economically, socially and politically. She removed the unions from government and reformed the British Economy. Her recapture of the Falklands campaign proved she is a woman of principle who would refuse to loose to a foreign dictatorship.

    She is also a woman of conviction who was not afraid to introduce unpopular policies which ultimately improve a nation. She is a true stateswoman and politician who cares for the people of Britain.

    I am so envious of the delegates at the IYDU meeting in London :P

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