Comments on: The Keep It 18 campaign

By: SPC

SPC — Sat, 02 Dec 2006 20:38:45 +0000

As someone who lobbied MP’s on this on the Bill of Rights/Human Rights Act grounds – equality before the law of all age of political citizenship (as in 1999 and before on two conscience votes since then – PR and CU, I did not lobby WL and Ch this time given the hard time they had on those votes) … my take is that MP’s may have been arriving at the 18/20 age split.

Thus your campaign advocacy against this and for measures targeting access/possession by those under 18 may have excited the late government statement.

I was also applying this logic with my own lobbying.

By: stef

stef — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 08:01:22 +0000

I think in the end the strength of the keep it at 18 team was the cross-party support. Though a lot of the names in that story sound very familar!

By: dad4justice

dad4justice — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 07:28:50 +0000

This post is encouraging and a good read, as there is no substitute to the magic of youthful enthusiasm and confidence shown by these budding politicans.Good effort all round.

To Fatheragainstdad4justice – Why should I growl at you, as the mirror will reflect who is the fool .Have confidence my friend, one day you will over come your sense of inferiority and frustration.

By: David Farrar

David Farrar — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 06:01:43 +0000

John’s position was to support a second reading to allow the split age amendment to be considered.

By: stan

stan — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 05:45:35 +0000

how did the new National party leader vote on this again?

By: MKY

MKY — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:55:36 +0000

great post…. a really interesting read, thank you

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:27:24 +0000

Ross – care to elaborate on that remark? (“there was more to it than that though”)

I’m intrigued….

By: Ross Bell

Ross Bell — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:23:27 +0000

Hi DPF – nice post – there was more to it than that though.

Anyway, I think Metiria Turei’s speech (against raising the age) was the best.

By: JD

JD — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:46:52 +0000

Which bit of the picture doesn’t the booze companies get! They are facing ever increasing amounts of regulation and legislation and what do they do… disband their Wellington based lobbyists! yeah right

Then the PR woman from Lion Nathan is on TV trying to defend their website piss drinking competitions where you get a chance to win a $20 Tui T-shirt. Great bit of corporate responsibility.

I bet the tobacco industry is laughing at the booze boys and girls trying to blow smoke rings around the prospect of stopping more regulations and restrictions.

By: JD

JD — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:40:26 +0000

The booze industry has a lot to answer for. Watching that PR woman from Lion Nathan try to defend web based piss drinking campaigns to win Tui and other branded items was just a laugh. It’s no wonder they are in the position they are in with threats of regulation.

They just don’t seem to get it! One would have thought they need as many lobbyists as possible not fewer!

By: Fatheragainstdad4justice

Fatheragainstdad4justice — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:39:50 +0000

One your best ever posts I believe…

By: GPT

GPT — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 02:25:08 +0000

Interesting piece. Good effort by all involved.

By: sagenz

sagenz — Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:58:23 +0000

brilliant. now how about turning that groups attention and method to the country’s lowish growth rate.