Finding Jayden Headley
I feel incredibly sorry for Chris Jones who has now had his son Jayden kept from him for many months. The sad reality is there is a time limit as to how long Jayden can be kept away from him, with restoring custody to the the father being a viable option. Because every day the kidnapper (maternal grandfather) will be poisoning Jayden against his father and blaming him for everything. And eventually Jayden will hate his dad so much, custody will not be viable. Hence this of course is the plan of the mother.
Therefore the Police should be giving considerable priority to the case, because the temporary damage which has been done is going to become permanent soon.
If I was running the Police investigation I would be tracking the bank accounts of all the Headley family to see where withdrawals or payments are being done from. Likewise trace where cellphones are being used from. Have someone follow the mother. Plant tracing devices on their vehicles etc. One grandfather is not a master criminal and shouldn’t be that hard to find. They need to pay for accommodation and food somewhere.
January 9th, 2007 at 11:46 am
I can’t help but wonder if the police are being deliberately incompetent in this case. The guy is 68, he has to use a bank account, he has to buy things.
He has as good as admitted that he has kidnapped the boy in the letter to Radio Live.
What is so F$^%#ing hard?
January 9th, 2007 at 11:48 am
I can’t help but wonder if the police are being deliberately incompetent in this case. The guy is 68, he has to use a bank account, he has to buy things.
He has as good as admitted that he has kidnapped the boy in the letter to Radio Live.
What is so F$^%#ing hard?
January 9th, 2007 at 11:49 am
I can’t help but wonder if the police are being deliberately incompetent in this case. The guy is 68, he has to use a bank account, he has to buy things.
He has as good as admitted that he has kidnapped the boy in the letter to Radio Live.
What is so F$^%#ing hard?
January 9th, 2007 at 11:52 am
I can’t help but wonder if the police are being deliberately incompetent in this case. The guy is 68, he has to use a bank account, he has to buy things.
He has as good as admitted that he has kidnapped the boy in the letter to Radio Live, this is justification in using tracking methods.
What is so F$^%#ing hard?
As for the “offer” of letting CYFS interviews decide where the kid goes. well… The kid will be so schooled up now it would be a farce. Since when has a criminal been allowed to dictate the terms?
G
January 9th, 2007 at 11:53 am
Stupid Typekey!!!!!
Gman
January 9th, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Good suggestions David, but the police have apparently admitted that recently they have had no-one working on the case. That says it all.
January 9th, 2007 at 12:13 pm
Sometimes I feel ashamed to be a female.
What sort of mother puts their own child through this and deliberately deprives a young boy of his loving father.
This family is self-centred and thinking only of themselves. Why is it that so many females of our generation seem to have entitlement issues and a ‘victim’ mentality where instead of getting on with their lives and being responsible for their own actions they seem determined to blame others? Are they so bitter that they can not see that the long term effects of using their children as pawns will leave huge emotionally scarring.
The police need to pull out all stops and find this poor boy now.
January 9th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
“Have someone follow the mother”
I thought she was in jail for contempt of court?
January 9th, 2007 at 12:33 pm
The longer this young lad is distanced from his biological father the more likely this lad will be the victim of parental alienation syndrome PAS, which is a condition not recognised by the family court. Basically it is the brainwashing of a vulnerable child by a family member who has custody and poisons the child, so that they turn against a non-– custodial parent. Judge Boshier “ It is quite deleterious to the children’s welfare if there is no sanction for breach of the order”. The fact is family court orders are not worth the paper they are printed on and that is not in the child’s best interests ?
My experience is that the family court condones and actually encourages PAS, as it is a great money-spinner for the various professional leaches that cling to the misery of family dissolution. The court and police purposely fail to acknowledge the previous strength of the bond between parent and child and I not surprised police had made this a low priority case.
As a falsely accused biological dad and the victim of a serious miscarriage of justice I smell the stench of a double standard here. If I decided to go down to hostile terrority today and deliver my alienated daughters their December birthdays’ and Christmas presents, I can assure you all every available cop in the south island would be armed up and at the ready to pump me fill of lead. The thought of abducting them would be certain death.
As a six-year victim of PAS, my advice to the father in this case Chris Jones is forget getting a fair deal from the corrupt family court mate. Mum’s in jail , what a mess eh Judge Boshier…what would he care .
I will dust off my presents, maybe next year they will get them to my sad children?
Happy New Year Judge Boshier – your so-called caring court is a sinister and secretive dysfunctional cess –pit and certainly not fit to be called a court of justice!!
January 9th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
“Have someone follow the mother.”
Don’t they just look through the little slit in the door every three hours?
January 9th, 2007 at 12:53 pm
Fletcher – doh – good point with the mother. I forgot that.
January 9th, 2007 at 1:25 pm
Sounds like police academy 101. What the hell is wrong with the police when it comes to this?
January 9th, 2007 at 1:34 pm
And another thread hijack from d4j – amazing how anything to do with family law is all about him.
Are there any facts supporting the contention that the police are making this a low priority case? Certainly there are a number of appeals and the OC was on the wireless this am saying that it was less about resources and more about needing information.
Someone most know where the grandfather is and they need to pot him.
Hard to say that the Courts are not taking the matter seriously – they have locked the mother up for contempt.
As for intercept warrants one would not imagine that the police would hardly broadcast the fact that they are tapping phones etc.
One can only hope that the boy is returned as soon as possible.
January 9th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
how many cops do you think would be on the case if the mother had been given custody and the father’s family had kidnapped him?
Dimes guess is about 416
January 9th, 2007 at 1:58 pm
Excuse me GPT, my writing was not a hijack attempt of the thread, as I was merely trying to highlight the total incompetence of the family court to enforce orders. It took the Magna Carta to get mum locked up and now the maternal granddad ( who is guilty of child abduction and should be prison bound ), wants the boy to be seen by CYFS. I believe the damage to child through wrongful adult behaviour (PAS) had already reared it’s ugly head in this case. If one takes into account the hand-written letter From Jayden to his father;
“ I like you Chris but I only want to see you at the (Salvation Army ) nest, you are nice to me there . I love my Mum and want to live with Mum and Brett, Please let me.”
Yet the dysfunctional and meaningless family court awarded custody to Chris ( the real dad ) ?
GPT you say you only want the child returned asap , yeah right, Which parent do you think the young lad should return too?
January 9th, 2007 at 2:07 pm
Is being deliberately obtuse a hobby d4j? To the father who has the day-to-day care order of course.
At the risk of encouraging another diatribe over the perceived failings of the family court how exactly should the court *better* enforce its orders? At the end of the day the grandfather has kidnapped Jayden – under the law that’s the same level (or lack therein) of protection anybody has.
January 9th, 2007 at 2:25 pm
Hi Paula
Its called extreme feminism or femnazi as the culprits are called. google femnazi and see what you find.
also check out menz.org.nz to see the kiwi male (and increasingly level headed womens’ perspective) of where its going wrong in NZ and most other western societies.
Pls dont get me wrong though as I do not advocate a return to the patriarchial familes of old but lets not dress up gender equality as a covert method of smashing men and family’s to bits for the sake of gender power.
January 9th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
GPT, it is not only d4j who believe that the family court is bias. It is a sad fact that many organisations are bias against men when it comes to children.
Men are not allowed to sit next to an unaccompanied child on an aircraft because some perceived risk to a child. We read in the Herald today that a woman with her 7 year old daughter in the car had to be forced off the road because of her erratic driving. She refused surrender her keys but let a strange woman take her daughter. She crashed her car shortly after. The woman is currently on a drug rehabilitation programme.
The girl had been reunited with her mother and police had no plans to involve Child, Youth and Family.
“We’ve got no concerns for the child’s safety. It’s just this woman on this day, her manner of driving,” he said.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10418268
Father’s are denied access on the flimsiest evidence that the child is at risk. There is reasonable likelihood that this woman could put her daughter at risk again.
January 9th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
> Are there any facts supporting the contention that the police are making this a low priority case?
I would’ve thought that it’s a low priority case given that no police are actually working on the case, as reported in today’s Dominion Post?
January 9th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
Ross – found the comment I think you are referring to. Technically it’s second hand although the police response; “police were reliant on the public coming forward with information about Jayden’s whereabouts” is not encouraging.
And it is fair to question how someone can disappear for five months in a relatively small country.
January 9th, 2007 at 4:02 pm
DPF: “Because every day the kidnapper (maternal grandfather) will be poisoning Jayden against his father and blaming him for everything. And eventually Jayden will hate his dad so much, custody will not be viable. Hence this of course is the plan of the mother.”
Allegedly.
Or in your opinion.
January 9th, 2007 at 7:03 pm
A sad case but the real children here are the bloody adults. I bet if this man owed money to the IRD he would be in the big house by now.
January 9th, 2007 at 7:12 pm
Now when a high court judge has a child kidnapped, the police are far more efficient…
January 9th, 2007 at 10:23 pm
I have no idea why this family has fallen out so badly.Does anybody commenting here really know? Who cares? and is it really about the Law?What Law?
January 10th, 2007 at 8:31 am
I think people care because a young child is involved and noone likes to see children hurt, and used in this manner.
I also think it is upsetting people that this boy’s grandad and mum are manipulating the law for their own gain.
This young boy has had his faith and trust shattered by those he loves and that is something you can not replace.
January 10th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
I agree with you Paula that no-one likes to see a child hurt. The paternal grandfather and mother are not actually manipulating the law – they’re breaking it.
January 12th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
Jayden will remember this and in the not too distant future he will see through the lies and the hatred towards his Dad.
Children are not stupid and they know when adults are using them for their own gain.
This mother and grandfather are not showing love. If you love someone you do not destroy their security and future.
What if Jayden’s Dad died tomorrow without ever reconciling with his Dad how cruel would that be?
Love is not about empty words and the selfish need to be right at all costs. Love is shown in actions and this family are not showing love at all.
January 13th, 2007 at 1:20 am
Jayden is the true victim in all this and I am sure he will be a scarred child. The mother must be so twisted.
But isn’t it curious how quickly the police and courts worked to chuck Jayden’s mother in prison for contempt of court, but the Kahui whanau, implicated for double murder, have been handled with PC kid gloves and are all free citizens? I don’t agree with how Jayden’s maternal side have behaved but the reason for the imprisonment is so disproportinate when compared to the double murder of the Kahui twins by one or more family members all with blood on their hands either directly or indirectly.
January 13th, 2007 at 11:07 am
This seems to be the way justice is run in this country. Race, gender, wealth and social status, those with physical and mental disabilities are afforded more rights than Joe Bloggs average the while middle class citizens of new Zealand.
The average hard working person has their taxes paying for the poor decisions made by those at the top with little chance for any input ourselves.
If you see the Herald article this morning
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10418972&ref=rss
These are the true victims of a system that is destroying the lives of so many innocent families and creating life long problems for those caught in it’s wake.
January 15th, 2007 at 7:12 pm
On the news tonight it said brochures containing the names and addresses of Jayden’s maternal relatives have been posted around their neighbourhoods.
I think this is disgusting as it threatens the lives of the innocent members of the family who are bystanders to this mess.
Noone disputes that Jayden’s grandfather is a sick man or that his mother has acted reprehensibly and they should be named and shamed so they are held accountable and responsible for the damage they have done to this poor young boy.
Please, though if anyone knows who is doing this be careful as certain members of this family are not involved and do not deserve to be hurt like this.
Those that have stood aside and let this happen are as guilty as those that have perpetrated the crime, but cowards always show their true colours eventually.
Jayden’s mother has chosen the value of one loved one over the other and that is unwise and has caused a nasty estrangement that won’t heal.
January 15th, 2007 at 7:26 pm
On the news tonight it said brochures containing the names and addresses of Jayden’s maternal relatives have been posted around their neighbourhoods.
I think this is disgusting as it threatens the lives of the innocent members of the family who are bystanders to this mess.
Noone disputes that Jayden’s grandfather is a sick man or that his mother has acted reprehensibly and they should be named and shamed so they are held accountable and responsible for the damage they have done to this poor young boy.
Please, though if anyone knows who is doing this be careful as certain members of this family are not involved and do not deserve to be hurt like this.
Those that have stood aside and let this happen are as guilty as those that have perpetrated the crime, but cowards always show their true colours eventually.
Jayden’s mother has chosen the value of one loved one over the other and that is unwise and has caused a nasty estrangement that won’t heal.
January 18th, 2007 at 6:58 pm
There are some very cruel and deceitful families out there. A family I heard of this week were not only suffering false accusations of rape against an innocent man, but his wife had been evily and falsely accused of leaving photos and quotes in a mentally ill woman’s letter box.
There are some sick and perverted families out there who do not care who’s lives they destroy for their personal gain.
Please protect the vulnerable like Jayden as they trust their families and will be lied to and stabbed in the back by those after personal gain.
How do you forgive the cruel adults who do similar things to beautiful children, may God forgive them all.
January 18th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
There are some very cruel and deceitful families out there. A family I heard of this week were not only suffering false accusations of rape against an innocent man, but his wife had been evily and falsely accused of leaving photos and quotes in a mentally ill woman’s letter box.
There are some sick and perverted families out there who do not care who’s lives they destroy for their personal gain.
Please protect the vulnerable like Jayden as they trust their families and will be lied to and stabbed in the back by those after personal gain.
How do you forgive the cruel adults who do similar things to beautiful children, may God forgive them all.