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		<title>By: Manolo</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/beehive_poll_rigging.html#comment-275509</link>
		<dc:creator>Manolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 03:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David C said &quot;I&#039;m a public servant&quot;  

Mr. Moses would be horrified by this assertion :-)))

Cheers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David C said &#8220;I&#8217;m a public servant&#8221;  </p>
<p>Mr. Moses would be horrified by this assertion <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> ))</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: insider</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/beehive_poll_rigging.html#comment-275508</link>
		<dc:creator>insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more they take part in these polls the better I say. That will leave less time for meddling and making up policies to analyse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more they take part in these polls the better I say. That will leave less time for meddling and making up policies to analyse.</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/beehive_poll_rigging.html#comment-275507</link>
		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 23:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could it have been that the voting in 2005 in a certain South Auckland electorate was conducted under the Socialists Way that is Vote early and vote often, No Im sure it couldnt be although other people may have a different opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it have been that the voting in 2005 in a certain South Auckland electorate was conducted under the Socialists Way that is Vote early and vote often, No Im sure it couldnt be although other people may have a different opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: bring back democracy</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/beehive_poll_rigging.html#comment-275506</link>
		<dc:creator>bring back democracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David C:

Considering you have have identified yourself as a public servant, you probably should read this:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/2yr23d&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/2yr23d&lt;/a&gt;

Particularly the section titled &quot;Individual Comment&quot; where you will learn the definition of unacceptable contribution to any public debate or discussion.

You are duty bound to uphold a convention of political neutrality, and I shouldn&#039;t have to be telling you that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David C:</p>
<p>Considering you have have identified yourself as a public servant, you probably should read this:  <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2yr23d" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2yr23d</a></p>
<p>Particularly the section titled &#8220;Individual Comment&#8221; where you will learn the definition of unacceptable contribution to any public debate or discussion.</p>
<p>You are duty bound to uphold a convention of political neutrality, and I shouldn&#8217;t have to be telling you that.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter S</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/beehive_poll_rigging.html#comment-275505</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think I have that disorder that prevents you from working for National, shit, what&#039;s it called, you know the one. Ah yeah, morals.
&quot;

Considering the Labour party has consistently attacked what, for centuaries, have been classed as morals, then the only conclusion I can draw is that you are confusing the concept of morals and ideology.

As far as morals and ethics, Labour have almost none. Any internal or self ethical regulation that once existed has been replaced by expediency and equivalence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think I have that disorder that prevents you from working for National, shit, what&#8217;s it called, you know the one. Ah yeah, morals.<br />
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<p>Considering the Labour party has consistently attacked what, for centuaries, have been classed as morals, then the only conclusion I can draw is that you are confusing the concept of morals and ideology.</p>
<p>As far as morals and ethics, Labour have almost none. Any internal or self ethical regulation that once existed has been replaced by expediency and equivalence.</p>
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		<title>By: David C</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/beehive_poll_rigging.html#comment-275504</link>
		<dc:creator>David C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 04:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m ok with not working for the National Government Mr. Prick. I&#039;ve already turned down one job offer from them so it&#039;s not as if they don&#039;t want me. 
I think I have that disorder that prevents you from working for National, shit, what&#039;s it called, you know the one. Ah yeah, morals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m ok with not working for the National Government Mr. Prick. I&#8217;ve already turned down one job offer from them so it&#8217;s not as if they don&#8217;t want me.<br />
I think I have that disorder that prevents you from working for National, shit, what&#8217;s it called, you know the one. Ah yeah, morals.</p>
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		<title>By: Insolent Prick</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/beehive_poll_rigging.html#comment-275503</link>
		<dc:creator>Insolent Prick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 04:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David C:

You won&#039;t be working for the next National Government.  I&#039;d start upskilling and thinking about what I can contribute to the real world, if I were you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David C:</p>
<p>You won&#8217;t be working for the next National Government.  I&#8217;d start upskilling and thinking about what I can contribute to the real world, if I were you.</p>
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		<title>By: smile</title>
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		<dc:creator>smile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still 3400 came from Nat computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still 3400 came from Nat computers.</p>
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		<title>By: weizguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>weizguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still, you have to respect the National Party Research unit for voting 3000 times...  That&#039;s commitment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still, you have to respect the National Party Research unit for voting 3000 times&#8230;  That&#8217;s commitment!</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/beehive_poll_rigging.html#comment-275500</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the real story is that Parliament is employing dumbass luddites who&#039;ve never heard of IPs, server logs, etc.

Don&#039;t worry about poll rigging, folks. This is the online equivalent of voting, going to your car, sticking on a joke shop moustache and an overcoat, and trying to convince the polling officer you&#039;re your own distant cousin Luigi

How on earth did they think that flooding the DomPost site &lt;i&gt;wouldn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; get noticed?!

No wonder NZ is light years behind the rest of the world in terms of Internet services and online democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the real story is that Parliament is employing dumbass luddites who&#8217;ve never heard of IPs, server logs, etc.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry about poll rigging, folks. This is the online equivalent of voting, going to your car, sticking on a joke shop moustache and an overcoat, and trying to convince the polling officer you&#8217;re your own distant cousin Luigi</p>
<p>How on earth did they think that flooding the DomPost site <i>wouldn&#8217;t</i> get noticed?!</p>
<p>No wonder NZ is light years behind the rest of the world in terms of Internet services and online democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Williams JD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Williams JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 02:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloody typical. There is fear in the eyes of those Labour scum bags occupying the halls of Parliament. The time of the revolution is coming ...

Out onto the streets they must go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloody typical. There is fear in the eyes of those Labour scum bags occupying the halls of Parliament. The time of the revolution is coming &#8230;</p>
<p>Out onto the streets they must go.</p>
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		<title>By: David Farrar</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/beehive_poll_rigging.html#comment-275498</link>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2007 00:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hayman - while I encourage all media to leak to me, my info does not come from the media.  Maybe it comes from the Beehive :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hayman &#8211; while I encourage all media to leak to me, my info does not come from the media.  Maybe it comes from the Beehive <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aucklander At Large</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aucklander At Large</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone knows DPF doesn&#039;t have friends - that&#039;s why he organises bloggers drinks... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone knows DPF doesn&#8217;t have friends &#8211; that&#8217;s why he organises bloggers drinks&#8230; <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bevan</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/beehive_poll_rigging.html#comment-275496</link>
		<dc:creator>Bevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Plus DPF seems to have more info about the timing of the voting than is available from the story.
Inside tips from the DOMPOST newsroom ??&quot;

Yeah god forbid he actually has friends.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Plus DPF seems to have more info about the timing of the voting than is available from the story.<br />
Inside tips from the DOMPOST newsroom ??&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah god forbid he actually has friends&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: hayman</title>
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		<dc:creator>hayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What isnt shown is how much of Keys support came from  Parliament.
Its well known that electorate agents are busy on talkback lines  plugging the line of the day.

Plus DPF seems to have more info about the  timing of the voting than is available from the story.
Inside tips from the DOMPOST newsroom ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What isnt shown is how much of Keys support came from  Parliament.<br />
Its well known that electorate agents are busy on talkback lines  plugging the line of the day.</p>
<p>Plus DPF seems to have more info about the  timing of the voting than is available from the story.<br />
Inside tips from the DOMPOST newsroom ??</p>
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		<title>By: Psycho Milt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Psycho Milt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was Labour employees?  I&#039;m surprised - I&#039;d assumed it was simply Don and his mates getting a bit of cheap revenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was Labour employees?  I&#8217;m surprised &#8211; I&#8217;d assumed it was simply Don and his mates getting a bit of cheap revenge.</p>
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		<title>By: Bevan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes David C, I see were you are going and thank you for proving my point. Now get back to work - we are not paying you to skew public opinion, we are paying you to run our country - how about for a change you and your beloved Labour Government do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes David C, I see were you are going and thank you for proving my point. Now get back to work &#8211; we are not paying you to skew public opinion, we are paying you to run our country &#8211; how about for a change you and your beloved Labour Government do that.</p>
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		<title>By: David C</title>
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		<dc:creator>David C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If you dont see the difference, then you are obviously a socialist.

Or Helen Clark&quot;

Ya got me. I&#039;m really Helen.

And you might be paying their wages, but you are also paying my wages. I&#039;m a public servant. That means I work for the Government of the time - which (and it pains you all this point) is a Labour Government. Thus I work for the Labour party...I&#039;m sure you can see where I&#039;m going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you dont see the difference, then you are obviously a socialist.</p>
<p>Or Helen Clark&#8221;</p>
<p>Ya got me. I&#8217;m really Helen.</p>
<p>And you might be paying their wages, but you are also paying my wages. I&#8217;m a public servant. That means I work for the Government of the time &#8211; which (and it pains you all this point) is a Labour Government. Thus I work for the Labour party&#8230;I&#8217;m sure you can see where I&#8217;m going.</p>
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		<title>By: Danyl Mclauchlan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danyl Mclauchlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Danyl McLauchlan, where are you yooohoooo ! You had a lot to say about supposed rigging of the petition against retrospective legislation. Anything to say on this?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m at Melbourne Uni, taking a course at the Medical School. And this seems to be a spectacular endorsement of my point that online polls are utterly worthless. 

I also had a letter to the editor published in the Dom Post the other week attacking their story about their online poll that &#039;proved&#039; &#039;most New Zealanders&#039; supported Andertons comments about Bush and Iraq. 

It&#039;s always nice to be vindicated in such a spectacular manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Danyl McLauchlan, where are you yooohoooo ! You had a lot to say about supposed rigging of the petition against retrospective legislation. Anything to say on this?</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m at Melbourne Uni, taking a course at the Medical School. And this seems to be a spectacular endorsement of my point that online polls are utterly worthless. </p>
<p>I also had a letter to the editor published in the Dom Post the other week attacking their story about their online poll that &#8216;proved&#8217; &#8216;most New Zealanders&#8217; supported Andertons comments about Bush and Iraq. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s always nice to be vindicated in such a spectacular manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Davies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Davies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DavidC
&quot;Wow, this is totally worthwhile news guys. I think, the fact that this happened indicates there is at least 1 person in parliament with too much time on their hands. And that there are a whole lot of Kiwiblog users with equally too much time on their hands.&quot;

Big difference though. I am paying for the parliamentary staff to play their sad little games. I doubt I pay the wages of too many Kiwiblog users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DavidC<br />
&#8220;Wow, this is totally worthwhile news guys. I think, the fact that this happened indicates there is at least 1 person in parliament with too much time on their hands. And that there are a whole lot of Kiwiblog users with equally too much time on their hands.&#8221;</p>
<p>Big difference though. I am paying for the parliamentary staff to play their sad little games. I doubt I pay the wages of too many Kiwiblog users.</p>
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