Comment of the Week

February 10th, 2007 at 9:18 pm by David Farrar

The comment of the week has to be on this thread about Chris Carter’s civil union.

A disapproving Fletch commented:

Sorry, but as a Christian, I obviously don’t agree. In fact I am almost tempted to say that the thunderstorm we experienced this arvo could almost be God voicing his displeasure at this sham and farce of a “wedding”.

Then I said:

If God created the thunderstorm to protest against the civil union, why didn’t he be more direct and say send an e-mail message instead.

And then a commenter called God posted:

Just a quick note to say that I approve wholeheartedly of this civil union. The thunderstorm was in fact in response to Michael Cullen’s proposal for a fixed rate mortgage levy.

Heh I’m with God on this one.

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33 Responses to “Comment of the Week”

  1. Fred () says:

    Dave’s serious, isn’t he?

    Searing wit that.

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  2. mikeybill () says:

    God really needs to get out more don’t ya think?

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  3. mavxp () says:

    Seeing as free will is integral to christianity, trying to impose morality on others is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. I’m sure God would feel the same way, but I’m not arrogant enough to presume I know Gods will on every matter;)

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  4. ZenTiger () says:

    Free will is not license to do whatever you want.

    Free will simply means you are able to choose the path you take. Some paths lead straight to hell. Just ask an addict.

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  5. guzman () says:

    Anna Nicole had a legal marriage to J Howard Marshall.
    At the time she was 26 and he was 89.

    My pick for the father of her baby is Frederic Prinz von Anhalt.( who really is Hans Lichtenberg who was ‘adopted’ after paying money to get a title).

    Dont know what Zsa Zsa has to say about that.

    Did someone say Chris and Peter has been together 33 years

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  6. Fletch () says:

    mavxp,

    Yes, God did give us free will, I am not denying that – but free will to do what? Having Free Will presumes that there are two ways to choose from – a right way and a wrong way, and I’m pretty sure I know where God stands: it’s all in the rules for living he gave us (aka The Bible).

    Am I being old-fashioned? Or not moving ahead where the rest of the world is going? Not so: On December 6, 2004, the United Nations ratified the Doha declaration on the family which stated in part, “A family composed of a husband, wife and children is the natural, basic element of a society and should be protected by society and by the State” and to “Uphold, preserve and defend the institution of marriage”

    This had the support of 149 countries, with 14 dissenters (our ‘lil old NZ being one of them).

    It is WE who are swimming against world opinion.

    Sorry, Helen, but there is nothing to be proud of in what you’ve done.

    As for my little tounge-in-cheek thunderstorm thing, I believe I said I was ‘tempted’ to think that was like God speaking. As far as methods of communication go, I’ve often heard people say, “if what I’m doing is wrong, may God strike me dead right now by lightning”.
    Which method of communication do you think would be more noticeable to people? Being struck by lightning, or getting an email? ;)

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  7. God () says:

    Ps,

    That comment earlier wasn’t by me.
    I’m with Fletch, just so you know.

    The Man Upstairs

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  8. dad4justice () says:

    I am with you on this Fletch, this government forces its insidious homosexual agenda down the throats of normal kiwis, which think it is disgusting that this government has twice deliberately refused to back traditional marriage and equal parenting.

    This government is seen on the world stage as a bunch of radical feminists and militant homosexuals!

    People who lack essence, substance and moral purpose have portrayed the Family Unit of Mum, Dad and the kids as irrelevant.

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  9. err.. () says:

    “forces its insidious homosexual agenda down the throats of normal kiwis”

    Has there been any research into the statistical frequency of the use of “to force down throat[s]” in everyday english versus discussions relating to homosexuality? I swear that phrase seems to turn up in the latter with far greater regularity.

    It’s almost like there’s all these guys out there who, the minute you mention homosexuality, get this sudden urge to imagine something being forced down their throats. Odd.

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  10. Psycho Milt () says:

    Now Dad4justice, if any government poofters try and force their homosexual agendas down your throat, well that’s what God gave you teeth for. Sorted.

    Re the Thunderstorm-as-God’s-judgement thing, I recall in Christchurch in the early ’80s a religious group responded to a freak hailstorm in the suburb of Halswell by putting a photo of one of the damaged cars on the cover of their newsletter, proclaiming God’s judgement on the people of Halswell, and calling on them to heed God’s warning of displeasure at their sins. I was rather chuffed, because the weather up in Durham St had been bright and sunny that afternoon, so God had obviously had no problem with the bullet of dope I’d purchased.

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  11. Michael (The Right Wing One) () says:

    Well, considering a civil union means a disapproving God sends a thunderstorm, don’t you think we should have had a Noah-type flood in southern Poland in the 1940s?

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  12. dad4justice () says:

    If this is not forcing an agenda then I do not know what is ? Tim Barnett and Chris Carter quoted from a homosexual newspaper in 2001;
    “ I believe there is a real urgency to completing the equal rights agenda as we will not have a queer-friendly government forever. We have the luxury of being full-time stirrers, so we must change attitudes, so they can come right. As queer politicians our mission is to deliver equal rights under the law and ensure that the Government machine is working for our community.”

    I guess that explains why the poofter asylum seeker was allowed to stay, but the Christian was sent packing.What twisted hypocrites !!!

    And to my critic’s PUT A BAND AID ON THAT BLEEDING HEART .

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  13. Brett Longey () says:

    Fletch said “Am I being old-fashioned? Or not moving ahead where the rest of the world is going? Not so: On December 6, 2004, the United Nations ratified the Doha declaration on the family which stated in part, “A family composed of a husband, wife and children is the natural, basic element of a society and should be protected by society and by the State” and to “Uphold, preserve and defend the institution of marriage”

    This had the support of 149 countries, with 14 dissenters (our ‘lil old NZ being one of them).

    It is WE who are swimming against world opinion.

    Sorry, Helen, but there is nothing to be proud of in what you’ve done”

    I AGREE 100% FLETCH

    As for those two men getting hitched (shame on them) and i dont care how long they have had their sick relationship.
    What sort of message is it sending to our young,that homosexuality is “cool” or “OK” and something that sould be “embraced”,, well its NOT it is disgusting and that is putting it mildly.

    Homosexuals are people who have chosen the wrong path for some reason or another and should be helped by a psychologist or the likes to rid them of this perverted sickness.

    And shame on Helen Clarke for letting this evil civil unions bill even get started.

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  14. err.. () says:

    “and should be helped by a psychologist or the likes to rid them of this perverted sickness.”

    I’m sure there’s psychologists forming a queue around the block to support that idea. Did you check with any?

    http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/resolution97_text.html

    Oh, you didn’t.

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  15. Matty () says:

    Dave, I know your site attracts the more bigoted members of society, but this is ridiculous.

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  16. dad4justice () says:

    Sorry Matty darling can’t find that word “bigoted” in my dictionary or Bible.

    I know this sounds ridiculous, but what does it mean ?

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  17. David Farrar () says:

    I’m amused that someone thinks young teens are so impressionable they will suddenly become homosexual because it is cool or they saw a civil union reported in the media. Come on, get real.

    I’ve also never worked out why people find homosexuality disgusting but never rail against heterosexual sodomy for example.

    That last question was whetroic by the way. Please don’t answer it.

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  18. kiwi_donkey () says:

    Oh great, lets live by the bible. Let’s exterminate opposing races, sacrifice our children, keep slaves, and only accept as priests bearded men who speak aramaic and Don’t Use a Computer. And hands up all you evil Onanists! No no no, not *that* hand. Yuk.

    The amusing thing about incoherent belief systems is that they are always used selectively. Typically to justify a bigoted point of view arrived at without genuine analysis.

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  19. ZenTiger () says:

    Brilliant satire Kiwi_donkey, your end statement “typically to justify a bigoted point of view arrived at without genuine analysis.” presumably means I can actually disregard your first paragraph?

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  20. kiwi_donkey () says:

    ZenTiger: Surely you know that a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds?

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  21. dad4justice () says:

    With a name like kiwi donkey I would have thought that the small mind syndrome was more appropriate to the ass that spurts such foolish garbage .

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  22. Andrew () says:

    Hey did you look at the body language of Helen and Peter D in the photo in the Sunday MSM with Chris Peter K.
    Helen was all close to Chris, whilst Peter D was basically standing all alone to the side, not exactly what you would call an intimate photo, which is usally the case at weddings.
    What does this say either about the relationship with Helen or Peter D actual thoughts on the whole thing.
    Just a thought

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  23. chiz () says:

    Fletch:Having Free Will presumes that there are two ways to choose from – a right way and a wrong way, and I’m pretty sure I know where God stands: it’s all in the rules for living he gave us (aka The Bible).

    The Bible isn’t true and it is ambiguous anyway. And what about all those rules about not eating pork, mixing fibres etc in the Old Testament?

    Fletch:Am I being old-fashioned? Or not moving ahead where the rest of the world is going? Not so: On December 6, 2004, the United Nations ratified the Doha declaration on the family which stated in part, “A family composed of a husband, wife and children is the natural, basic element of a society and should be protected by society and by the State” and to “Uphold, preserve and defend the institution of marriage”

    Notions of family vary throughout history and the world. There are, for example, societies where extramarital sex is mandatory(!). There are others who believe in partible parternity where all the men who had sex with a women during pregnancy are regarded as having contributed to the biological makeup of the child and are therefore all regarded as being fathers of the child.

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  24. chiz () says:

    err..:It’s almost like there’s all these guys out there who, the minute you mention homosexuality, get this sudden urge to imagine something being forced down their throats. Odd.

    Homophobic people are more aroused by gay porn than nonhomophobes. There has been research on this.

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  25. chiz () says:

    Brett Longey:Homosexuals are people who have chosen the wrong path for some reason or another …

    Gay people don’t choose to be gay.

    …and should be helped by a psychologist or the likes to rid them of this perverted sickness.

    Homophobia is a sickness. Have you considered help? Religion is also a sickness but in some cases this is probably genetic rather than chosen so it may be curable in some people.

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  26. chiz () says:

    Oops. I meant ‘not curable’ in that last post.

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  27. Fred () says:

    You owe it to your kids…
    Read this thread, see how both sides think and flee…

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  28. dad4justice () says:

    What about the kids !

    It is obvious to any sane person that this government couldn’t give a stuff about the sad predicament many children in this country face. Record child abuse levels and wholesale fatherlessness and out of control youth is the evidence.

    If the government cared about kids they wouldn’t be simply stumbling around in the darkness of confusion,selfish human lusts and the intellectual vanities of many who like to try various ideas that titillate their own intellect.

    Forget the faggots and start thinking of the kids!

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  29. Matty () says:

    Oh how the flying fuck are kids adversely affected by homosexuality? Or homosexual parents?

    There are some downsides to single parenthood, but that’s a reality, and the disparity is not crushing, nor should it lead to discrimination.

    I don’t know a single kid raised by gays who is actually in any notable predicament – or failing at school, or gender-confused, or gay for that matter! I just don’t get what the fuss is about.

    Almost all kids would benefit from your silence, dad4justice, not to mention most adults.

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  30. dad4justice () says:

    Matty you deluded girlyman. I think all children would benefit from a change in elitism attitudes from a selfish and uncaring government, who should prioritise kid’s needs over their minority –agenda social policies.

    Just imagine the many benefits to society had the government shown kiwi children such enthusiasm instead of a small group of homosexuals.

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  31. Helen Lovejoy () says:

    Will someone please think of the children!

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  32. Fletch () says:

    According to a report HERE, it’s hard to conclude one way or the other on the subject of children raised by homosexual or heterosexual parents.
    However, on the subject of having a married mother and father it does say –

    There is an absolute mountain of social science research showing that children who are raised with their married mother and father do far better in every measure of well-being than children who grow up in any other family situation. Rarely is the social science literature as conclusive as it is on this point.

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  33. Matty () says:

    Have you considered, dad4justice, that gay rights do not inherently detract from children’s rights, nor, if it weren’t for bigots like you opposing gay rights, very little money and time would actually ever be dedicated to establishing equal family-rights for gays.

    Gays were children too, remember. Think the lack of a stable, accepted, family orientated future is part of the foul mix that causes so many gay kids to top themselves?

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