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		<title>By: Callum McPetrie</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283842</link>
		<dc:creator>Callum McPetrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 05:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That poster is a far, far better representation of the welfare state than of capitalism. The hard-working taxpayer has to feed the thousands of other able-bodied people, who are just, if not more, as capable to do a job as the taxpayer who feeds him-then has little to feed himself with, unless he and his spouse have to full time jobs. Than there&#039;s the hassle of childcare, which takes away much of that extra income.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That poster is a far, far better representation of the welfare state than of capitalism. The hard-working taxpayer has to feed the thousands of other able-bodied people, who are just, if not more, as capable to do a job as the taxpayer who feeds him-then has little to feed himself with, unless he and his spouse have to full time jobs. Than there&#8217;s the hassle of childcare, which takes away much of that extra income.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex Widerstrom</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283841</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex Widerstrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 01:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course it&#039;s a distorted view of reality, but it&#039;s certainly the way some people would have it if they could get away with it, and which they keep trying to impose on NZ. And equally side show bob is right... the left just imposes a different pyramid, where position close to or at the top is based &lt;i&gt;solely&lt;/i&gt; on connections rather than a mix of wealth &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; connections.

Till the pyramid is inverted, so that ordinary people have real power over those in public &quot;service&quot; - from politicians to cops to bureaucrats - we&#039;re just voting to shift one set of characters out of the picture and replace them with another. The only constant is the vast majority of ordinary people left on the bottom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it&#8217;s a distorted view of reality, but it&#8217;s certainly the way some people would have it if they could get away with it, and which they keep trying to impose on NZ. And equally side show bob is right&#8230; the left just imposes a different pyramid, where position close to or at the top is based <i>solely</i> on connections rather than a mix of wealth <i>and</i> connections.</p>
<p>Till the pyramid is inverted, so that ordinary people have real power over those in public &#8220;service&#8221; &#8211; from politicians to cops to bureaucrats &#8211; we&#8217;re just voting to shift one set of characters out of the picture and replace them with another. The only constant is the vast majority of ordinary people left on the bottom.</p>
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		<title>By: bubbsie</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283840</link>
		<dc:creator>bubbsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at this site you guys, some amazing links to bloggers all over the world:

Asia, S.America, Africa, M East

it really opened my eyes to how ordinary people can express an opinion freely even from countries  that are riddled with oppression. The links to mexico blogs, Zimbabwe, Iraq, whatever  take your interest are really good !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at this site you guys, some amazing links to bloggers all over the world:</p>
<p>Asia, S.America, Africa, M East</p>
<p>it really opened my eyes to how ordinary people can express an opinion freely even from countries  that are riddled with oppression. The links to mexico blogs, Zimbabwe, Iraq, whatever  take your interest are really good !!</p>
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		<title>By: lyndon</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283839</link>
		<dc:creator>lyndon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 23:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you ignore the value judgments, I would observe that the base is far too narrow.

The less redistributed the income - last I heard  (that Critical Mass book) - the more we can expect it to resemble a power-law relationship, with a very few very rich and a very many very poor at the bottom. 

Whether that&#039;s absolute poverty or not I couldn&#039;t say, but relative poverty is trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you ignore the value judgments, I would observe that the base is far too narrow.</p>
<p>The less redistributed the income &#8211; last I heard  (that Critical Mass book) &#8211; the more we can expect it to resemble a power-law relationship, with a very few very rich and a very many very poor at the bottom. </p>
<p>Whether that&#8217;s absolute poverty or not I couldn&#8217;t say, but relative poverty is trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: d_b</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283838</link>
		<dc:creator>d_b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillipjohn - I resent your statement.

Hell, I&#039;m a hard working middle-class man with a wife and two kids. We&#039;re a one-income family paying a mortgage in South Auckland. 
I earn enough that I get nothing from the government, but I only earn enough to just keep our heads above water.

I&#039;m sorry mate, but SUVs, golf clubs and eating at cafes are in some other world - certainly not my world or the world of the other middle-class Kiwis I know.

Not that I expect - or even want - handouts, but the government certainly makes it easier for those less hard-working/motivated than myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillipjohn &#8211; I resent your statement.</p>
<p>Hell, I&#8217;m a hard working middle-class man with a wife and two kids. We&#8217;re a one-income family paying a mortgage in South Auckland.<br />
I earn enough that I get nothing from the government, but I only earn enough to just keep our heads above water.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry mate, but SUVs, golf clubs and eating at cafes are in some other world &#8211; certainly not my world or the world of the other middle-class Kiwis I know.</p>
<p>Not that I expect &#8211; or even want &#8211; handouts, but the government certainly makes it easier for those less hard-working/motivated than myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Murray</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283837</link>
		<dc:creator>Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 19:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The socialist one is upside down and the top is full of DPB&#039;s, special interest groups and &quot;sickness beneficiaries&quot; with Cullen on their shoulders.

&quot;We bleed you&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The socialist one is upside down and the top is full of DPB&#8217;s, special interest groups and &#8220;sickness beneficiaries&#8221; with Cullen on their shoulders.</p>
<p>&#8220;We bleed you&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 12:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phillipjohn, those are people who perhaps deserve to be on the benefit. But not the losers who sit on their arses all day because they&#039;re too lazy to work, while the rest of us work our arses off to pay our taxes, to pay the lazy bastards who are to lazy to do the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillipjohn, those are people who perhaps deserve to be on the benefit. But not the losers who sit on their arses all day because they&#8217;re too lazy to work, while the rest of us work our arses off to pay our taxes, to pay the lazy bastards who are to lazy to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: phillipjohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>phillipjohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 10:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes sideshow, all those dastardly cunning solo mums and people with chronic fatigue syndrome, spinal injury sufferers in their great conspiracy to dominate and control the honest golf playing SUV drivers who suffer a horrible existance in the cafe scene of suburban New Zealand. It&#039;s enough to make my very soul weep like the nile in flood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes sideshow, all those dastardly cunning solo mums and people with chronic fatigue syndrome, spinal injury sufferers in their great conspiracy to dominate and control the honest golf playing SUV drivers who suffer a horrible existance in the cafe scene of suburban New Zealand. It&#8217;s enough to make my very soul weep like the nile in flood.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283834</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious, top left corner, for $1pa you subscribe to this fine organ to learn all about the perils of “capitalism.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious, top left corner, for $1pa you subscribe to this fine organ to learn all about the perils of “capitalism.”</p>
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		<title>By: phil u</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283833</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no redbaiter..

the only posters i have are totally retro..

one of bob dylan..one of jimi hendrix..(both black and white..)

and one of the treaty of waitangi..(in a nice &#039;green&#039; colour..)

the &#039;oppression layer-cake&#039; wil go nicely with those..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no redbaiter..</p>
<p>the only posters i have are totally retro..</p>
<p>one of bob dylan..one of jimi hendrix..(both black and white..)</p>
<p>and one of the treaty of waitangi..(in a nice &#8216;green&#8217; colour..)</p>
<p>the &#8216;oppression layer-cake&#8217; wil go nicely with those..eh..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: phil u</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283832</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 08:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no redbaiter..

the only posters i have are totally retro..

one of bob dylan..one of jimi hendrix..(both black and white..)

and one of the treaty of waitangi..(in a nice &#039;green&#039; colour..

the &#039;oppression layer-cake&#039; wil go nicely with those..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no redbaiter..</p>
<p>the only posters i have are totally retro..</p>
<p>one of bob dylan..one of jimi hendrix..(both black and white..)</p>
<p>and one of the treaty of waitangi..(in a nice &#8216;green&#8217; colour..</p>
<p>the &#8216;oppression layer-cake&#8217; wil go nicely with those..eh..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283831</link>
		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 07:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad thing is...

the lefties believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing is&#8230;</p>
<p>the lefties believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: side show bob</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283830</link>
		<dc:creator>side show bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much like the socialist pyramid I would suggest.

 At the top we have Dear Leader and fellow henchmen, oops sorry, henchwomen (We tell you how it is to be ).

 Next level university academics and leftwing political commentators( We tell you how it should be ).

 Next level, not the army but the parasites that call themselves bureaucrats ( Not we will shoot you but we will screw you ).

Next level, this countrys beneficiaries ( Not we eat for you but we eat because of you ).

And at the bottom, yes us poor losers who pay the bills. Not much has changed, same shit different time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much like the socialist pyramid I would suggest.</p>
<p> At the top we have Dear Leader and fellow henchmen, oops sorry, henchwomen (We tell you how it is to be ).</p>
<p> Next level university academics and leftwing political commentators( We tell you how it should be ).</p>
<p> Next level, not the army but the parasites that call themselves bureaucrats ( Not we will shoot you but we will screw you ).</p>
<p>Next level, this countrys beneficiaries ( Not we eat for you but we eat because of you ).</p>
<p>And at the bottom, yes us poor losers who pay the bills. Not much has changed, same shit different time.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you are against the system of privilege phil...? So are capitalists. It can only exist with the backing of the States gun...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you are against the system of privilege phil&#8230;? So are capitalists. It can only exist with the backing of the States gun&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283828</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That poster is so true... the pigs on the top layers living off the skin of the bottom. tru that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That poster is so true&#8230; the pigs on the top layers living off the skin of the bottom. tru that.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283827</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised you&#039;d have room for another poster Phil.. what with Che, and Mao, and Joe Stalin and Karl and Fidel, can&#039;t be much wall space left..!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised you&#8217;d have room for another poster Phil.. what with Che, and Mao, and Joe Stalin and Karl and Fidel, can&#8217;t be much wall space left..!!!</p>
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		<title>By: phil u</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/02/the_capitalism_pyramid_scheme.html#comment-283826</link>
		<dc:creator>phil u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 06:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you could send me one please..george..

i&#039;ll throw it up on my wall too...

but for different reasons than d.p.f...eh..?

for me it&#039;s an affirmation of realities/ongoing battles..

for d.p.f. it is inequities/injustices to gloat over..

but that&#039;s the right/national for you.. 

b.t.w...which layer do you see yourself on david..?

usually the eaters..?

occaisonally working in &#039;we fool you&#039;..?

with definite aspirations to &#039;we rule you&#039;..?

that&#039;s pretty much it..eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you could send me one please..george..</p>
<p>i&#8217;ll throw it up on my wall too&#8230;</p>
<p>but for different reasons than d.p.f&#8230;eh..?</p>
<p>for me it&#8217;s an affirmation of realities/ongoing battles..</p>
<p>for d.p.f. it is inequities/injustices to gloat over..</p>
<p>but that&#8217;s the right/national for you.. </p>
<p>b.t.w&#8230;which layer do you see yourself on david..?</p>
<p>usually the eaters..?</p>
<p>occaisonally working in &#8216;we fool you&#8217;..?</p>
<p>with definite aspirations to &#8216;we rule you&#8217;..?</p>
<p>that&#8217;s pretty much it..eh..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: George Darroch</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Darroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 05:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can send you a copy ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can send you a copy <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: George Darroch</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Darroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Feb 2007 04:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can send you a copy ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can send you a copy <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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