Cullen vs Key
March 30th, 2007 at 4:50 pm by David FarrarVery interesting observations by Transtasman on Dr Cullen dealing with John Key. To quote them:
Much of the economic debate across Parliament’s chamber is still conducted between Finance Minister Michael Cullen and National’s leader, John Key, rather than between Cullen and his National counterpart, Bill English. It has been fascinating to watch, because there is something about Key which really gets under Cullen’s skin. Usually the Finance Minister can be relied upon to be witty and nasty, but most of the time has a sort of inbuilt acidity regulator which keeps the nastiness under control. When he gets stuck into Key, though, it is pure bile and very little wit, such as describing him as a “working class scab” when he became leader.
and later on:
Part of the bile could be just frustration. Labour has not yet worked out how to deal with Key. They played the envy card hard initially, emphasising the National leader’s wealth. This appealed to Labour’s visceral supporters, but made little dent on other voters. There must be a Plan B coming somewhere.
Oh there will be a Plan C, Plan D, Plan E I am sure.
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March 30th, 2007 at 9:33 pm
Perhaps Key riles Cullen because it is simple nervous self-consciousness. Cullen is a career politician with a PhD in history, whereas Key has actually done a bit of practical business in the area of the Honourable member’s portfolio.
No different from “The Castle” lawyer Denis Denuto suddenly stricken in front of real legal high-flyers.
Vote:March 30th, 2007 at 9:35 pm
Perhaps Key riles Cullen because it is simple nervous self-consciousness. Cullen is a career politician with a PhD in history, whereas Key has actually done a bit of practical business in the area of the Honourable member’s portfolio.
No different from “The Castle” lawyer Denis Denuto suddenly stricken in front of real legal high-flyers.
Vote:March 30th, 2007 at 9:36 pm
Give that man Greg Bourke a cigar !
Vote:March 30th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
It’s just the vibe.
Vote:March 30th, 2007 at 10:11 pm
With a leader like Clark, somone in the Labour front bench has to be the Bitch, obviously Cullin put his hand up!
Vote:March 30th, 2007 at 10:28 pm
Simple explanation….Communism vs capitalism
Vote:March 30th, 2007 at 10:44 pm
what an absolute load of cobblers..!
i live-blog each questiontime..
what debate across the chamber..?
key has asked a total of ten questions since he became leader of national..(!)
as i said..what debate..?
is this transtasman inhabiting a parrallel universe..?
one in which key is an effective political leader in parliament..?
and questiontime is notable for clark and cullen taking turns in batting key about..
which would possibly explain why he is rarely there..eh..?
it’s just an exercise in ongoing humiliation for him..
any ‘debates/exchange..
eh..?
as i said..absolute cobblers..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:March 30th, 2007 at 10:46 pm
Cullen is well past his use-by date. His comment lauding taxpayer funding of circa $100,000 for some bloke to study bogans, is just extraordinary.
Vote:March 30th, 2007 at 11:18 pm
Cullen is a hopeless hackademic and working class English scum to boot. It’s no surprise that a Jew with a clue puts the shits up him. Jews know how to spend money and how to make it. They certainly don’t waste it on bullshit for no good reason.
Middle lower class english scum like Cullen only know how to bully money out of the rest of us to feather their own nest.
Go home you utter git. Take your high tax, massive govt fiscal policies with you.
Give a Jew the treasury benches and lets get this country rockin like Israel.
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 3:16 am
Imagine, have nightmares perhaps, can you see Cullen in an interview post the 2009 budget.
No no no, you have it all wrong, the new housing tax that hicks in when you have more than 40m of properties is not a key tax policy, I jokingly called it the tax Key policy once but that was supposed to be off the record. Got him with the retrospective implementation though, eat that big boy.
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 5:43 am
Cullen is rapidly becoming a mutation – as his caustic wit is overflowing and saturating his worried brain. This is causing much embarrassment – as his acid like comments clearly show advanced corrosion of the grey matter. I would love the chance to debate with the tosser and he could wipe away his tears with his PhD in History . The deluded utopian people would say – who let the dogs out. Go for the jugular John Key and show strong leadership and don’t ease up on the socialist scum as really they are all pretty dumb , look at thicko’s like Sonic,Redrag Phil U , Jordan Carter and Tony Milne- the internet propanganda shrill puppets for maggot supreme leader , say no more , no contest – socialists out -common sense in .I hope they can find some communists with a brain a bit bigger than a carraway seed otherwise I will have to argue with the blue team of wise people – lol .
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 6:31 am
John and dad4justice are absolutely right.
Send that pommie git working class trash back home to Pomgolia.
One way ticket.
Forbidden to return.
Assholes!
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 7:45 am
Key has the same answer to everything. If you listen to his soundbites ( to call them speeches would be an affront any high school debater) there is the same platitudes strung together as high class gibeerish.
National has gone from a leader ( remember him?) who could tell no lies and was finally undone by a lack of integrity to a new leader who who spouts spin as economic policy, is evasive in any questions about his religious beliefs, and relies on Bill English to provide any sort of real policy.
Vote:Can you see how the train wreck will cccur on this one.
March 31st, 2007 at 8:08 am
It’s called ‘the arrogance of power’. Seriously, though, Cullen is losing it. He is becoming increasingly ascerbic and rude – a slightly older version of Maharey.
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 8:43 am
There is a simple explanation.
Key has personality and a certain amount of charisma.
Cullen and his cohorts have cynicism, envy and sarcasm. When under pressure these inevitably over ride the wit which can only be used when in the asendency.
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 9:36 am
pdm said..
“..Key has personality and a certain amount of charisma.
Cullen and his cohorts have cynicism, envy and sarcasm…”
priceless..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 10:14 am
phil U,
What Key has is the advantage of a proven worth and as yet, a history of personal integrity.
What Helen and Cullen have demonstrates intelligence, an income unrelated to results and a history that displays doubtful personal integrity.
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 11:19 am
um..lets look at your claim of ‘a history of personal integrity’..around the key..
shall we..?
now..i know it’s perfectly legal..
but ‘money-traders’..(remember jesus and the temple..?..).
are really..in the global scheme of things..
are nothing but leeches..eh..?
sucking out money/energy..
playing ‘god’ with countries’ economies/peoples..
and contributing nothing…
so..y’know..if i were you..
i’d taiho a bit there..
on banging that ‘personal integrity’ drum..
eh..?
(it’s a bit out tune..eh..?..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 11:26 am
Let’s see how Keys’ goes when we get down to the pointy end of the next election. He might then have some policies that he has to articulate and then the blowtorch will show how good he is.
Vote:It’s so nice to see all the National supporters praying and hoping like hell that John Keyscane pull them out of the mire of political obscurity.
Roll on the 2009 election.
March 31st, 2007 at 11:26 am
Let’s see how Keys’ goes when we get down to the pointy end of the next election. He might then have some policies that he has to articulate and then the blowtorch will show how good he is.
Vote:It’s so nice to see all the National supporters praying and hoping like hell that John Keyscane pull them out of the mire of political obscurity.
Roll on the 2008 election.
March 31st, 2007 at 12:21 pm
Key has charisma?!
Courtesy of Spareroom I just watched the video of that excreable interview he gave at the function in Auckland aimed at encouraging young people to support National.
Alright the woman interviewing him has the brain of an amoeba and a personality to match (I see NZ is continuing it’s proud tradition of giving nobodies with ‘personality’ a go on TV) but he should have figured out he’d get some questions on youth culture at such an event.
I’d have advised him to say “Listen you daft girl, I’m the Leader of the Opposition not a skateboarder you’re hoping to snog, and I’m here because I want to communicate with young people, not pretend I am one”. He’d have won points for honesty at least.
I know there ought to me to successful political leadership than charisma, but you need it to win hearts and minds as opposed to scorn.
From what I can see from outside NZ looking in, you’re faced with a vote between a dictator and a dimwit.
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 3:27 pm
Dictator wins every time.
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 3:58 pm
Phil I suggest you read hansard. Key has asked a volley of questions and many of them rather good. Don’t just focus on the “has you got confidence in xyz” the real questions are in the supplementaries.
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 4:23 pm
i don’t need to read hansard tim..
i am there every questiontime..live-blogging it…
and not just printing/recording the words (c.f…hansard).
but trying to read the tones/timbes/moods/subtexts of the place/participants..
and i tell ya..
as it was last year..so it is this year..
key is utterly lame in the parlamentary forum…
and is just played with/openly laughed at..by clark/cullen..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 4:44 pm
Something like the way you are laughed at here phil?
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 5:32 pm
What drugs are we on today Phil ?
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 6:04 pm
Don’t think so Phil, look at Hansard, but if you have trouble reading go back and look at the replays either Radio New Zealand or TVNZ. Nothing lame about those performances. She on the other hand with her sour looks and smart alec remarks. It is all getting a bit thin. The luckiest Government in recent history on the economy.
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 7:08 pm
always just the two..d4j..
the magic ‘erb..and black tea..
my needs are simple..
i’ve managed to wrestle it down from a veritable grab-bag…
of (almost) anything and everything..
to just those two..
(black tea will be the next to go…)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 7:17 pm
george…who..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 7:19 pm
Hey Phil – What is a bogey policeman’s main duty ? To maintain Law and Odour . You stink , what psych ward are in again?
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 7:27 pm
you really should try self-medicating..d4j…
skin-up and chill-out..
you must need a rest/a bit of a break by now..?..surely..?
or..are you still drinking..?..the cause of all your problems..?
the piss…?
that’s your poison..eh d4j..?
and you’d be a real mean/nasty drunk..eh..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Below the beat that Phil .
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 7:35 pm
i guess those who live in drug-glasshouses shouldn’t throw stones..eh..?…d4j..?
(‘stones’..get it..?..)
get off the piss..eh d4j..?
believe me..i’ve used them all..
and i reckon alcohol is perhaps the worst..
(up there with speed..for really fucking people/lives up..)
go to the ‘umble ‘erb..mon..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 7:37 pm
I don’t drink Phil
Vote:March 31st, 2007 at 7:58 pm
right..(it’s a process of elimination..)
have you tried st johns’ wort..?
it works..as a ‘buffer’..as in buffering your edges…
it takes a week or so to kick in..
but it does work..
but..like anything..just make sure you buy/get the best..eh..?
i actually think that rather than handing out a mix and match of anti-depressants..ssri’s..etc etc..
doctors should be able to hand out/prescribe that mix of weed and st johns’..
in germany..st johns wort is the most prescribed by doctors..for mild depression/edginess etc..
and unlike all that crap peddled by drug companies..
st johns’ wort is not addictive..
so..no with drawal symptoms..when you decide you don’t need it any more..
and if you know anyone trying to get off anything..
they should be taking industrial strength doses of st johns wort..
(even trying to get off ciggies.eh..?
and can i just disabuse that excuse often parroted by smokers..
that nicotine is harder to get off than heroin..
on a scale of 1-10…with 10 being mega-bad..
heroin is at 8..
tobacco is at 2…
(this has been a public-service announcment..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:April 1st, 2007 at 11:12 am
Public service announcement.
Labour apologist pot heads with their messed up minds inside their fucked up heads which are up their own asses are not worth getting into debate with.
Phil, if pot is the ‘chill out’ drug that you claim it is, why are you always so worked up and frothing while defending the indefensible corrupt election thief’s.
On second thought… (eh)
(perhaps not) but then it could be…
worthy of some… just a little bit of.. nah (?)
its a lost (…) eh – cause.
Vote:April 1st, 2007 at 3:09 pm
“..messed up mind’ inside “fucked up head”..?..hmm!!..debatable…that one..
and “asses”..?..i don’t own any asses…nor horses..nor ponies..
‘..labour apologist’..?…you haven’t been paying attention..?..have you..?
“..worked up and frothing..”..?…hardly darling…
that’s muzza and whaleblubber and d4j..and all those other nutbars..
they do the frothing for all of us..
aside from that..you’re right on the money..!
eh..?..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:April 2nd, 2007 at 2:09 am
To phil, would you like to come out to the country ?We will look after you. You are invited to tell the fools around here why we are so thick and the left is our only hope. This is a honenst invite and I pormise we will treat you with respect and your views will be consider plus we will look after you. If the weather is good we can we take you out game fishing and if not there is always home made wine.
Vote:April 2nd, 2007 at 4:17 am
now..what would young bart say to an offer to go ‘deep-sea fishing’..?
from sideshow bob…?
“aye caramba..!”
(what’s your boat called..?..”the soprano’.?…whoar..!..)
(“..whatever happened to phil..?..”
“..he sleeps with the kawhai..”..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:April 7th, 2007 at 9:28 pm
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Vote:August 8th, 2007 at 3:55 am
Phil I suggest you read hansard. Key has asked a volley of questions and many of them rather good. Don’t just focus on the “has you got confidence in xyz” the real questions are in the supplementaries.
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