NZ Herald on Holmes

March 17th, 2007 at 10:40 am by David Farrar

I agree with the NZ Herald editorial on Paul Holmes that it is quite incredible that for over a decade Holmes did the country’s leading early morning radio and evening television programmes on the same day, every day.

I also agree that his radio legacy is his better one. I think Holmes is a natural on his radio show, and the ratings have reflected that. His TV show annoyed me somewhat. It was very good at light news and entertainment but wasn’t a hard news show, yet got portrayed as one.

Of late Holmes has also been doing newspaper features, specifically interviews with high profile NZers. He seems to have quite an ability to get subjects to open up, and I’m enjoying the series, I almost find them a must read.

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35 Responses to “NZ Herald on Holmes”

  1. Redbaiter () says:

    Paul Holmes has always been a bitter disappointment to me. When so much was going on that the media and a person in such an influential position could have spoken out on, Holmes kept silent and kept advocating for big government socialism/ racism. (leaving aside the aberrational cheeky darky episode)

    Was this because he was a socialist by nature or was this because he knew he’d probably lose his cushy over paid position if he did speak out? I would guess a combination of both.

    The latter part of the last century will go down in history as a time when the media failed the people in so many ways, and Paul Holmes IMHO will be remembered as one who (in NZ) perhaps failed them the most.

    Long gone is the green visor wearing crusty old editor working at his presses late into the night to get out a story challenging the latest edict from city hall. He’s been replaced by pro-government sycophants getting paid big bucks by so called ‘state owned enterprises’ not to challenge the socialist line.

    The new guard are a bunch of self promoting advocates for big government, too comfy or too yellow to dare rock the boat, or risk their position by taking the kind of stand the old time editors were known for.

    I’m glad Holmes is gone from Newstalk ZB too. Leaving the above criticism aside, I also found his childlike Hollywood fixation utterly insufferable. Sadly, his replacement is no improvement. Hosking is IMHO just another gutless socialist appeaser without a real clue. Where’s NZ’s Rush Limbaugh???

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  2. Chuck Bird () says:

    He did not get Peter Davis to open up very much.

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  3. Ten Cents () says:

    I occasionally used to listen to his early morning show, flipped over from the all too frequent adds on the Rock while crawling down Tamaki Drive in the morning.

    Paul Holmes, on occasion, can be deliriously funny, he is great at picking up on a point and providing a new, at his best lyrical, spin on that point.

    Thats at his best, of course.

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  4. Scott () says:

    I have never thought of Paul Holmes as a socialist, I have always thought he was a closet Nat. And I thought he made Peter Davies open up to much. I dont want to know if Helen Clark has sex with her husband. Im surprised that he didnt ask who goes on top.

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  5. Fred () says:

    Holmes is a feather duster….

    The real news is that the “Elect Vessel” is in town from Sydney.

    Want to have a beer with his Electness and get a briefing on how you get to the top of the EBs.
    Bet this ‘ol boy can run a meeting.

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  6. phil u () says:

    take a reality-pill..redbaiter..

    holmes may have started his life (sorta) lefty..

    but now..he is well and truely righty..

    (b.t.w…redbaiter..congratulations from vast-left-wing-conspiracy hq….

    for your (very effective) job of work of de-stabilising/white-anting the sir humphry cabal…

    (as we speak..it is falling apart…

    soon it’ll just be adolf heaping abuse on all that moves..

    and uber-censor/contro;-freak al banning/censoring all that demurs/moves the other way…)

    redbaiter..a special ‘service to the proletariat’ medal has been struck for you..

    you will get that when you ‘surface’..

    well done..!..redbaiter..

    you achieved what legions of us overt lefties had/have failed to do..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  7. Adolf Fiinkensein () says:

    phil, I’m pleased to see you admit that most lefties grow up and become righties. Others just belch inane dribble on blogs until the grim reaper comes knocking on their door, if they have one.

    Don’t you worry about Sir Humps. Sir Humps is just fine. Worry about the Greens when the first family of decent parents gets done over by your friends at CYFS or by the police, about six months before election time.

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  8. Fred () says:

    phil sounds eerily familiar.
    Can he get the implanted chips and the secreted cell phone removed at outpatients?

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  9. chris () says:

    Where’s NZ’s Rush Limbaugh???

    Loaded on a pam / misty combo,perhaps.

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  10. phil u () says:

    no adolf..it’s growing old..not growing up..

    and that left-right arc affects most…

    (you remember when you weren’t quite so rabid..?..surely..?)

    i’ve moved from a desire to dismantle/year zero the whole rotton system..

    to a grudging acceptance that there has to be a system..

    you just have to gouge the rot out/re-arrange it….

    so there you go..!..)

    but what concerns me is not crusty/talkback-loop righties like you..adolf

    blathering on at all that moves..eh..?

    you’ve already ridden the ideological pendulum..

    right out to where you are nearly slipping off the end..

    a bit like that ‘ride-the-nuke’ scene in ‘dr strangelove’..eh..?

    no..adolf..

    it’s the young/fresh-faced extreme-righties that concern/worry me..

    (your ashleys….and assorted fellow-travellers..

    them of the grim faces..and the urgent eyes..)

    he and other young fogies are so jammed-up into the right..and at such a young age..too..tsk.!…tsk..!

    that the poor darlings have nowhere to ‘swing’ to..

    blind/chair-biting fascism being about their only option..

    (i mean..he’s already sooo into his uniforms and epaulettes and baublettes..eh..?

    that young ashley..eh..?

    what is he..?

    christian sea-scouts..?..isn’t it..?..

    lots of ‘christian-knotting’ there..eh..?

    (disclaimer:..i went to sea-scouts..once..)

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  11. Mr I.P .Freely () says:

    you guys are Far to serious,Paul H was just PH, why does a novel have to come out of every THROW AWAY reporter.PH isnt and wasnt a oricale.

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  12. tim barclay () says:

    I have a soft spot for Holmsey but he does not do serious very well because of him impish sense of humour. If he did not get Peter Davis to open up much then that tells me there is much that should be kept hidden. If Davis is not an open book it is probably for good reason.

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  13. phil u () says:

    tim..tim..

    why does that concern you..?

    what would you like him to say..?

    a tear-filled confession on 60 minutes that helen regulary straps on accessories..?..and ‘rides’ him..?

    that panty-slut-boy is a regular house guest..?

    what do you want..?

    you back-fence peering/curtain-twitching old gossip..you..

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  14. tim barclay () says:

    Good god phil heaven forbid. But I do feel some things should have been put to him.

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  15. Chuck Bird () says:

    Phil, perhaps he could be asked if he supported his homosexual rights lobbyist friend, Ron Paterson who contributed to his book on HIV. Paterson was invited to write a chapter for Davis’ book about HIV in New Zealand. In that chapter Paterson stated.

    “Regrettably, Parliament did not see fit to subject government activities to the same code of behaviour, at least for the time being. Section 151(2), which expires on 31 December 1999, states that ‘[e]xcept as otherwise expressly provided in [the Human Rights Act], nothing in this Act relating to [s 21(1) prohibited grounds of discrimination (h)-(m)1 shall affect anything done by or on behalf of the Government of New Zealand’. It is to be hoped that this exemption not be read as protecting a crown health enterprise which sought to discriminate in its provision of services to HIV-positive people (Paterson & Rishworth, 1996: 37-56). Section 153(3)(a) officially exempts any government policy or administrative practice relating to immigration from the requirements of the Act. This would allow the Immigration Service to introduce mandatory HIV testing, and to refuse entry to those who test positive, ‘without fear of falling foul of the Human Rights Act. Both these provisions are lamentable and should be repealed at the earliest opportunity.”

    Soon after Labour came to power the policy for screening immigrants for HIV was changed. It has only changed bask recently due to public pressure. If the rumours about Davis’ sexual preference are true that is one thing. If the rumours are true AND he has been able to influence government policy and even legislation that is quite another matter and the public have a right to know.

    He could also be asked if he was the editor of a homosexual newspaper while a university. The may be just rumour but if it is I was told the by a Member of Parliament who will remain nameless.

    I vaguely recall hearing something about the public toilet in Hagley Park Christchurch. I sure it will come to me.

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  16. phil u () says:

    chuck..

    are you the chuck bird who was known as chucky..(or chuckles)

    who used to take all-comers at those notorious underground loos in customs st ak..?

    ‘ i sure it will come to me’..

    (see how easy it is..?..chucky darling..)

    (the boys say..’hi..’.)

    eh..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  17. Mr I.P .Freely () says:

    It nasty what you lot say about peter davis, and(those rumours)Hell i think a blow up doll,makes a great teddy bear for helen,no sex, no kids.and hell you can smack the living shit out of it,and not appear on the CYFS site.(peter davis,and public toilets)it gets beter, MORE info(so its not all sex and helen,tonight)scandle

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  18. Chuck Bird () says:

    Phil, you are talking a lot of shit as usual. You should make sure your homosexual mates wash thier dicks before you give them a blow job.

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  19. phil u () says:

    very ‘faecelly-focused’..

    aren’t you darling..?

    did you/do you have toilet-training ‘issues’..?

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  20. phil u () says:

    oh well.

    .i’m off to see those ageing/grizzled dunedin-sound pioneers..

    ‘the clean’..

    toodle-pip chucky..

    “..and he’s a beatnik..”

    (so..i’ll just leave you to your fevered imagination..eh..?..)

    just make sure you have a box of tissues handy/ready..eh..?

    before you get started..?

    y’know..!

    phil(whoar.co.nz)

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  21. tim barclay () says:

    I think Holmsey did miss an opportunity. He should have put some of this ugly stuff to Davis and give him a chance to clear his name. Instead he steps around it and we are left wondering. Davis seems to be such a nice guy so he sould have been able to clear his name.

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  22. Paul Marsden () says:

    Am I the only one, but there’s something really weird about this announcement. I mean really, this is supposedly going to happen at end of 2008. You might announce such a change say 3-4 months prior to it, but nearly 2 years out!!??. Nah! Something’s aint right…

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  23. Fred () says:

    Errr….thought Holmes had prostate cancer?…puffy appearance would be accounted for by hormone treatment.

    Smelling some roses maybe.

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  24. dad4justice () says:

    Yeah Chuck, Holmes didn’t really open Peter Davis up, to do that, he would need a couple of D11 caterpillar bulldozers to haul the secrets outer his dark closet. I know the old Hagley Park thingy has cost the taxpayer plenty as Paul T has two permanent security guards with him 24/7 living in the special house that the ministry of injustice built for him. I wonder if that is the norm ?

    Silly me – it did not happen – yeah right – talk about a story – must go Sandra M is not a happy girlie hence blog attack article – I like walking the dog in Hagley Park and you just never know who you might bump into eh ?

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  25. Redbaiter () says:

    “Instead he steps around it and we are left wondering.”

    Dead right, as he’s always stepped around anything that might have confronted pseudo liberal thinking. He’s a washout, a gutless leftist sycophant who rather than chase the real story, has always done everything he can to suck up to the secular progressives who have kept his pockets lined.

    He’s also one of those propagandists who have in self interest helped perpetuate the myth that NZ broadcasters should be receiving salaries the equal of popular broadcasters in the US(for example). Consequently, until he fell out with them, his management cronies at TV One paid him about 700 times what he was really worth. Of course they didn’t mind. The more Holmes was paid, the more it justified their own inflated salaries.

    It could only happen in the highly politicised situation of an SOE where cronyism and political favouritism takes precedence over effective commercial management. That Prime went along with this scam was an amazement. That Holmes would fail out of the heritage slot he occupied at TV One was always a given. (That the guy who hired him no longer works at Prime is no surprise.)

    In US television broadcasting, a wart that size with the ugly Paul Holmes attached to it wouldn’t even get to a job interview, let alone command the salary Holmes was paid by TV One (or Prime). Look at Bailey, Worth etc. Where are they now that they’ve parted company with their fellow socialist cronyists. Working for big bucks in the US?? Like hell they are. What a damn scam that whole scene was.

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  26. thehawk () says:

    Holmes is occasionally very funny. Much more frequently he is an awful sycophant with a speech impediment requiring sometimes five repetitions of a word or even a whole sentence. Larry Williams is far better at the hard interview though doesn’t do so well compared to Holmes “idiot clown” act.
    Move on NZ. How many times do I have to hear that he is leaving before he actually goes? Ugh.

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  27. Rex Widerstrom () says:

    I’ve hosted a news / talk breakfast show (albeit on underfunded Radio Pacific, where my producer was only paid for the time the show was on air, not to arrange anything for the next day, thus leaving Derek Lowe and Brent Impey enough cash to renew the Jags each financial year). It’s incredibly taxing.

    There are aspects of Paul’s style I didn’t like, particularly a lack of depth to many interviews. His work as a print journalist late in his career suggests perhaps he has a talent for that which couldn’t flourish in the NZ electronic media.

    Time is always the enemy on radio, while TVNZ’s determined drive for the lowest common denominator was what drove the TV show.

    His radio show, remember, took over from the beloved Merv Smith, and initially the ZB audience wanted to burn Holmes at the stake. That the brand now walks all over pale imitations like “Radio Dead” (sorry, Live) is testament to Paul’s ability as a radio broadcaster. He kept going under incredible flak and created the Newstalk ZB brand almost singlehanded.

    As someone who’s been there done that I acknowledge he not only paved the way but set standards to which the rest of us could aspire in terms of entertaining as well as informing.

    People criticise “Holmes” (the TV programme) without looking at what the rest of the world gets served up. In Australia “Today Tomight” and “A Current Affair” have two staple stories: “Weight loss miracle” and “Dodgy landlord / tenant / plumber / used car dealer et al”. Plus the occasional “Which is the best detergent / supermarket / weight loss miracle cure”.

    With political crises gripping the nation (two Ministerial resignations in the past few weeks) they never deviate from the formula, guaranteed to keep the low IQ audience chewing it’s food, mouths open, staring at the TV. One show is then followed by a soapie while the other leads into a game show – same audience.

    I don’t know Paul well but I do know some of the people that produced him and that they had a constant battle to make it a decent current affairs show and were constantly forced to compromise and “dumb down” what they were doing.

    I too wondered why, at the height of his popularity and perceived earning power for TVNZ, he didn’t put his foot down and insist he was no longer going to be the court jester. Perhaps he simply realised that the audience for serious current affairs has shrunk so small (and migrated to the internet in frustration) that it was too late.

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  28. mara () says:

    Whew…I didn’t realise anyone took him so seriously.He is just a handsomely paid entertainer after all.

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  29. Redbaiter () says:

    Actually he’s an overpaid flop, and as for taking him seriously, there’s no need to do so if you don’t wich to, however the fact remains that media liberals (esopecuially in th eposition Hiolme sis in) have a big influence on politics in NZ. In fact, I reckon John Key thinks they’re more important than the actual voters.

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