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	<title>Comments on: The Role of Government</title>
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		<title>By: mavxp</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/the_role_of_government.html#comment-299604</link>
		<dc:creator>mavxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No it just shows that the survey was stupid. It was a wish list not grounded much in reality.

&quot;The Gummint should do everything, and only the rich ought to pay for it in taxes. Oh and if I have to pay some tax, its not going to those damn dole bludgers.&quot;

-yeah right. 

If the questions were phrased as a balance between paying more taxes and having the government spend those taxes on more social services, then I suspect those answers would be completely different.






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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No it just shows that the survey was stupid. It was a wish list not grounded much in reality.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Gummint should do everything, and only the rich ought to pay for it in taxes. Oh and if I have to pay some tax, its not going to those damn dole bludgers.&#8221;</p>
<p>-yeah right. </p>
<p>If the questions were phrased as a balance between paying more taxes and having the government spend those taxes on more social services, then I suspect those answers would be completely different.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/the_role_of_government.html#comment-299603</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 08:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Providing housing for those that need it&quot;...

Surprise, you have to work for it.

My spare cash is for me going fishing in Alaska......not to buy you a house.

So go and fuck your Rottweiler.

Dumbarse free associating socialists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Providing housing for those that need it&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Surprise, you have to work for it.</p>
<p>My spare cash is for me going fishing in Alaska&#8230;&#8230;not to buy you a house.</p>
<p>So go and fuck your Rottweiler.</p>
<p>Dumbarse free associating socialists.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/the_role_of_government.html#comment-299602</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 07:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a deeply grey drone socialist state is NZ. 


Enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a deeply grey drone socialist state is NZ. </p>
<p>Enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Porcupine</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/the_role_of_government.html#comment-299601</link>
		<dc:creator>Porcupine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a better indicator of public sentiment than a general election where people are forced to choose between several poor package deals.

I agree with Bernard - the Massey wets were to PC to include maintaining law and order - but its a good indication all the same that the public is sick of unrestrained government spening so hat tip to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a better indicator of public sentiment than a general election where people are forced to choose between several poor package deals.</p>
<p>I agree with Bernard &#8211; the Massey wets were to PC to include maintaining law and order &#8211; but its a good indication all the same that the public is sick of unrestrained government spening so hat tip to them.</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/the_role_of_government.html#comment-299600</link>
		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO The only role for gumint is to defend the shores deliver the mail and get the hell out of my life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO The only role for gumint is to defend the shores deliver the mail and get the hell out of my life.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Donnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmm.  I&#039;d have thought that the only certain roles of Government should be:

* Maintain national registers of citizens (births, deaths, marriages + the passport system)
* Maintain the justice system (legislation, courts, police, prisons)
* Protect the nation from external threats (defence, customs)
* Raise taxes &amp; duties to fund those activities

Those are things that only the Government should be responsible for (okay, maybe with privately-operated prisons).

Everything else should be something we weigh up in terms of who is the best and most appropriate provider.  Are they all really the Government&#039;s job?

But I guess what this survey shows is that the vast majority of voters who respond to Massey University surveys think the Government should provide a very comprehensive security blanket.

The pity to me is that those voters then think that taxes are too high (oh, apart from on &quot;the rich&quot;).  Am I the only one who wishes we could have a bit more critical thinking and debate on this rather than just slogans and vilification?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm.  I&#8217;d have thought that the only certain roles of Government should be:</p>
<p>* Maintain national registers of citizens (births, deaths, marriages + the passport system)<br />
* Maintain the justice system (legislation, courts, police, prisons)<br />
* Protect the nation from external threats (defence, customs)<br />
* Raise taxes &#038; duties to fund those activities</p>
<p>Those are things that only the Government should be responsible for (okay, maybe with privately-operated prisons).</p>
<p>Everything else should be something we weigh up in terms of who is the best and most appropriate provider.  Are they all really the Government&#8217;s job?</p>
<p>But I guess what this survey shows is that the vast majority of voters who respond to Massey University surveys think the Government should provide a very comprehensive security blanket.</p>
<p>The pity to me is that those voters then think that taxes are too high (oh, apart from on &#8220;the rich&#8221;).  Am I the only one who wishes we could have a bit more critical thinking and debate on this rather than just slogans and vilification?</p>
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		<title>By: Horace</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/the_role_of_government.html#comment-299598</link>
		<dc:creator>Horace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 20:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is only one survey that counts:  The next General Election.

The parties decide the questions of the survey and you tick two boxes in reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is only one survey that counts:  The next General Election.</p>
<p>The parties decide the questions of the survey and you tick two boxes in reply.</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Locking up criminals , yeah right - where ? as all prisons and police cells are overflowing with delinquents and the criminal legal status is set to drop to 12 years old - go pizza kid !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Locking up criminals , yeah right &#8211; where ? as all prisons and police cells are overflowing with delinquents and the criminal legal status is set to drop to 12 years old &#8211; go pizza kid !!</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Darnton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard Darnton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So nothing about locking up criminals then? - the one thing the government should actually be doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So nothing about locking up criminals then? &#8211; the one thing the government should actually be doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Darnton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard Darnton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So nothing about locking up criminals then? - the one thing the government should actually be doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So nothing about locking up criminals then? &#8211; the one thing the government should actually be doing.</p>
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		<title>By: side show bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>side show bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably because middle income earners pay for just about everything John and this includes the thousands that are lucky enough to now be consider rich and get to pay just a bit extra. But hey why not just give it all to the theiving  socialists after all they know how spend it don&#039;t they John, tosser!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably because middle income earners pay for just about everything John and this includes the thousands that are lucky enough to now be consider rich and get to pay just a bit extra. But hey why not just give it all to the theiving  socialists after all they know how spend it don&#8217;t they John, tosser!</p>
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		<title>By: John Dalley</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/the_role_of_government.html#comment-299593</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dalley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see the &quot;Middle Incomers&quot; are greedy enough to want everything and still expect tax cuts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see the &#8220;Middle Incomers&#8221; are greedy enough to want everything and still expect tax cuts</p>
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		<title>By: John Dalley</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Dalley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 11:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to see the &quot;Middle Incomers&quot; are greedy enough to want everything and still expect tax cuts</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see the &#8220;Middle Incomers&#8221; are greedy enough to want everything and still expect tax cuts</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/04/the_role_of_government.html#comment-299591</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Key results are:

* Provide health care for the sick 98%
* Provide decent standard of living for the old 96%
* Protect the Environment with laws 92%
* Provide industry with help it needs to grow 87%
* Give financial support to low income university students 79%
* Keep prices under control 78%
* Provide housing for those who need it 72%
* Reduce income inequality 50%
* Provide decent standard of living for the unemployed 49%
* Provide a job for everyone who needs one 38%&quot;


Most Kiwis it seems are really really dumb.....sigh.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Key results are:</p>
<p>* Provide health care for the sick 98%<br />
* Provide decent standard of living for the old 96%<br />
* Protect the Environment with laws 92%<br />
* Provide industry with help it needs to grow 87%<br />
* Give financial support to low income university students 79%<br />
* Keep prices under control 78%<br />
* Provide housing for those who need it 72%<br />
* Reduce income inequality 50%<br />
* Provide decent standard of living for the unemployed 49%<br />
* Provide a job for everyone who needs one 38%&#8221;</p>
<p>Most Kiwis it seems are really really dumb&#8230;..sigh.&#8221;</p>
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