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By: Dave Mann

Dave Mann — Mon, 28 May 2007 21:18:42 +0000

Rumpole, your case for binding referenda seems to be a really good solution. I would think that a small country such as ours would be strangled by the red tape of an upper chamber, but binding referenda would certainly be a good way to curb the flagrant excesses of a government bent on ramming through legislation that it knows (or at least suspects) the electorate would reject if they got a chance.

By: Dave Mann

Dave Mann — Mon, 28 May 2007 20:37:57 +0000

Yes Simon g, my thoughts exactly (and rather more eloquently articulated). Thank you.

By: Rumpole

Rumpole — Mon, 28 May 2007 10:46:49 +0000

Craig
Whilst Joe public may not rationalise his uncomfortable feeling of MMP to the extent of the effective appointment of people whom he cannot remove at the ballot box, a return to FPP may not produce a better result and that is what is required. A second chamber elected at the mid point of a parliament with power to block and initiate legislation may be worth a try. Far easier and cheaper would be binding referendums with the bar set at a feasable level say 100,000 signatures. Imagine how it would concentrate the mind if the s59 issue had looked like gathering the required signatures during its debate with the addition of recalling those who voted for it. The point is governments almost always get at odds with the electors over issues that were not visible at the point of voting or which were not policy and some means of effectively consulting the electors on such issues would benefit all. This in no way prevents a party from governing as a referendum call would mainly cause both sides of the argument to be debated and the government could either accpet an unfavourable result as democracy in action or they could resign and request re election with a mandate to repeal.

By: DS

DS — Mon, 28 May 2007 10:11:15 +0000

After factoring in Colmar-Brunton’s inherent National bias (remember the polling company was hideously wrong in September 2005), I think the lead is somewhere in the region of 15-17 percent. Nasty for Labour, but not on the scale of 25 percent.