Once again, straight over your head. Priceless. I shall try once more, although fully expect it to be a waste of my time. Mr Dixon did *NOT* say, by implication or otherwise, that fascism is an extension of conservatism. Not, as in negative. Please take a breath and comprehend that.

Good.

You think that leftists are brainwashed and indoctrinated. That’s fine for you, but in believing that, all I can think of is that you, personally, must be. I believe that people can choose conservatism as a point of view, just as they may choose a more left-wing view. In my case I consider conservatism to be the forces of old and evil, pandering to big Business, as opposed to big Government, and on the side of all that is wrong with the world.

You clearly disagree with my beliefs, but to actually believe it’s because we’re ‘brainwashed’ implies you haven’t the ability to think for yourself about it.

I also am happy to read your abuse, it makes you seem far less intelligent all of a sudden – it’s a poor substitute for actual arguments (as opposed to your fact-less rants), and makes you seem ignorant. You ask for a real debate, and actually come up with sweet fuck all yourself.

More’s the pity. Good day.

Incidentially the proportion of people who read the comments are a very small proportion of those who just read what I say on the main page.

The left today continually deny their direct linkage to fascism, when they above all embrace that philosophy with fervor and zeal. A common example is the SOE, a commercial entity where government is a controlling shareholder. The outcomes are the same as old fashioned fascism, its just that the methods are more sophisticated.

Politically one dimensional ignoramuses like you Matt, preaching your sick ideals on here without even recognising their origins are a sad blight on this country. How do you think Communism comes to a country? Do you think it appears there in the street and then people vote for it? Rather it sneaks in by stealth and deceit, gradually and slowly, and unknowing brainwashed fools like you and Sam Dixon embrace it and propagandise for it without even knowing what you’re doing.

BTW, “scum” and “shallow infantile bore” are not abuse. They are descriptive terms that describe things the way I want to describe them. The tutors who turn our education system into a political gulag and produce socialist zombies like you rather than educated people with the ability to reason and think critically are scum. They are scum because they molest the minds of our young. The graduates they produce are shallow boring fools because they are not educated. They are indoctrinated. Get it you PC dumbarse?

You and your damn “offense”. Here’s some news- Your whole damn thieving immoral political system is massively offensive to me, and you whine on here about a few damn adjectives you CHOOSE TO READ..!!!!. Fuck off and get a real education, then come back and have a real debate.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28134

RedBaiter, you’ve thoroughly and comprehensively missed the point there, to a degree I thought not possible (you come across as an intelligent person, when one cuts through the abuse and empty rhetoric). Sam was making the point that calling you a fascist would not make his argument any stronger.

So, reading your post in that correct context, you’ve agreed with him. Probably the best course of action, as he was saying that a tirade of abuse is not a good way to get a point across, and that in doing so, one will belittle their own argument.

Think about that when you use terms such as “scum”, “shallow ignorant infantile bore”, and such.

When you and your pathetic lot of leftist smear merchants call me or any genuine Conservative a Fascist, all it does it show what brainwashed ignoramuses you are, what feeble minded play things you are to the scum who have indoctrinated you. If you had any idea at all, you would realise tha anyone who advocates for small government and individual freedom cannot be a Fascist. Fascism is a big government concept. Big government is anthema to any true Conservative. Big government is a leftist concept. That makes you and your mates closer to Fascism than any Conservative. Go away you shallow ignorant infantile bore, and come back when you’ve got a clue.

Helen’s actions make a mockery of her claim to accountability and openness in 2000.

I guess we all see what we want to see, to varying degrees, but this is an honest observation. I think the popularity of this site is to do with the debate, as opposed to what DPF has to say.

The other observation is that whenever a good debate is going on, everyone ignores D4J and other people who butt in with unpleasant, offensive remarks, like an ADHD child at a dinner party (no I’m not saying for one second he is one – it’s an analogy that comes to mind) and continues talking to each other like adults. It’s very refreshing, when rational, logical people from both sides can argue and such – I have learnt a lot lately (from both sides).

On topic – glad the police have decided to prosecute – given what’s floating around, best to have him up for it. If he’s not found guilty, then good. If he is, then even better, corruption has no place in our society.

Once again I’m in agreement with Craig M, the abuse is not one way.

hell, I’ve called Redbaiter a moron more than once.

oh yeah forgot about her, not sure where she sits on the spectrum though (she really doesn’t like D4J eh? Not really the done thing to give someone’s real name)

Our discussion on govt corruption and PF has gone west and the personal attacks are flying.

So who do we blame for the thread hijack today?

Before I jump on my eco friendly plane to head home and fork over my hard earned for a crappy sammich, I just want to say that I hope that PF gets a fair trial and that the government suffers terribly for it’s inept handling of the issue.

Oh & Sam, have a read of Mrs Disgusted posts if you can stomach it ….what an angel she appears to be.

Sonic just said you could be a fake rightie to screw up a conservative blog, not to make it less popular.

makes me wonder what DPF, when he began this little project, thought it would be like on the comments page. I’m guessing he envisioned thoughtful, considered and good natured debate. I doubt he ever thought that the people agreeing with him would one day be calling for MPs to be burned, calling anyone who disagreed with them a socialist, a homo, corrupt etc etc.

- intersting how the tirade of abuse is a one-way street, we don’t call you names. I don’t see what the point in it would be. How would me calling you a fascist everytime you said something right-wing make my arguments any stronger?

For a laugh, I can remember gaining some notoriety when , while working on a roading contract at Otira, I accidently blocked the road using gelignite.Regrettably, the blockage coincided with the visit of the Labour Party Prime Minister Norman Kirk ( I did respect him when I finally met him ) had to go around the long way through the Lewis pass . I laughed and went whitebaiting .

There is a lot of the sadist in this current lot. Just when things were coming right and it was time to stop banging our heads against the wall it was unthinkable for Cullen to allow any sense of relief so he has wired a large proportion of the active population into banging harder and harder.

Propably what has brought about the stupor I referred to earlier.

Nah, not D4J. But Redbaiter… there’s a case to be made. Occasionally he’ll spew something vaguely clever, and he’s obviously enjoying this, so yeah. I’m in the Redbaiter’s fake & feigning idiocy to make the conservatives here (many of whom I rate & respect) look stupid by association.

The loser left as out of touch with reality as they always are. The truth is this blog gets more popular by the day. However, I’m sure its not because of the endless insane patronising preaching of messrs Dixon, PJ et al, all such fervent disciples of the Divine Church of Suckholing Socialists. Waffle waffle waffle…

yeah, that would be quite the scam to pull. You know, I once thought DPF himself might be a leftie in disguise showing how hollow right-wing thought is but I can’t quite credit it that D4J or RB culd be playing a joke on the real righties, eh. Too weird to fake.