12 Mb/sec to all homes in Aussie

June 8th, 2007 at 6:55 am by David Farrar

Broadband is becoming one of the biggest, if not the biggest, issue in Australia for election year.

The Australian reports that John Howard will pledge to deliver a 12megabits-per-second service to all Australian homes.

That’s a huge pledge. The cost would be in the tens of billions I would say.

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17 Responses to “12 Mb/sec to all homes in Aussie”

  1. Fred Says:

    Never all homes …2% live beyond the black stump and will prolly never get more than 1500k via satellite in the forseeable.

    You can pay for 8mb on standard copper lines right now outside the metro. 24mb available in many suburbs in many capital cities on DSLAM.

    Can’t see how I’ll ever need more than 1500k.

    Howard’s gonna win this election …he just doesn’t know it yet.

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  2. ben Says:

    You can pay for 8mb on standard copper lines right now outside the metro. 24mb available in many suburbs in many capital cities on DSLAM.

    Isn’t all DSL supplied via DSLAMs?

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  3. James Says:

    Another socialist making promises with other peoples money……scum bag.

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  4. burt Says:

    Imagine this as Labour party policy in NZ.

    ‘We promise that if you are earning less than (x), have more than (x) children, don’t work full time but do not consume the 20hr’s of free childcare because your are earning over (x) AND/OR you have historic outstanding claims against the Govt AND/OR you are 65 or older – then we will deliver a 1MB link to your door in 2008.

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  5. Fred Says:

    ben….way I understand it is the 8mb is available on standard ADSL…a tweak. What they’re retailing as “24 mb DSLAM” needs modified telephone “exchanges”.
    Ask me about fishing rods instead.

    Don’t fret re Howard’s broadband electioneering….it’ll be merely providing the legislative frame for the telcos to roll out cable etc and the odd subsidy crumbs for the people furthest out.

    This is Aust….the govt doesn’t do what business can.

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  6. Selma the Socialist Dental Nurse Says:

    Howard will lose his seat in the election!
    He will promise a lot more in the next months.

    “We will not stop at just 98per cent coverage, leaving the neediest Australians in rural and regional Australia without a fast and scaleable broadband service,” Senator Coonan said. ”

    Not stop at just 98% ????.( dont say WHEN though)
    Telecom NZ doesnt even provide broadband to small exchanges around Auckland

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  7. burt Says:

    Nothing a fiber cable won’t fix – now how much to run one to Stanthorp?. As James says – easy to promises other peoples money. Do you think Howard actually knows what it will cost to deliver the last 10% of that promise? Do you think he plans to fully deliver?

    Do you think Cullen & Clark knew the real cost of their election policies. I do remember the occasional ideological burp from the treasury around election time, perhaps the burps had the foul smell of inflation and did more damage than the Dairy boom that is now being blamed.

    Perhaps it’s just so simple, leave more money in the pockets of the students and give more to large families and they all drink more milk!

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  8. Fred Says:

    And don’t get confused….broadband roll out isn’t the attraction.

    Aust’s greatest attraction isn’t merely 30% higher salaries….it’s the superb superannuation system.

    NZ has a govt pension scheme that it pretends is “superannuation”….hilarious.

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  9. Jim D Says:

    ben….way I understand it is the 8mb is available on standard ADSL…a tweak. What they’re retailing as “24 mb DSLAM” needs modified telephone “exchanges”.
    Ask me about fishing rods instead.

    No, no, no. The DSLAM is the piece of equipment at the exchange (or your local Telecom cabinet) that your DSL router talks to. ADSL goes up to a max of 8mbit and ADSL2+ goes up to a max of 24mbit.

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  10. Selma Bouvier Says:

    Howard also said last time that the Refugees were thrown overboard, in spite of being told to the contary.
    The polls are saying he will lose his own seat along with many ministers.
    Like a dictator signs his downfall is imminent

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  11. Fred Says:

    Read it again Jim…

    8 mb ADSL is on already installed exchange gear.

    The RETAIL name given to the fastest ADSL2 here is “24mb DSLAM” (whether or not ADSL uses DSLAM)and it needs the “exchange” to be modified, hence the limited availability compared to standard broadband speeds.

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  12. NX Says:

    burt said: Imagine this as Labour party policy in NZ.

    ‘We promise that if you are earning less than (x), have more than (x) children, don’t work full time but do not consume the 20hr’s of free childcare because your are earning over (x) AND/OR you have historic outstanding claims against the Govt AND/OR you are 65 or older – then we will deliver a 1MB link to your door in 2008.

    Well said burt. It would be funny if it weren’t true.

    Some polls have been kinder to Howard of late. It’d take a brave man to write Howard off.

    There has been inevitable comparisons between Klark & Howard’s their poor polling. But their situations aren’t the same.
    -Howard’s been PM for over 11 years, Klark coming up 8.
    -Howard won the last election convincingly, Klark stole ours.
    -Howard has run a strong economy, Klark’s chickens have come home to roost.
    -Howard took Australia into Iraq. Klark sent forces post invasion & pretends they aren’t there.
    -Howard has delivered tax cut after tax cut. Klark wastes our money.

    The Australians have the luxury of considering a change for the sake of it. We, on the other hand, are considering a change out of necessity.

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  13. simon cheese Says:

    I’m leaving to live in Australia soon – someone told me that New Zealanders can vote in Australian elections if they are in the country; is this true?

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  14. simon cheese Says:

    I’m leaving to live in Australia soon – someone told me that New Zealanders can vote in Australian elections if they are in the country; is this true?

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  15. woppo Says:

    Simon – Nzers aren’t simply eligible to vote in Australia – EVERYONE who happens to be resident in the country at the time of a state or federal election is compelled to vote. Examples here:

    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/cea1918233/s245.html

    and here:

    http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/lga1993182/s314.html

    While the rules aren’t rigorously enforced, they make a practice of tracking down a few examples after every election.

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  16. Paul W Says:

    Woppo, you’re wrong about voting eligibility. citizens are the only people entitled to vote, not permanent residents. I’ve lived in NSW for five years and am not a PR, don’t need to be one for work if you’re a kiwi and it’s pricey (circa $2k) as it requires an assessment (pretty straight forward however).

    David, the broadband pledge/issue is a big deal but I can’t see it being a major factor in the election. Howard’s just trying to nulify Labor’s pledge and get Telstra into the game. It might be a bit of a voter-winner for the X and Y’s but the issues that will win/lose the election will be much as they have been in the last couple of elections; economic management, terrorism, interest rates… maybe this time, the environment.

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  17. woppo Says:

    Of course you don’t need to be a citizen tio work in Oz – I’ve spent a total of 17 years working in NSW as an NZ citizen.
    And I WAS caught, along with my wife, and thrashed with a feather for failing to vote in a federal election back in the 70s.

    The rules are right there on the web for all to read,
    As I mentioned, they’re rather lax when it comes to enforcing them.

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