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	<title>Comments on: Bradford wants voting age lowered to 16</title>
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		<title>By: Zach Castles</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318234</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach Castles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 00:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a 15 year old who is constantly in the environment and company of 16 year old peers,I know that 16 year olds should not be able to vote. 
Sue Bradford knows shes not too crash hot with voters after she pulled the anti-smacking stint so now shes at it again trying to brainwash youth. Everyone knows that the greens are relatively popular amongst youth and by lowering the voting age, Bradford will have a comfortable majority to stay in parliament.

She does not care for youth - she wants their vote. Her secret Agenda to brainwash youth and build a support base for the greens is undemocratic and unfair. Her conflict of interest discredits her motion to lower the voting age.

We need to provide a non-partisan approach to ciivics and legal studies before we give youth a vote.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a 15 year old who is constantly in the environment and company of 16 year old peers,I know that 16 year olds should not be able to vote.<br />
Sue Bradford knows shes not too crash hot with voters after she pulled the anti-smacking stint so now shes at it again trying to brainwash youth. Everyone knows that the greens are relatively popular amongst youth and by lowering the voting age, Bradford will have a comfortable majority to stay in parliament.</p>
<p>She does not care for youth &#8211; she wants their vote. Her secret Agenda to brainwash youth and build a support base for the greens is undemocratic and unfair. Her conflict of interest discredits her motion to lower the voting age.</p>
<p>We need to provide a non-partisan approach to ciivics and legal studies before we give youth a vote.</p>
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		<title>By: ivan</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318233</link>
		<dc:creator>ivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that it should remain 18 but have an examption for 16/17 they should do a test and pass before they could vote i think that 16 is old enough to vote if you know about politics i am 16 myself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that it should remain 18 but have an examption for 16/17 they should do a test and pass before they could vote i think that 16 is old enough to vote if you know about politics i am 16 myself</p>
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		<title>By: robbie nz</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318232</link>
		<dc:creator>robbie nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No vote, no tax.

I don&#039;t believe that 16 year olds should vote (im 18 by the way), but I would like to see 16 year olds not being taxed. It&#039;s just not fair. When I was trying to save for Uni last year, I was being taxed 150 - 200 dollars a week. I would rather see that went into a savings account than funding the kindergarten that is politics in which we don&#039;t get a say anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No vote, no tax.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that 16 year olds should vote (im 18 by the way), but I would like to see 16 year olds not being taxed. It&#8217;s just not fair. When I was trying to save for Uni last year, I was being taxed 150 &#8211; 200 dollars a week. I would rather see that went into a savings account than funding the kindergarten that is politics in which we don&#8217;t get a say anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: robbie nz</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318231</link>
		<dc:creator>robbie nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No vote, no tax.

I don&#039;t believe that 16 year olds should vote (im 18 by the way), but I would like to see 16 year olds not being taxed. It&#039;s just not fair. When I was trying to save for Uni last year, I was being taxed 150 - 200 dollars a week. I would rather see that went into a savings account than funding the kindergarten that is politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No vote, no tax.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that 16 year olds should vote (im 18 by the way), but I would like to see 16 year olds not being taxed. It&#8217;s just not fair. When I was trying to save for Uni last year, I was being taxed 150 &#8211; 200 dollars a week. I would rather see that went into a savings account than funding the kindergarten that is politics.</p>
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		<title>By: robbie nz</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318230</link>
		<dc:creator>robbie nz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No vote, no tax.

I don&#039;t believe that 16 year olds should vote (im 18 by the way), but I would like to see 16 year olds not being taxed. It&#039;s just not fair. When I was trying to save for Uni last year, I was being taxed 150 - 200 dollars a week. I would rather see that went into a savings account than funding the kindergarten that is politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No vote, no tax.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that 16 year olds should vote (im 18 by the way), but I would like to see 16 year olds not being taxed. It&#8217;s just not fair. When I was trying to save for Uni last year, I was being taxed 150 &#8211; 200 dollars a week. I would rather see that went into a savings account than funding the kindergarten that is politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Dazzaman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318229</link>
		<dc:creator>Dazzaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 06:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, not James.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, not James.</p>
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		<title>By: Dazzaman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318228</link>
		<dc:creator>Dazzaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James - &lt;i&gt;&quot;Why can 16 year olds drive and pay taxes but not vote?

Why indeed James?&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8211; <i>&#8220;Why can 16 year olds drive and pay taxes but not vote?</p>
<p>Why indeed James?</i></p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318227</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before the leftie purist language twits start ; I meant to say this sick government has plummeted our country into a quagmire of appalling social statistic&#039;s like child abuse and infanticide.

When you got to a job well you got to give the other side hell.Live and let die !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before the leftie purist language twits start ; I meant to say this sick government has plummeted our country into a quagmire of appalling social statistic&#8217;s like child abuse and infanticide.</p>
<p>When you got to a job well you got to give the other side hell.Live and let die !!</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318226</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 21:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Mr I.P.Freely I hope our sporting teams on land and water bring some honour and dignity to our once proud nation that has plummented into social chaos by sinister political humanoids .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Mr I.P.Freely I hope our sporting teams on land and water bring some honour and dignity to our once proud nation that has plummented into social chaos by sinister political humanoids .</p>
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		<title>By: Mr I.P .Freely</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318225</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr I.P .Freely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Morning dad4justice, have a good weekend, go the blacks/team NZ,and keep those pussy lefties,in their place (a down position)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Morning dad4justice, have a good weekend, go the blacks/team NZ,and keep those pussy lefties,in their place (a down position)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318224</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get a life d4j .Police have helped me with a Christchurch incident and a USA misjudgement .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get a life d4j .Police have helped me with a Christchurch incident and a USA misjudgement .</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318223</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope no one gets smacked today, as the hospital is shut and the Minister of Health and Police are in lalaland !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope no one gets smacked today, as the hospital is shut and the Minister of Health and Police are in lalaland !!</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318222</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Front page Ch Ch Press -  &quot;Report damns police recruits &quot; - looks like the corrupt police are lacking suitable resources .

Be worried New Zealanders - as Helen Clark and her feminazi dogs and made in NZ male wimps are directing us to condone anarchistic behaviour from people in authority . 

This country is a shocking indictment, how long are the public going to suffer from a lost the plot big time government ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Front page Ch Ch Press &#8211;  &#8220;Report damns police recruits &#8221; &#8211; looks like the corrupt police are lacking suitable resources .</p>
<p>Be worried New Zealanders &#8211; as Helen Clark and her feminazi dogs and made in NZ male wimps are directing us to condone anarchistic behaviour from people in authority . </p>
<p>This country is a shocking indictment, how long are the public going to suffer from a lost the plot big time government ?</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria McAlesse</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318221</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria McAlesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 19:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We haven&#039;t seen the results of her last bill yet.  I don&#039;t imagine the police are going to be that impressed about having to report on every case of smacking - even light smacking.
How will they have the resources?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We haven&#8217;t seen the results of her last bill yet.  I don&#8217;t imagine the police are going to be that impressed about having to report on every case of smacking &#8211; even light smacking.<br />
How will they have the resources?</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Heine</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318220</link>
		<dc:creator>Clint Heine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on ladies, we all know what Bradford wants to do here. She and her mates at UNITE are trying to mobilise the youth and unskilled workers for their new political movement. UNITE were not to long ago paying for busses to pick up kids from schools to protest against McDonalds.

Although I suspect she is also trying to get a lot of support from the yoof for the upcoming Youth Parliament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on ladies, we all know what Bradford wants to do here. She and her mates at UNITE are trying to mobilise the youth and unskilled workers for their new political movement. UNITE were not to long ago paying for busses to pick up kids from schools to protest against McDonalds.</p>
<p>Although I suspect she is also trying to get a lot of support from the yoof for the upcoming Youth Parliament.</p>
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		<title>By: (*_*)</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318219</link>
		<dc:creator>(*_*)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More Labour voters, hahahahahaha</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More Labour voters, hahahahahaha</p>
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		<title>By: frederico</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318218</link>
		<dc:creator>frederico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Whay....what an  idiot...er too much shiraz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Whay&#8230;.what an  idiot&#8230;er too much shiraz.</p>
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		<title>By: frederico</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318217</link>
		<dc:creator>frederico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Roger Nome, but from now on....its war!!!!  Look ,the more we debate the differences rather than the prejudices the better. I think thats the whay DPF wanted for kiwiblog. CHEERS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Roger Nome, but from now on&#8230;.its war!!!!  Look ,the more we debate the differences rather than the prejudices the better. I think thats the whay DPF wanted for kiwiblog. CHEERS</p>
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		<title>By: phillipjohn (from now on to be known as "Roger Nome")</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/06/bradford_wants_voting_age_lowered_to_16.html#comment-318216</link>
		<dc:creator>phillipjohn (from now on to be known as "Roger Nome")</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 11:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frederico:

I&#039;m not saying that the greens are without political guile. It&#039;s just that to me this smacks of their tendency to put principal over strategy. It&#039;s probably not going to be a popular proposal amongst the electorate, yet they&#039;re pursuing it. In fact, I suspect that it could loose them more votes than it brings them.

BTW: Thanks for your kind words here and over at my blog. As you can imagine, I don&#039;t tend to receive too many of them here. I should also say that I generally wouldn&#039;t put you in the same category as Baiter of D4J - My comparison of you to them was in fact more than a little hyperbolic and unfair.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frederico:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that the greens are without political guile. It&#8217;s just that to me this smacks of their tendency to put principal over strategy. It&#8217;s probably not going to be a popular proposal amongst the electorate, yet they&#8217;re pursuing it. In fact, I suspect that it could loose them more votes than it brings them.</p>
<p>BTW: Thanks for your kind words here and over at my blog. As you can imagine, I don&#8217;t tend to receive too many of them here. I should also say that I generally wouldn&#8217;t put you in the same category as Baiter of D4J &#8211; My comparison of you to them was in fact more than a little hyperbolic and unfair.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: phillipjohn (from now on to be known as "Roger Nome")</title>
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		<dc:creator>phillipjohn (from now on to be known as "Roger Nome")</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rogered PJ - Oh shut up - you demented baked pepper!&quot;

D4J: I know I&#039;ve said this before, but It&#039;s the pub or kiwiblog mate. You shouldn&#039;t be doing both at the same time as it&#039;s bad for the quality of the thread. Now put that whisky down, grab a jug of water, go to bed and sleep it off. There&#039;s a good daddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rogered PJ &#8211; Oh shut up &#8211; you demented baked pepper!&#8221;</p>
<p>D4J: I know I&#8217;ve said this before, but It&#8217;s the pub or kiwiblog mate. You shouldn&#8217;t be doing both at the same time as it&#8217;s bad for the quality of the thread. Now put that whisky down, grab a jug of water, go to bed and sleep it off. There&#8217;s a good daddy.</p>
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