Comments on: A Who’s Who of the Madeleine Setchell story

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By: Murray Hely

Murray Hely — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 07:06:37 +0000

In the next Cabinet reshuffell Beson Pope in a GONE BURGER
as they say.

By: 3 cuddly cockers

3 cuddly cockers — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:47:54 +0000

DBP is dog crap
OUR beloved helen produces the crap ,and everfaithfull selma believes in DOG crap
what gets me ,my 3 dogs produce honest dog crap every day , ,that i clean up , but i cannont push back the dog shit comming out of our (leader???????0 every day ,(there istnt enough doggie doo bags produced,to deal with the crap , from labour, THE workers party (yer right)

By: slightlyrighty

slightlyrighty — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:41:17 +0000

Once a bully, always a bully.

3 cock-ups by DBP, no action by Helen. What dirt has he got on her?

By: Anthony

Anthony — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:26:44 +0000

It’s disappointing how many people’s values disappear out the window when they think their job might be on the line.

Public servants have certainly been ‘bullied’ before under other governments but this is the most blatant incident with the most serious consequences (someone else losing their job) that I have heard of.

By: peterquixote

peterquixote — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 06:24:20 +0000

look yous know what i thought, when that girlkmn thing say
szetchel i thought sexual do yous know hat i mean,

By: peterquixote

peterquixote — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:57:22 +0000

jeex farra lot of answers to you post,
just as how you not dumb faarra,
thing about a new economy farrar

By: Frank

Frank — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:45:22 +0000

gd: Transparency International are kept abreast of allegations of corruption in our pollitical scene as it is realised that they have difficulty in recognising alleged corrupt actions. However despite being briefed they reinforce our No 1 world rating which Annette King is pleased to quote

I recall Transparency International threatening to revise our rating if the Validation of unlawful election spending was passed into Legislation!!!!

By: 3 cuddly cockers

3 cuddly cockers — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:37:02 +0000

Think posters this nasty bauld headed weasle will be out of a job soon, nasty peace of lying shit, opps .DBP is thought lower than cars sales pearsons , IE dog shit, on your shoes

By: Anon

Anon — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:27:55 +0000

Alice: the point is that the advertising campaign – called a “public information campaign” – will actually be designed to promote Helen Clark. Setchell could not be trusted to get this right. See had to go.

By: Porcupine

Porcupine — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:16:23 +0000

TI report is put together by the same bureaucrats – call the trough-feeders international if you like.

By: Alice

Alice — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:04:56 +0000

Since Hugh Logan isn’t speaking to the media, they should contact the ex-CE of the Ministry for the Environment – Barry Carbon. Carbon apparently had quite a few clashes with the Ministers Office who put a lot of pressure on him to be political – but thanks to his integrity he refused. I think he lives in Melbourne now but am sure he would have something to say on this. Also, I wonder why the press secretaries that have taken a bullet for their Minister are now all working for DPMC or the Prime Minister’s office. Lianne Dailzel’s and David Parkers Press Secs both seem to have found jobs working for Helen after apparently ‘acting out’. Maybe they should move over and make room for Steve Hurring. Also, Anon’s comments are ridiculous – the Government’s policies on climate change and sustainability are not secret – and based on what Anon has said it would mean that no member of an advertising agency can have friends or partners who vote for the National Party either. Unless of course this is another new rule Helen has come up with.

By: gd

gd — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:35:08 +0000

This reminds of when my old Dad joined the Post Office in the late 1930s. At that time Catholics controlled the top positions in many government departments. My Dad being a Presbyterian and from a State school was told very clearly by his boss that he was priviledged to get the job. Substitute non member of the Socialists with Catholic and we seem to have the same situation now.
Fact is we have and have had a partisan public service but like most areas of governance in NZ the reality is denied by those who believe you can fool most of the peasants most of the time.

By: Anon

Anon — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:22:22 +0000

This is why Setchell was sacked.
First, the Govt will make advertising by third parties illegal in election year (this will happen this week) and then, second, it will get the Ministry for the Environment to launch a massive election year advertising campaign about climate change, sustainability and carbon neutrality, and how Helen Clark is saving the world.
Setchell obviously couldn’t be the one to run this ad campaign.

By: Dead Duck Dux

Dead Duck Dux — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:20:57 +0000

I agree with frederico. There is a real opportunity for the government to show some mettle – but I suspect it won’t. The Party itself could assert some pressure on its political wing. The public would appreciate politicians standing up on point of principle rather than simple-minded partisanship.

By: gd

gd — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:05:14 +0000

Frank What really amuses me is how Transperancey International gets suckered into giving their rating when this crapola goes on. TI looks like it just asks the PM questions like Are you or any other government politican indulging in any bad governance practices? They obviously dont ask the 2nd or 3rd questions Ears and Eyes must be painted on.

By: frederico

frederico — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:50:13 +0000

Huge tactical error from Clark and Labour. Sack him, agree it was inappropriate, emphasise that ministers are responsible for their staff and move on. Added bonus of ridding the government of a major handicap (DBP). To me it echoes of the “free” early education balls up ( Just say its subsidised!!). This government reminds me of my 2 year old at bedtime……despite exhaustion and tears, contantly falling over and making a mess of it, they just dont want to go to bed. Cant see whats good for them….long may it continue

By: CraigM

CraigM — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:41:32 +0000

HELENGRAD is alive and well and operating on all cylinders. The control freak has taken over, sheilding BP from the media. What an emasculated little toad he is. FFS, stand up for yourself man ! But ask Helen for permission first.

She that must be obeyed really is a remarkable politician (not a compliment)

It is little wonder that the public service coined the phrase Helengrad. They must have experienced this kind of BS for years.

By: Dave

Dave — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:32:43 +0000

Helen Clark on Morning Report today said that Setchell should never have been hired That is alarming!

PRESENTER: one sees that there are things that may have gone wrong all along this process, but primarily it seems the mistake that’s made is that her application was progressed at all.
CLARK: That’s probably right Sean, and in the light of the advice that the State Services Commission later gave Mr Logan.

Helen Clark has just stated that people who have relatives, partners or friends connected to political parties other than Labour need not bother to apply for senior roles in the public service before the election.

National says this is proof positive that Labour sees the public service as an extension of its political operation

By: Frank

Frank — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:24:10 +0000

gd: The following is an excellent example of the Westminster style democracy that (cough) you say we are supposed to have and the procedure to be adopted if the Minister creates an indiscretion. Ministers- Cullen, King etc.claim that Ministers never direct other Government Departments but:
Police HQ, Executive Services, received on 4 June 2003 the following directive from the Office of the Minister of Police signed by Gerry Cunneen Adviser (Police) 3 June 2003 “Correspondence of 25 May 2003…
The attached paper/s refer to alleged fraud, forgery, corruption (public sector).
No reply is required to this correspondence.
For filing please./Link with pps.

Helen Clark and Annette King along with other MPs have been provided with the above document which they have not acknowledged. Silence Golden?