Good quote

July 24th, 2007 at 11:45 am by David Farrar

It’s ironic that Parliament will be voting to legalise advocacy of the violent overthrow of the government while at the same time they are criminalising non-violent advocacy of the democratic overthrow of the government.

- Nigel Kearney

Nigel is right – it is ironic. And sad.

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15 Responses to “Good quote”

  1. Selma Bouvier () says:

    So he is saying there should not be any restrictions on parties spending , or outside groups spending or indeed saying what they like under the guise of free speech.

    Well no party ( other than ACT ) would support that. National is only against the low limits for its big spending friends.
    I suspect most large companies welcome the maximum contribution level being set. Prevents the National party bagmen pressuring them for more.

    Money does buy influence in politics, wake up .

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  2. slightlyrighty () says:

    You don’t get it do you Selma. The Civil Service, with its unlimited budget, would become a mouthpeice for the policies of the government, which is seeking to silence free speech which opposes such policies.

    Remember, if this bill is passed, and National become government, the rules apply BOTH WAYS. (except in the case of trade unions, which are conveiniently allowed for in the proposed rules)

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  3. Seamonkey Madness () says:

    You’re dead on the money Selma.

    The extra, illegal money spent by Labour on the pledge cards last election bought the influence of more sheep…dole bludgers…voters

    And now look what we’re stuck with.

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  4. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,814 comments) says:

    Aaaaah, it’s that somnolent Selma again. The one who is so fast asleep that she/he/it doesn’t see the influence which is purchased by Labour via Radio Left Winf Labour news, bus stop signs, WW advertising, pledge cards, you’re better off with labour and all the rest of the bullshit.

    I must say the daring of your cretinous pals is the only redeeming feature. Only your lot could have come up with the theorythat if the lie is big enough, everyone will believe it. Sorry, you mean they didn’t think of that one?……

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  5. Seamonkey Madness () says:

    Sorry those first two (sheep and dole bludgers) were supposed to be humourously struckout.

    ^_^

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  6. Adolf Fiinkensein (2,814 comments) says:

    Aaaaah, it’s that somnolent Selma again. The one who is so fast asleep that she/he/it doesn’t see the influence which is purchased by Labour via Radio Left Wing Labour news, bus stop signs, WW advertising, pledge cards, you’re better off with labour and all the rest of the bullshit.

    I must say the daring of your cretinous pals is the only redeeming feature. Only your lot could have come up with the theory that if the lie is big enough, everyone will believe it. Sorry, you mean they didn’t think of that one?……

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  7. Bogusnews () says:

    On a more humerous side, I saw a fabulous take off of a Labour billboard.
    It was the baby held up by red ribbons with a speech balloon say “look mum, I’m flying to Australia”. The caption underneath read

    They’ll Bugger off with Labour

    Many a true word is spoken in jest.

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  8. Selma Bouvier () says:

    National started the spending on promoting government policies so they cant go back and unscramble that egg.
    Most of the current promotions are innoucuous stuff,
    ‘ BE PREPARED FOR A DISASTER’
    Some other promotions legitimatley inform the public of the details like kiwisaver ( which national sort of supports) anyway.

    For those who want all government reduced, well your party is under 1%.

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  9. Tane () says:

    The electoral reform being proposed does nothing to restrict free speech, it only stops the monopolising of speech by a wealthy elite in order to give everyone a fair go. That’s what marks the difference between a democracy and a plutocracy. Of course, we all know which side DPF and his mates stand on, and it sure ain’t democracy.

    [DPF:Tane ignores every issue raised in detail to make sweeping generalisations. So much for an intelligent debate. But hey your mates in the PPTA will be pissed when National is in power and they can't advertise against bulk funding. And also EPMU can't advertise against the changes to employment law if it is election year]

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  10. James () says:

    “For those who want all government reduced, well your party is under 1%.”

    And that fact is what’s so scary and depressing about NZ and its future….our grandchildren will look sullenly through the barb wire and curse us whilst scratching at the tattooed numbers on their arms….

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  11. Spam (595 comments) says:

    Selma,

    Kiwisaver adverts directed people not to the kiwisaver website, but to the Labour website. Legitimate?

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  12. Seamonkey Madness () says:

    Selma,

    Q: So a promotion BLATANT ADVERTISEMENT FOR LABOUR like this, is fine by you?

    A: Of course!

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  13. Selma Bouvier () says:

    Seamonkey that is labour party spending, as you know, not IRD or social welfare

    All parties get money to spend on their policies, including national, but they dont have any policies.

    Its a bit hard to advertise flip flops and attack politics, but no doubt the billboards will be back- but dont show John key by the pool.

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  14. Seamonkey Madness () says:

    Wrong again Selma.

    If this is Labour Party spending, it is electioneering at it’s worst. (and we’re not even in election year!!)

    Also when clicked on the ad, it took you to the Labour Party website, NOT the Kiwisaver website.

    The ad is (legally) supposed to be apolitical, but is the exact opposite of this. What don’t you get Selma?

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  15. burt () says:

    Let me attempt to assist this debate.

    Selma

    Take of the rose coloured glasses, Labour are not the honourable people your mother told you they were 50 years ago. Now look again!

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