Comments on: Consilium http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html DPF's Kiwiblog - Fomenting Happy Mischief since 2003 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 11:00:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Paul W http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html#comment-328582 Paul W Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:21:20 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html#comment-328582 Fair points but I'd say that, at least in the areas of policy I work - education, labour market, industry policy - I'd not have said they were particularly influential whereas I could name several others, many of which are not independent, that are. Frederico's point about Rudd is, of course, exactly why he's there - that and the appalling performance of his predecessors. Fair points but I’d say that, at least in the areas of policy I work – education, labour market, industry policy – I’d not have said they were particularly influential whereas I could name several others, many of which are not independent, that are.

Frederico’s point about Rudd is, of course, exactly why he’s there – that and the appalling performance of his predecessors.

]]> By: frederico http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html#comment-328573 frederico Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:43:20 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html#comment-328573 I suppose that as aussie labour didn't disintegrate in 80's (ACT, New Labour) there is still a relevant right group within the party. Rudd almost undoubtedly reflects this and hence the ALP presence. at CIS. Having lived in Australia for the past year( now back home), Rudd doesn't scare me as much as the prospect of another 3 years of NZ labour does. I suppose that as aussie labour didn’t disintegrate in 80′s (ACT, New Labour) there is still a relevant right group within the party. Rudd almost undoubtedly reflects this and hence the ALP presence. at CIS. Having lived in Australia for the past year( now back home), Rudd doesn’t scare me as much as the prospect of another 3 years of NZ labour does.

]]> By: David Farrar http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html#comment-328567 David Farrar Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:13:25 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html#comment-328567 Paul: Well within the ALP I would say the fact that the Leader and President have both been regular attendees at CIS events speaks for itself. The fact that there are so many ALP MPs at Consilium is another indicator. The fact that CIS has attacked the Howard Govt in areas they disagree, adds to its independent reputation. As for the wider community, well of course most Australians don't know what CIS is. But over the years there have been not dozens but I would say hundreds of supportive editorials etc testifying to the quality of the work CIS does. Paul: Well within the ALP I would say the fact that the Leader and President have both been regular attendees at CIS events speaks for itself. The fact that there are so many ALP MPs at Consilium is another indicator. The fact that CIS has attacked the Howard Govt in areas they disagree, adds to its independent reputation.

As for the wider community, well of course most Australians don’t know what CIS is. But over the years there have been not dozens but I would say hundreds of supportive editorials etc testifying to the quality of the work CIS does.

]]> By: Paul W http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html#comment-328559 Paul W Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:39:27 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html#comment-328559 David, I genuinely would like to know what makes you think the CIS is well regarded in Australia or the within the ALP (and just in case its relevant I'm not a member of the ALP)? David, I genuinely would like to know what makes you think the CIS is well regarded in Australia or the within the ALP (and just in case its relevant I’m not a member of the ALP)?

]]> By: peterquixote http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html#comment-328543 peterquixote Sat, 11 Aug 2007 04:41:42 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html#comment-328543 sounds utterly awful at that Pompeum Colosseum thing farra, do yous have any ordinary people there, or do you feed them to tiger, sounds utterly awful at that Pompeum Colosseum thing farra, do yous have any ordinary people there, or do you feed them to tiger,

]]> By: baxter http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html#comment-328534 baxter Sat, 11 Aug 2007 03:37:06 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/consilium.html#comment-328534 'The one thing which has struck me about the people here is the sheer intelligence and intellectual firepower." Not many Aussies taking part then. ‘The one thing which has struck me about the people here is the sheer intelligence and intellectual firepower.”

Not many Aussies taking part then.

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