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	<title>Comments on: Name the Electoral Finance Bill</title>
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		<title>By: NX</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-334211</link>
		<dc:creator>NX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 04:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also voted for &lt;b&gt;Election Theft No.2 Bill&lt;/b&gt;.

Because lets face it&#039;s quite apparent with the theft of Dr Brash&#039;s emails, the rort of the tax payer, moles in the police, &amp; moles in the media that it all adds up to corruption.  

Only this time they&#039;re trying to make &#039;some&#039; of it legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also voted for <b>Election Theft No.2 Bill</b>.</p>
<p>Because lets face it&#8217;s quite apparent with the theft of Dr Brash&#8217;s emails, the rort of the tax payer, moles in the police, &amp; moles in the media that it all adds up to corruption.  </p>
<p>Only this time they&#8217;re trying to make &#8217;some&#8217; of it legal.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-334182</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free Speech (Abolition) Bill is my pick- I can&#039;t vote because I can&#039;t enable cookies on this computer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free Speech (Abolition) Bill is my pick- I can&#8217;t vote because I can&#8217;t enable cookies on this computer</p>
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		<title>By: Deane Jessep</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333988</link>
		<dc:creator>Deane Jessep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best term so far used was &quot;The Bill of Wrongs&quot; it was not convoluted and made perfect sense.  I would vote for that if it was there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best term so far used was &#8220;The Bill of Wrongs&#8221; it was not convoluted and made perfect sense.  I would vote for that if it was there.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas O'Kane</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333932</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas O'Kane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 07:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use the name &quot;Anti-Free Speech Bill&#039; on my blog. I have no idea why this name (unless it wasn&#039;t nominated) didn&#039;t make it to the top 9. All the names above are cool, except the &quot;Labour party corruption validation Bill&quot; which better describes the Validation Act than this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use the name &#8220;Anti-Free Speech Bill&#8217; on my blog. I have no idea why this name (unless it wasn&#8217;t nominated) didn&#8217;t make it to the top 9. All the names above are cool, except the &#8220;Labour party corruption validation Bill&#8221; which better describes the Validation Act than this.</p>
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		<title>By: Fletch</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333914</link>
		<dc:creator>Fletch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 06:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I went for Criticism Prevention Bill.

I like &#039;Free Speech (Abolition) Bill&#039;, but it sounds almost like a positive thing if you don&#039;t know what it&#039;s about. Ditto &#039;Freedom From Expression&#039; - too similar to &#039;freedom of expression&#039; and people will mistake it for something positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went for Criticism Prevention Bill.</p>
<p>I like &#8216;Free Speech (Abolition) Bill&#8217;, but it sounds almost like a positive thing if you don&#8217;t know what it&#8217;s about. Ditto &#8216;Freedom From Expression&#8217; &#8211; too similar to &#8216;freedom of expression&#8217; and people will mistake it for something positive.</p>
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		<title>By: The Perfect Man</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333911</link>
		<dc:creator>The Perfect Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 06:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RN&#039;s like all the Gnomes I&#039;ve ever seen. All look totally out of place and they never move from their position no matter what the weather. They wear red hats, never sleep and don&#039;t even run away when we&#039;re having a party and take to pissing down into the garden from up in our capitalist penthouse. Gotta love &#039;em, so 1960&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RN&#8217;s like all the Gnomes I&#8217;ve ever seen. All look totally out of place and they never move from their position no matter what the weather. They wear red hats, never sleep and don&#8217;t even run away when we&#8217;re having a party and take to pissing down into the garden from up in our capitalist penthouse. Gotta love &#8216;em, so 1960&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Inventory2</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333903</link>
		<dc:creator>Inventory2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>roger nome - if you dislike the opinions expressed on Kiwiblog so much, why do you spend so many hours of the working day here, hijacking threads, slagging off anyone who expresses an anti-government opinion, and generally making an arse of yourself? Does your employer have a liberal internet use policy, or not check your footprints very often? Or are you employed to Hijack threads, slag people off, and generally annoy right-thinking folk? Just a thought........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roger nome &#8211; if you dislike the opinions expressed on Kiwiblog so much, why do you spend so many hours of the working day here, hijacking threads, slagging off anyone who expresses an anti-government opinion, and generally making an arse of yourself? Does your employer have a liberal internet use policy, or not check your footprints very often? Or are you employed to Hijack threads, slag people off, and generally annoy right-thinking folk? Just a thought&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: David Farrar</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333902</link>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry - I know one can get around cookies.  But it is a free service and IP based blocking not available. Also as all the names are derogatory of the bill, there is little incentive for certain people to mass vote.

Roger: When have I ever referred to Clark as a lesbian or Klark?  To the contrary I have several times denounced such references.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry &#8211; I know one can get around cookies.  But it is a free service and IP based blocking not available. Also as all the names are derogatory of the bill, there is little incentive for certain people to mass vote.</p>
<p>Roger: When have I ever referred to Clark as a lesbian or Klark?  To the contrary I have several times denounced such references.</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333893</link>
		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christ Monty Dont give them ideas the next thing we will  see is the Permanent Deferment of Parliamentary Elections Bill making its way to the Select Committee. The purpose will be stated as &quot; to ensure democratic stability and long term security&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christ Monty Dont give them ideas the next thing we will  see is the Permanent Deferment of Parliamentary Elections Bill making its way to the Select Committee. The purpose will be stated as &#8221; to ensure democratic stability and long term security&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333884</link>
		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 04:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How are Labour lickspittle going to bombard this poll to demonstrate that that we have it all wrong and that really the right result (Electoral Finance Reform Bill) that everyone really does support is the correct answer.

Is anyone taking this up with the Herald?  Will this desperate and corrupt government really see into Law this corruption of democracy.  If they don&#039;t (I back Winston to withdraw support) does that mean the Labour Government is finished and an election will need to be called?  or will Labour desperately try and hang on in there until November 2008? (if elections don&#039;t get cancelled in the national interest first?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How are Labour lickspittle going to bombard this poll to demonstrate that that we have it all wrong and that really the right result (Electoral Finance Reform Bill) that everyone really does support is the correct answer.</p>
<p>Is anyone taking this up with the Herald?  Will this desperate and corrupt government really see into Law this corruption of democracy.  If they don&#8217;t (I back Winston to withdraw support) does that mean the Labour Government is finished and an election will need to be called?  or will Labour desperately try and hang on in there until November 2008? (if elections don&#8217;t get cancelled in the national interest first?)</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333873</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, since it uses cookies, if you want to vote repeatedly you&#039;ll need to delete them. Tools -&gt; Options -&gt; Privacy -&gt; Clear Cookies Now in Firefox, Tools -&gt; Delete Browsing History -&gt; Cookies in IE. Really secure, David ;-)

Oh, and my suggestion is winning. Yay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, since it uses cookies, if you want to vote repeatedly you&#8217;ll need to delete them. Tools -&gt; Options -&gt; Privacy -&gt; Clear Cookies Now in Firefox, Tools -&gt; Delete Browsing History -&gt; Cookies in IE. Really secure, David <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh, and my suggestion is winning. Yay!</p>
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		<title>By: CraigM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333867</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“corrupt stalinist kkkklarkkkk’s lesbian cult bill” David? I’m sure that would have done well - it is kiwiblog after all.&quot;

Yes it is..........and you are still here. 

However, only a nasty minded individual would ever dream of calling our PM something that horrible. I&#039;ll be suprised if DPF adds it to the list. Good try tho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“corrupt stalinist kkkklarkkkk’s lesbian cult bill” David? I’m sure that would have done well &#8211; it is kiwiblog after all.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes it is&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.and you are still here. </p>
<p>However, only a nasty minded individual would ever dream of calling our PM something that horrible. I&#8217;ll be suprised if DPF adds it to the list. Good try tho.</p>
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		<title>By: Madeleine</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333866</link>
		<dc:creator>Madeleine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot vote either: &quot;Error I&#039;m sorry but to complete this survey you must accept cookies.&quot; I cannot change any work settings so here are my top three ranked in order of preference.

Free Speech (Abolition) Bill
Freedom From Expression Bill
Criticism Prevention Bill

Madeleine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot vote either: &#8220;Error I&#8217;m sorry but to complete this survey you must accept cookies.&#8221; I cannot change any work settings so here are my top three ranked in order of preference.</p>
<p>Free Speech (Abolition) Bill<br />
Freedom From Expression Bill<br />
Criticism Prevention Bill</p>
<p>Madeleine</p>
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		<title>By: gd</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333865</link>
		<dc:creator>gd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>roger nome  Not only is your proposed name for the Bill a goodie it is also factually correct</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roger nome  Not only is your proposed name for the Bill a goodie it is also factually correct</p>
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		<title>By: Frank.</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333862</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yvette: &quot;Election Theft No.2 Bill” as I felt it reflected almost all politicians had misappropriated funds last election&quot;.

You are right. So the following procedures were necessary for our esteemed leader to avoid High Court action:

 - The Validation Act had to legalise this unlawful expenditure - The EFB had to seemingly validate the Validation Act by pointing the finger at the EB for their alleged attempted high jacking of the last election. This gave the pollies a chance to present the preventiave measures proposed in this iniquitous Bill, to thwart any such dastardly attempts in the future. 

The Bill in their eyes is justified.

Very, very unconvincing attempt. So what next do they have up their sleeves that is less destructive to themselves, to gain any credibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yvette: &#8220;Election Theft No.2 Bill” as I felt it reflected almost all politicians had misappropriated funds last election&#8221;.</p>
<p>You are right. So the following procedures were necessary for our esteemed leader to avoid High Court action:</p>
<p> &#8211; The Validation Act had to legalise this unlawful expenditure &#8211; The EFB had to seemingly validate the Validation Act by pointing the finger at the EB for their alleged attempted high jacking of the last election. This gave the pollies a chance to present the preventiave measures proposed in this iniquitous Bill, to thwart any such dastardly attempts in the future. </p>
<p>The Bill in their eyes is justified.</p>
<p>Very, very unconvincing attempt. So what next do they have up their sleeves that is less destructive to themselves, to gain any credibility.</p>
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		<title>By: roger nome</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333861</link>
		<dc:creator>roger nome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the &quot;corrupt stalinist kkkklarkkkk&#039;s lesbian cult bill&quot; David? I&#039;m sure that would have done well - it is kiwiblog after all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the &#8220;corrupt stalinist kkkklarkkkk&#8217;s lesbian cult bill&#8221; David? I&#8217;m sure that would have done well &#8211; it is kiwiblog after all.</p>
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		<title>By: David Farrar</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333857</link>
		<dc:creator>David Farrar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not a poll on whether people approve of the ERB.  No-one does.  Even those defending it know it is a piece of crap.  They would be marching on the streets if National had introduced it.

It is a poll on picking the best name for opponents of the Bill to use.  How hard is that to understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not a poll on whether people approve of the ERB.  No-one does.  Even those defending it know it is a piece of crap.  They would be marching on the streets if National had introduced it.</p>
<p>It is a poll on picking the best name for opponents of the Bill to use.  How hard is that to understand?</p>
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		<title>By: slightlyrighty</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333856</link>
		<dc:creator>slightlyrighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was some debate on a previous post about Nicky Hagar&#039;s comment about the EFB being similar to the type of legislation the Nazi&#039;s would try.

If one substitutes Jews for EB&#039;s, one can see he has a point.  When you see the lenghts that Labour has gone in response to a religious minority with means, there are parellels.  These may not be deliberate, in fact they probably aren&#039;t.  

But Roger, your suggestion &quot;I would vote for the “free from EB Bill”.&quot;  is indicative of the thinking that has spawned this legislative peice of nastiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was some debate on a previous post about Nicky Hagar&#8217;s comment about the EFB being similar to the type of legislation the Nazi&#8217;s would try.</p>
<p>If one substitutes Jews for EB&#8217;s, one can see he has a point.  When you see the lenghts that Labour has gone in response to a religious minority with means, there are parellels.  These may not be deliberate, in fact they probably aren&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>But Roger, your suggestion &#8220;I would vote for the “free from EB Bill”.&#8221;  is indicative of the thinking that has spawned this legislative peice of nastiness.</p>
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		<title>By: kisekiman</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333853</link>
		<dc:creator>kisekiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krazy, I had the same problem. Go to tools - internet options - privacy and set your slider to accept all cookies and then change it back after you vote. Seemed to work for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krazy, I had the same problem. Go to tools &#8211; internet options &#8211; privacy and set your slider to accept all cookies and then change it back after you vote. Seemed to work for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Bannister</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/name_the_electoral_finance_bill.html#comment-333852</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Bannister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 02:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger, this is a great example of a nonsense poll. 

Choose the most appropriate answer for the following statement:
Ice-cream is nice?

a. Yes

b. Affirmative

c. I agree

d. True

e. Correct

f. For sure

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, this is a great example of a nonsense poll. </p>
<p>Choose the most appropriate answer for the following statement:<br />
Ice-cream is nice?</p>
<p>a. Yes</p>
<p>b. Affirmative</p>
<p>c. I agree</p>
<p>d. True</p>
<p>e. Correct</p>
<p>f. For sure</p>
<p>g. Absolutely</p>
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