Comments on: Newspaper Readership http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html DPF's Kiwiblog - Fomenting Happy Mischief since 2003 Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:27:41 +1300 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Redbaiter http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331724 Redbaiter Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:20:57 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331724 <p>Sorry about the multiples. Think I've got it now. Something to do with anti-spam software and multiple urls.</p> [DPF: Yes if more than three links it gets held for approval] Sorry about the multiples. Think I’ve got it now. Something to do with anti-spam software and multiple urls.

[DPF: Yes if more than three links it gets held for approval]

]]> By: Roger Cowell http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331692 Roger Cowell Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:43:32 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331692 As an expatriate kiwi in the UK I am very sorry that the mags such as North and South, Metro, and even the N Z Listener seem in terminal decline and/or dumbing down. They've been rare and useful glimpses of NZ ideas and life. I would like to think new and essential mags will start up, but fear publishers currently are too much in thrall with advertisers simple belief that only teenagers and twenty somethings are worth pandering to. Baby boomers beware... As an expatriate kiwi in the UK I am very sorry that the mags such as North and South, Metro, and even the N Z Listener seem in terminal decline and/or dumbing down. They’ve been rare and useful glimpses of NZ ideas and life. I would like to think new and essential mags will start up, but fear publishers currently are too much in thrall with advertisers simple belief that only teenagers and twenty somethings are worth pandering to. Baby boomers beware…

]]> By: Flashman http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331690 Flashman Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:18:11 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331690 Niche specialist magazines aside, buying newspapers and broad spectrum magazines is a tax on stupidity in an internet age. Niche specialist magazines aside, buying newspapers and broad spectrum magazines is a tax on stupidity in an internet age.

]]> By: Redbaiter http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331684 Redbaiter Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:29:35 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331684 Compare these provocative articles to the wet predictable leftist crap you read in the Herald. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2007/08/15/if_at_first_you_dont_succeed,_lie,_lie_again http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MikeSAdams/2007/08/20/unprotected http://www.townhall.com/columnists/BurtPrelutsky/2007/08/20/the_left_is_brain-dead# C’mon, even you commies know I’m right. Compare these provocative articles to the wet predictable leftist crap you read in the Herald.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2007/08/15/if_at_first_you_dont_succeed,_lie,_lie_again

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MikeSAdams/2007/08/20/unprotected

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/BurtPrelutsky/2007/08/20/the_left_is_brain-dead#

C’mon, even you commies know I’m right.

]]> By: Redbaiter http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331683 Redbaiter Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:28:27 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331683 I too think there is something fishy about the Herald’s claims. For God’s sake, I don’t know one person who is the least interested in the boring pseudo liberal claptrap of the Castro loving Woodham. Crosswired Coddington is another limp and disjointed bore. Marxist crap from McCarten. Little Audrey, another common and garden type media commie trying hard to be objective. Red Rudman, completely unreadable. Gwynne Dyer, winner of the world’s dumbest propagandist’s award for his promotion of the Bush low IQ lie. Fran O’Sullivan is the only one with anything interesting to say. The rest of them are just so tired, and their stuff is yawn inducing twenty years behind the times crapola. Of course that’s the way the Herald Editor, that limp liberal NYT arse licking wimp, likes it. He’d rather see his paper hit the wall than publish anything that offends the sensibilities of the simpering “urban liberals” he sees as his main market.. Where’s NZ’s Ann Coulter? Burt Prelutsky? Mike S. Adams? These guys know how to write an interesting opinion piece. Compare this to the wet predictable leftist crap you read in the Herald. C’mon, even you commies know I’m right. I too think there is something fishy about the Herald’s claims. For God’s sake, I don’t know one person who is the least interested in the boring pseudo liberal claptrap of the Castro loving Woodham. Crosswired Coddington is another limp and disjointed bore. Marxist crap from McCarten. Little Audrey, another common and garden type media commie trying hard to be objective. Red Rudman, completely unreadable. Gwynne Dyer, winner of the world’s dumbest propagandist’s award for his promotion of the Bush low IQ lie.
Fran O’Sullivan is the only one with anything interesting to say. The rest of them are just so tired, and their stuff is yawn inducing twenty years behind the times crapola. Of course that’s the way the Herald Editor, that limp liberal NYT arse licking wimp, likes it. He’d rather see his paper hit the wall than publish anything that offends the sensibilities of the simpering “urban liberals” he sees as his main market..
Where’s NZ’s Ann Coulter? Burt Prelutsky? Mike S. Adams? These guys know how to write an interesting opinion piece. Compare this to the wet predictable leftist crap you read in the Herald.

C’mon, even you commies know I’m right.

]]> By: Redbaiter http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331682 Redbaiter Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:27:03 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331682 test test

]]> By: Cactus Kate http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331674 Cactus Kate Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:26:06 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331674 "If ever there was any evidence that we are growing more retarded as a society it is the increase in Time Magazine’s readership - god help us". I think this is Rogernome's best ever comment. It's sad to see Metro drop down the drain pipe, yet perhaps it's time to stop their leftist fluffy nonsense and get with the programme. A male editor would have helped no end, however they dropped the ball and appointed Sally Duggan whose experience includes such well known flagship publications as KiaOra, Little Treasures, Your Home & Garden, NZ Home + Entertaining and Taste. With such a background I look forward to Metro evolving into stories on flying Maori babies who potter around the garden in search of food. “If ever there was any evidence that we are growing more retarded as a society it is the increase in Time Magazine’s readership – god help us”.

I think this is Rogernome’s best ever comment.

It’s sad to see Metro drop down the drain pipe, yet perhaps it’s time to stop their leftist fluffy nonsense and get with the programme.

A male editor would have helped no end, however they dropped the ball and appointed Sally Duggan whose experience includes such well known flagship publications as KiaOra, Little Treasures, Your Home & Garden, NZ Home + Entertaining and Taste.

With such a background I look forward to Metro evolving into stories on flying Maori babies who potter around the garden in search of food.

]]> By: Redbaiter http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331673 Redbaiter Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:24:01 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331673 I too think there is something fishy about the Herald's claims. For God's sake, I don't know one person who is the least interested in the boring pseudo liberal claptrap of the Castro loving Woodham. Crosswired Coddington is another limp and disjointed bore. Marxist crap from McCarten. Little Audrey, another common and garden type media commie trying hard to be objective. Red Rudman, completely unreadable. Gwynne Dyer, winner of the world's dumbest propagandist's award for his promotion of the Bush low IQ lie. Fran O'Sullivan is the only one with anything interesting to say. The rest of them are just so tired, and their stuff is yawn inducing twenty years behind the times crapola. Of course that's the way the Herald Editor, that limp liberal NYT arse licking wimp, likes it. He'd rather see his paper hit the wall than publish anything that offends the sensibilities of the simpering "urban liberals" he sees as his main market.. Where's NZ's Ann Coulter? Burt Prelutsky? Mike S. Adams? These guys know how to write an interesting opinion piece. Compare these provocative articles to the wet predictable leftist crap you read in the Herald. http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2007/08/15/if_at_first_you_dont_succeed,_lie,_lie_again http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MikeSAdams/2007/08/20/unprotected http://www.townhall.com/columnists/BurtPrelutsky/2007/08/20/the_left_is_brain-dead# C'mon, even you commies know I'm right. I too think there is something fishy about the Herald’s claims. For God’s sake, I don’t know one person who is the least interested in the boring pseudo liberal claptrap of the Castro loving Woodham. Crosswired Coddington is another limp and disjointed bore. Marxist crap from McCarten. Little Audrey, another common and garden type media commie trying hard to be objective. Red Rudman, completely unreadable. Gwynne Dyer, winner of the world’s dumbest propagandist’s award for his promotion of the Bush low IQ lie.

Fran O’Sullivan is the only one with anything interesting to say. The rest of them are just so tired, and their stuff is yawn inducing twenty years behind the times crapola. Of course that’s the way the Herald Editor, that limp liberal NYT arse licking wimp, likes it. He’d rather see his paper hit the wall than publish anything that offends the sensibilities of the simpering “urban liberals” he sees as his main market..

Where’s NZ’s Ann Coulter? Burt Prelutsky? Mike S. Adams? These guys know how to write an interesting opinion piece. Compare these provocative articles to the wet predictable leftist crap you read in the Herald.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/AnnCoulter/2007/08/15/if_at_first_you_dont_succeed,_lie,_lie_again

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/MikeSAdams/2007/08/20/unprotected

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/BurtPrelutsky/2007/08/20/the_left_is_brain-dead#

C’mon, even you commies know I’m right.

]]> By: Inventory2 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331657 Inventory2 Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:54:45 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331657 Selma said "What ever happened to the circulation or “number sold” have they declined so much that they dare not print how many(few) copies are coming off the presses. Does the readership now include online ‘readers ‘ like me. It doesnt say explicitly but I suppose it must as its the only way the herald could get an increase" Good point Selma - you ask sensible questions when you stay away from politics!! I worked in the Circulation Dept at a provincial daily a few years ago, and was interested in the rorts that were being pulled to get circulation numbers up. What you see isn't necessarily what you get! Just an example - our paper ran a farming supplement, once a month, delievered free to every rural property in the district. A percentage of all the advertising was transferred from the advertising dept to circulations, so the advertisers were actually buying the "free" papers - which allowed circulations to include them in their figures - 5000+ papers once a month helped made a small but significant difference to the average daily circulation, which, of course, could be used to attract more advertisers. Legal? Maybe - ethical? Hmmmm........ Selma said “What ever happened to the circulation or “number sold” have they declined so much that they dare not print how many(few) copies are coming off the presses.

Does the readership now include online ‘readers ‘ like me. It doesnt say explicitly but I suppose it must as its the only way the herald could get an increase”

Good point Selma – you ask sensible questions when you stay away from politics!! I worked in the Circulation Dept at a provincial daily a few years ago, and was interested in the rorts that were being pulled to get circulation numbers up. What you see isn’t necessarily what you get! Just an example – our paper ran a farming supplement, once a month, delievered free to every rural property in the district. A percentage of all the advertising was transferred from the advertising dept to circulations, so the advertisers were actually buying the “free” papers – which allowed circulations to include them in their figures – 5000+ papers once a month helped made a small but significant difference to the average daily circulation, which, of course, could be used to attract more advertisers. Legal? Maybe – ethical? Hmmmm……..

]]> By: peterquixote http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331651 peterquixote Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:39:12 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331651 what the trouble with them masgazines what you said farrar, that there too many words and yous got to have better looking girls in mn thatt what the trouble with them masgazines what you said farrar, that there too many words and yous got to have better looking girls in mn thatt

]]> By: emmess http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331649 emmess Mon, 20 Aug 2007 09:33:14 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331649 I haven't bought a newspaper or magazine for four or five years And the only newspaper/magazine I routinely visit online is the Economist (now totally free) I haven’t bought a newspaper or magazine for four or five years
And the only newspaper/magazine I routinely visit online is the Economist (now totally free)

]]> By: vto http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331629 vto Mon, 20 Aug 2007 08:46:04 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331629 papers and blogs and bumps in the night and people in togs that are way too tight all scary tings metinks papers and blogs
and bumps in the night

and people in togs
that are way too tight

all scary tings metinks

]]> By: Selma Bouvier http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331600 Selma Bouvier Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:23:41 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331600 What ever happened to the circulation or "number sold" have they declined so much that they dare not print how many(few) copies are coming off the presses. Does the readership now include online 'readers ' like me. It doesnt say explicitly but I suppose it must as its the only way the herald could get an increase What ever happened to the circulation or “number sold” have they declined so much that they dare not print how many(few) copies are coming off the presses.

Does the readership now include online ‘readers ‘ like me. It doesnt say explicitly but I suppose it must as its the only way the herald could get an increase

]]> By: Dead Duck Dux http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331597 Dead Duck Dux Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:06:31 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331597 I read all my newspapers via pressdisplay.com - so...I am not sure my readership would be counted...in addition to my regular o/seas reads, I *sometimes* suffer the awfulness of the The DumbPost and the horrid Herald. By the way, I would commend pressdisplay to anyone interested in accessing up-to-date o/seas papers. I read all my newspapers via pressdisplay.com – so…I am not sure my readership would be counted…in addition to my regular o/seas reads, I *sometimes* suffer the awfulness of the The DumbPost and the horrid Herald. By the way, I would commend pressdisplay to anyone interested in accessing up-to-date o/seas papers.

]]> By: Rob O'Neill http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331594 Rob O'Neill Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:01:24 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331594 Geez, can't spel eether Geez, can’t spel eether

]]> By: Rob O'Neill http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331593 Rob O'Neill Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:00:57 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331593 Tdk, tsk, you've all mised the big story here. Computerworld up to 38,000 from 36,000 - and for the six months hitting 41,000. Popular wisdom is we are in a sector that should be succumbing first ... Tdk, tsk, you’ve all mised the big story here. Computerworld up to 38,000 from 36,000 – and for the six months hitting 41,000.

Popular wisdom is we are in a sector that should be succumbing first …

]]> By: TIM BARCLAY http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331517 TIM BARCLAY Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:29:15 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331517 I though Time was CIA. Maybe CIA is going left like the rest of the US. I though Time was CIA. Maybe CIA is going left like the rest of the US.

]]> By: JC http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331494 JC Mon, 20 Aug 2007 01:05:57 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331494 What should we expect when we only have "journalists", not reporters. Journalists get a ticket from a university or polytechnic and start with a pink tinge and a separation from the people they want to reach. Examples of this tin ear were the uncritical recitement of Clark's diatribes after 911.. followed by the public laying truckloads of flowers in from of the US embassey and polls showing high support for the US. Then those famous headlines and editorials berating Brash's Orewa speech.. followed by polls showing over 80% of the public agreed with Brash. What a climbdown after that! In this little country the politicians in power are the lifeblood of the print media, and the media is going to be very careful about pissing them off. I suspect that like the Govt., the media have their own little focus groups to advise whether to run some story or other.. how else to explain the slow start out of the blocks on the Electoral Finance Bill. JC What should we expect when we only have “journalists”, not reporters. Journalists get a ticket from a university or polytechnic and start with a pink tinge and a separation from the people they want to reach. Examples of this tin ear were the uncritical recitement of Clark’s diatribes after 911.. followed by the public laying truckloads of flowers in from of the US embassey and polls showing high support for the US. Then those famous headlines and editorials berating Brash’s Orewa speech.. followed by polls showing over 80% of the public agreed with Brash. What a climbdown after that!

In this little country the politicians in power are the lifeblood of the print media, and the media is going to be very careful about pissing them off. I suspect that like the Govt., the media have their own little focus groups to advise whether to run some story or other.. how else to explain the slow start out of the blocks on the Electoral Finance Bill.

JC

]]> By: little phil http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331492 little phil Mon, 20 Aug 2007 00:57:38 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331492 Roger Nome - you will be pleased to see however that Reader's Digest is (like you) holding its own.... Roger Nome – you will be pleased to see however that Reader’s Digest is (like you) holding its own….

]]> By: X Y and Z http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331490 X Y and Z Mon, 20 Aug 2007 00:49:35 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/08/newspaper_readership.html#comment-331490 Yeah les - lets boycott the print media, and save the planet! Yeah les – lets boycott the print media, and save the planet!

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