Comments on: The nature of the attacks on Key

By: pdq

pdq — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:27:46 +0000

IP: “I don’t think anybody has ever seriously suggested that Judith Tizard has even been a close adviser of Helen Clark. Just very, very good friends.”

Who does the hoovering on Tuesdays?

By: krazykiwi

krazykiwi — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:47:47 +0000

Come on if what you are referring to is fact – put you’re facts out on the table to us

I think the facts will find their own way out when the time is right … secrets and public life are like oil and water.

There’s a verse in the Bible which says “Be sure your sins will find you out”. How very true.

By: Calculus

Calculus — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:47:05 +0000

Perhaps the Flagged Red Dog needs some awakening to what is really going on in those closeted rooms of Premier House……. Woof,woof

By: Flagging Red Dog

Flagging Red Dog — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 10:33:46 +0000

Insolent Prick says:
I don’t think anybody has ever seriously suggested that Judith Tizard has even been a close adviser of Helen Clark. Just very, very good friends.

Reg says:
“Unspeakable thing” and “deep dark secret”

What is the innuendo here in all this?
Come on if what you are referring to is fact – put you’re facts out on the table to us!

By: Reg

Reg — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:23:28 +0000

Interesting how the “left” won’t engage on the “Consort” comment. The issue must be given no oxygen!
Alas MM has said the unspeakable thing, he has mentioned the deep dark secret.
Their orders are obviously “to ignore”. This is always HC’s plan A.
Plan B is if anything unfavourable gains traction, attack the messenger without mercy. I hope Mike’s ready!

By: Inventory2

Inventory2 — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:17:08 +0000

krazykiwi said “Will someone please invite Inventory2 to a BBQ. He’s feeling left out ”

Damn right I am krazykiwi – first no-one visits my blog, then I don’t get invites to barbies! I wouldn’t go to one at Phil Goff’s though – I might end up in the cabinet when he rolls Clark!!!

By: Insolent Prick

Insolent Prick — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:13:59 +0000

FRD:

I don’t think anybody has ever seriously suggested that Judith Tizard has even been a close adviser of Helen Clark. Just very, very good friends.

By: Flagging Red Dog

Flagging Red Dog — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:51:29 +0000

I take it Premier House is the PM’s Wellington residence.
Did she have a legitimate reason to stay there if she was advising the PM closely ?
Is this fact or fiction? – a right-wing concocted story I suspect!!

By: Insolent Prick

Insolent Prick — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:30:23 +0000

Flagging Red Dog:

No, I don”t think Mike Moore was referring to Judith Tizard as HC’s closest political adviser. More to do with Tizard being Helen’s closest personal friend, and the fact that Judith lived at Premier House for some time. Perhaps also because if it were not for the very special friendship Helen has with Judith, Judith would not be a Minister.

As Michael Laws has said, Judith is only the Minister of Consumer Affairs because she consumes more than any other Minister.

By: Flagging Red Dog

Flagging Red Dog — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 08:05:41 +0000

“Consort”
{Iam reposting this because I haven’t been given any specific answers}
I am annoyed by that “consort” reference as well.
I always thought Miss Simpson would be known as her consort as she is Ms Clarks main assistant. Is this not so ? If Ms Tizard is giving all the strategy or whatever she needs to be retired and a new “consort” found because I think Miss Simpson has really had her share of chances as well.
Does Ms Tizard have more to do directly with the PM’s or what does Mr. Moore mean ?
I am alarmed Mike Moore is a respected politician with a lot of experience – He is casting serious doubt on the current Helen Clark strategy. Whats more she was interviewed by TV3 today and she just cast his views aside an even I am thinking that something is going off the rails here. Any way could some Labour staffers please explain the consort reference.

By: spector

spector — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:34:02 +0000

Ironically, it may have been prudent in hindsight to have kept MiKe Moore in the fold for such occasions. He still has a touch of David Lange about him and would probably be more easily forgiven by the voting public.

Oh well.

By: Right of way is Way of Right

Right of way is Way of Right — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:29:05 +0000

Oh have you seen the latest, apparently now Helen Clark has had very strong words behind closed doors with Pete Hodgson!

By: spector

spector — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:29:00 +0000

You know, morality aside, if I was Helen and wanted to throw dirt on John Key the last people I would entrust the job too would be Pete or Trevor. Neither of them have any finesse or delivery style. Particularly Pete.

Everytime he gets up to address the house he just comes across as a slightly deranged homeless drunk.

Even Micheal Cullen, who some people think is incredibly witty, comes across very ham-fisted when delivering killer barbs.

Say what you will but I’d leave that sort of job to Winston. Winston understands the proper theatrics of a good delivery.

By: krazykiwi

krazykiwi — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 07:04:00 +0000

The man is ppast his used by date.

The man is in great company then — the smell coming from most of the Labour caucus is gross!

By: Adolf Fiinkensein

Adolf Fiinkensein — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:38:43 +0000

Got a bit of a stutter there, John? You’d better go and see how many other people your toxic Klarque has tramples over during her career. They’ll all be calling in their markers.

By: John Dalley

John Dalley — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 06:16:41 +0000

Sorry, Mike Moore Who?
The man is ppast his used by date.

By: Tina

Tina — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:50:59 +0000

It’s time.
The political cycle is old when party paybacks are done in public.

Phil will only move before the election if he thinks Labour can win.
Otherwise he doesn’t need the scar tissue.

For Clark it’s political twilight time, NZds very own lame duck…..don’t rush it, enjoy it.

By: krazykiwi

krazykiwi — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:38:38 +0000

The only way she won’t go in to 08 looking down the barrell of a defeat would be to call an election this year

Slightly off topic (sorry DPF) – Can someone enlighten me about the process under MMP. Would a vote of No Confidence against the Labour-led government necessitate an election, or would it simply give parties an opportunity to re-form a new coalition government?

By: krazykiwi

krazykiwi — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:25:22 +0000

Will someone please invite Inventory2 to a BBQ. He’s feeling left out

By: Right of way is Way of Right

Right of way is Way of Right — Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:18:28 +0000

The only way she won;t go in to 08 looking down the barrell of a defeat would be to call an election this year!