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		<title>By: KevinOB</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-341669</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 07:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The present S.221 is interesting. There is no definition of &quot;promoter&quot;or &quot;promote&quot; in the Electoral Act,  but in the EFB. a promoter -

 &quot;(a) means a person on whose initiative an election advertisement is
published; and

(b) includes, without limitation, a person— &quot;
...........
This defines it, in terms of an election advertisement,which is effectively anything remotely associated with taking a position about anything that may interest the pollys.  cl. 16 [&quot;An application by a promoter to be listed as a third party may be made to the Chief Electoral Officer---&quot;]. So all promoters are caught. &quot;8 Appointment of financial agent for third party

  (1)  A third party must appoint a financial agent&quot;

 53 Election advertisements not to be published in regulated period unless 
certain conditions met
(1) No person may, during a regulated period, publish or cause or permit to 
be published any election advertisement unless-
............
(2)  For the purposes of subsection (1)(b), a promoter is entitled to promote 
an election advertisement if the promoter is---
.............
(c)  a third party; or


S. 221 is meant to catch those would place fake advertisements on behalf of a party so only what is expressly authorised for advertising by the party is included in the limited expenditure. I think there is a similar provision regarding candidates. These election tricks were being carried out to my knowledge in the 1975 election. The section is very limited as to what it applies to, in contrast to cl. 55 of the EFB. 

What has NZ come to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The present S.221 is interesting. There is no definition of &#8220;promoter&#8221;or &#8220;promote&#8221; in the Electoral Act,  but in the EFB. a promoter -</p>
<p> &#8220;(a) means a person on whose initiative an election advertisement is<br />
published; and</p>
<p>(b) includes, without limitation, a person— &#8221;<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
This defines it, in terms of an election advertisement,which is effectively anything remotely associated with taking a position about anything that may interest the pollys.  cl. 16 ["An application by a promoter to be listed as a third party may be made to the Chief Electoral Officer---"]. So all promoters are caught. &#8220;8 Appointment of financial agent for third party</p>
<p>  (1)  A third party must appoint a financial agent&#8221;</p>
<p> 53 Election advertisements not to be published in regulated period unless<br />
certain conditions met<br />
(1) No person may, during a regulated period, publish or cause or permit to<br />
be published any election advertisement unless-<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
(2)  For the purposes of subsection (1)(b), a promoter is entitled to promote<br />
an election advertisement if the promoter is&#8212;<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
(c)  a third party; or</p>
<p>S. 221 is meant to catch those would place fake advertisements on behalf of a party so only what is expressly authorised for advertising by the party is included in the limited expenditure. I think there is a similar provision regarding candidates. These election tricks were being carried out to my knowledge in the 1975 election. The section is very limited as to what it applies to, in contrast to cl. 55 of the EFB. </p>
<p>What has NZ come to?</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Edgeler</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-341345</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Edgeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank. And here&#039;s the fishhook in the current law:

&quot;[221Advertisements for candidates and political parties 	

(1)Subject to subsections (2) and (3) of this section, no person shall publish or cause or permit to be published in any newspaper, periodical, poster, or handbill, or broadcast or cause or permit to be broadcast over any radio or television station, any advertisement which—

(a)Is used or appears to be used to promote or procure the election of a constituency candidate; or

(b)Encourages or persuades or appears to encourage or persuade voters to vote for a party registered under Part 4 of this Act.

(2)A person may publish or cause or permit to be published an advertisement of the kind described in subsection (1)(a) of this section if—

(a)The publication of that advertisement is authorised in writing by the candidate or the candidate&#039;s agent or, in the case of an advertisement relating to more than one candidate, the candidates or the party to which they belong; and

(b)The advertisement contains a statement setting out the true name of the person for whom or at whose direction it is published and the address of his or her place of residence or business.

(3)A person may publish or cause or permit to be published an advertisement of the kind described in subsection (1)(b) of this section if—

(a)The publication of that advertisement is authorised in writing by the Secretary of the party or his or her delegate; and

(b)The advertisement contains a statement setting out the true name of the person for whom or at whose direction it is published and the address of his or her place of residence or business.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank. And here&#8217;s the fishhook in the current law:</p>
<p>&#8220;[221Advertisements for candidates and political parties 	</p>
<p>(1)Subject to subsections (2) and (3) of this section, no person shall publish or cause or permit to be published in any newspaper, periodical, poster, or handbill, or broadcast or cause or permit to be broadcast over any radio or television station, any advertisement which—</p>
<p>(a)Is used or appears to be used to promote or procure the election of a constituency candidate; or</p>
<p>(b)Encourages or persuades or appears to encourage or persuade voters to vote for a party registered under Part 4 of this Act.</p>
<p>(2)A person may publish or cause or permit to be published an advertisement of the kind described in subsection (1)(a) of this section if—</p>
<p>(a)The publication of that advertisement is authorised in writing by the candidate or the candidate&#8217;s agent or, in the case of an advertisement relating to more than one candidate, the candidates or the party to which they belong; and</p>
<p>(b)The advertisement contains a statement setting out the true name of the person for whom or at whose direction it is published and the address of his or her place of residence or business.</p>
<p>(3)A person may publish or cause or permit to be published an advertisement of the kind described in subsection (1)(b) of this section if—</p>
<p>(a)The publication of that advertisement is authorised in writing by the Secretary of the party or his or her delegate; and</p>
<p>(b)The advertisement contains a statement setting out the true name of the person for whom or at whose direction it is published and the address of his or her place of residence or business.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.legislation.govt.nz/libraries/contents/om_isapi.dll?clientID=1688761356&amp;hitsperheading=on&amp;infobase=pal_statutes.nfo&amp;jd=a1993-087%2fs.221&amp;record=" rel="nofollow">http://www.legislation.govt.nz/libraries/contents/om_isapi.dll?clientID=1688761356&amp;hitsperheading=on&amp;infobase=pal_statutes.nfo&amp;jd=a1993-087%2fs.221&amp;record=</a>{2514C}&amp;softpage=DOC#JUMPDEST_a1993-087/s.221</p>
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		<title>By: KevinOB</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-341337</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the fishhook in detail -

The problem with cl. 55.is the definition of &quot;promote&quot;.

This is the explanatory note -

&quot;Clause 55 provides that an election advertisement that encourages or persuades, 
or appears to encourage or persuade, voters to vote for a party or candidate 
must be authorised in writing by the financial agent of the party or the 
candidate, as the case may be. An election advertisement that encourages or 
persuades, or appears to encourage or persuade, voters to vote for 2 or more 
candidates must be authorised in writing by the financial agent of each of the 
candidates or by the financial agent of the party to which the candidates 
belong. The election advertisement must state the name and address of the 
promoter who has promoted the advertisement.&quot;

There is no mention here of cl. 55 being limited to election advertisements placed directly by or on behalf of a party or candidate. The generality appears in cl. 55 in the word &#039;promote&#039; which 
 &quot;means a person on whose initiative an election advertisement is published...&quot;.  The definition of electoral advertisement even includes &quot;taking a position on a proposition with which 1 or more 
parties or 1 or more candidates is associated&quot;  Publication does not help either to narrow the definition. It would seem in any case that cl. 55 (1) (a)  applies so that 3rd parties require written authorisation by a promoted political party. Whether it is included in the party election expenses is doubtful but it  may be that any printed  advertisement of a 3rd party that has been duly authorised by a political party has to be included in the political party expenses. Isn&#039;t that what Klark &amp; Co wanted in regard to the EB? I do not trust these provisions. Any amibguity now may be removed later when the electoral officers interpret it restrictively.

Relevant  clauses follow--
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 55 Requirements for election advertisements that promote parties or 
candidates

  (1) No person may publish, or cause or permit to be published, an election 
advertisement that encourages or persuades, or appears to encourage or 
persuade, voters to vote for a party unless the advertisement---

      (a)  is authorised in writing by the financial agent of the party; and

      (b)  contains a statement that sets out the name and address of the 
promoter of the advertisement.

  (2) No person may publish, or cause or permit to be published, an election 
advertisement that encourages or persuades, or appears to encourage or 
persuade, voters to vote for a candidate unless the advertisement---

      (a)  is authorised in writing by the financial agent of that candidate; 
and

      (b)  contains a statement that sets out the name and address of the 
promoter of the advertisement.

  (3) No person may publish, or cause or permit to be published, an election 
advertisement that encourages or persuades, or appears to encourage or 
persuade, voters to vote for 2 or more candidates unless the advertisement---

      (a)  is authorised in writing either by the financial agent of each of 
those candidates or by the financial agent of the party to which those 
candidates belong; and

      (b)  contains a statement that sets out the name and address of the 
promoter of the advertisement.

  (4)  Every person is guilty of an illegal practice who wilfully contravenes 
any provision of this section.

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  5 Meaning of election advertisement

  (1)  In this Act, election advertisement---

      (a)  means any form of words or graphics, or both, that can reasonably be 
regarded as doing 1 or more of the following:

          (i)     encouraging or persuading voters to vote, or not to vote, for 
1 or more specified parties or for 1 or more candidates or for any combination 
of such parties and candidates:

          (ii)    encouraging or persuading voters to vote, or not to vote, for 
a type of party or for a type of candidate that is described or indicated by 
reference to views, positions, or policies that are or are not held, taken, or 
pursued (whether or not the name of a party or the name of a candidate is 
stated):

          (iii)   taking a position on a proposition with which 1 or more 
parties or 1 or more candidates is associated; and

      (b)  includes---

          (i)     a candidate advertisement; and

          (ii)    a party advertisement.

  (2)  The following publications are not election advertisements:

      (a)  an advertisement that is published by the Chief Electoral Officer, 
the Chief Registrar of Electors,............

      (b)  an advertisement within the meaning of section 43(1) of the Citizens 
Initiated Referenda Act 1993:

      (c)  any content of a newspaper or periodical that has been selected by, 
or with the authority of, the editor of the newspaper or periodical solely for 
the purpose of informing or entertaining its readership:

      (d)  any content of a radio or television programme that has been 
selected by, or with the authority of, a broadcaster (within the meaning of the 
Broadcasting Act 1989) solely for the purpose of informing or entertaining its 
audience:

      (e)  a book that is sold for no less than its commercial value, if the 
book was planned to be made available to the public regardless of any election:

      (f)  a document published directly by a body corporate or unincorporated 
to its members:

      (g)  the publication by an individual, on a non-commercial basis, on the 
Internet of his or her personal political views (being the kind of publication 
commonly known as a blog).
--------------------------------------
promoter---

      (a)  means a person on whose initiative an election advertisement is 
published; and

      (b)  includes, without limitation, a person---

          (i)     who enters into a contract, arrangement, or understanding 
with another person to the effect that the other person publish an election 
advertisement; or

          (ii)    who publishes an election advertisement in the absence of 
such a contract, arrangement, or understanding
-----------------------------------------------

publication, in relation to an advertisement, means to---

      (a)  insert in a newspaper or other periodical published or distributed 
in New Zealand; or

      (b)  issue, hand out, or display; or

      (c)  send to any member of the public by any means; or

      (d)  deliver to any member of the public, or leave at a place owned or 
occupied by a member of the public; or

      (e)  broadcast; or

      (f)  include in a film or video; or

      (g)  disseminate by means of the Internet or any other electronic medium; 
or

      (h)  store electronically in a way that is accessible to the public
------------------------------------
party advertisement    means any form of words or graphics that can reasonably 
be regarded as encouraging or persuading voters to do either or both of the 
following:

      (a)  to vote for the party (whether or not the name of the party is 
stated):

      (b)  not to vote for another party (whether or not the name of the party 
is stated)
--------------------------------------------
candidate advertisement    means any form of words or graphics that can 
reasonably be regarded as encouraging or persuading voters to do either or both 
of the following:

      (a)  to vote for a candidate in the candidate&#039;s capacity as a candidate 
for an electoral district (whether or not the name of the candidate is stated):

      (b)  not to vote for another candidate (whether or not the name of the 
candidate is stated)
-------------------------------------
party advertisement    means any form of words or graphics that can reasonably 
be regarded as encouraging or persuading voters to do either or both of the 
following:

      (a)  to vote for the party (whether or not the name of the party is 
stated):

      (b)  not to vote for another party (whether or not the name of the party 
is stated)
------------------------------------------
81 Meaning of election expense

  (1)  In this subpart, election expense means an expense that---

      (a)  is incurred in undertaking a party activity; and

      (b)  is incurred in respect of any of the following costs:

          (i)     the cost of the preparation, design, composition, printing, 
distribution, postage, and publication of a party advertisement:

          (ii)    the cost of any material used or applied for a party 
advertisement:

          (iii)   the cost of displaying a party advertisement on any 
advertising space on any land or building that is used solely or principally 
for commercial or industrial purposes.

  (2)  Despite subsection (1)(b), election expense does not include the cost 
of---

      (a)  travel:

      (b)  the conduct of any survey or public opinion poll:

      (c)  the labour of any person that is provided free of charge by that 
person:

      (d)  the replacement of any material used in respect of a party 
advertisement which has been destroyed or rendered unusable by 1 or more 
persons (other than a person acting on behalf of the party) or by the 
occurrence of an event beyond the control of any person acting on behalf of the 
party:

      (e)  the election expense of any of the party&#039;s candidates:

      (f)  allocations of time and money made to the party by the body 
responsible for such allocations under the Broadcasting Act 1989:

      (g)  any publications that relate to a member of Parliament in his or her 
capacity as a member of Parliament.

  (3)  Where any material referred to in subsection (1)(b)(ii) or any 
advertising space referred to in subsection (1)(b)(iii) is provided free of 
charge, the commercial value of that material or advertising space must be 
included as an election expense.

  (4)  Where any material referred to in subsection (1)(b)(ii) or any 
advertising space referred to in subsection (1)(b)(iii) is provided at less 
than its commercial value, the amount of the difference between the contract 
price of the material or advertising space and the commercial value of that 
material or advertising space must be included as an election expense.

  (5)  However, subsections (3) and (4) do not apply where the commercial value 
of the material or advertising space is less than $1,000.

  (6)  For the purposes of subsections (3) to (5), commercial value, in 
relation to any material referred to in subsection (1)(b)(ii) or any 
advertising space referred to in subsection (1)(b)(iii), means the lowest 
amount charged at the time the material or advertising space was provided, for 
the same kind and quantity, by---

      (a)  the person who provided it, if that person is in the business of 
providing that material or advertising space; or

      (b)  another person who provides that material or advertising space on a 
commercial basis in the area where it was provided, if the person who provided 
the material or advertising space is not in that business.
-------------------------------------------------
80 Interpretation

In this subpart, unless the context otherwise requires,---

election expense    has the meaning given to it by section 81

party activity, in relation to a party, means an activity---

      (a)  that is undertaken by, or with the authority of,---

          (i)     the party; or

          (ii)    the party&#039;s financial agent; and

      (b)  that comprises the publication of a party advertisement in any form 
(for example, in the form of a radio or television broadcast, notice, poster, 
pamphlet, billboard, or electronic message); and

      (c)  that is undertaken, or deemed by section 85 to have been undertaken, 
during the regulated period; and

      (d)  does not include anything done in relation to a member of Parliament 
in his or her capacity as a member of Parliament</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the fishhook in detail -</p>
<p>The problem with cl. 55.is the definition of &#8220;promote&#8221;.</p>
<p>This is the explanatory note -</p>
<p>&#8220;Clause 55 provides that an election advertisement that encourages or persuades,<br />
or appears to encourage or persuade, voters to vote for a party or candidate<br />
must be authorised in writing by the financial agent of the party or the<br />
candidate, as the case may be. An election advertisement that encourages or<br />
persuades, or appears to encourage or persuade, voters to vote for 2 or more<br />
candidates must be authorised in writing by the financial agent of each of the<br />
candidates or by the financial agent of the party to which the candidates<br />
belong. The election advertisement must state the name and address of the<br />
promoter who has promoted the advertisement.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no mention here of cl. 55 being limited to election advertisements placed directly by or on behalf of a party or candidate. The generality appears in cl. 55 in the word &#8216;promote&#8217; which<br />
 &#8220;means a person on whose initiative an election advertisement is published&#8230;&#8221;.  The definition of electoral advertisement even includes &#8220;taking a position on a proposition with which 1 or more<br />
parties or 1 or more candidates is associated&#8221;  Publication does not help either to narrow the definition. It would seem in any case that cl. 55 (1) (a)  applies so that 3rd parties require written authorisation by a promoted political party. Whether it is included in the party election expenses is doubtful but it  may be that any printed  advertisement of a 3rd party that has been duly authorised by a political party has to be included in the political party expenses. Isn&#8217;t that what Klark &amp; Co wanted in regard to the EB? I do not trust these provisions. Any amibguity now may be removed later when the electoral officers interpret it restrictively.</p>
<p>Relevant  clauses follow&#8211;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
 55 Requirements for election advertisements that promote parties or<br />
candidates</p>
<p>  (1) No person may publish, or cause or permit to be published, an election<br />
advertisement that encourages or persuades, or appears to encourage or<br />
persuade, voters to vote for a party unless the advertisement&#8212;</p>
<p>      (a)  is authorised in writing by the financial agent of the party; and</p>
<p>      (b)  contains a statement that sets out the name and address of the<br />
promoter of the advertisement.</p>
<p>  (2) No person may publish, or cause or permit to be published, an election<br />
advertisement that encourages or persuades, or appears to encourage or<br />
persuade, voters to vote for a candidate unless the advertisement&#8212;</p>
<p>      (a)  is authorised in writing by the financial agent of that candidate;<br />
and</p>
<p>      (b)  contains a statement that sets out the name and address of the<br />
promoter of the advertisement.</p>
<p>  (3) No person may publish, or cause or permit to be published, an election<br />
advertisement that encourages or persuades, or appears to encourage or<br />
persuade, voters to vote for 2 or more candidates unless the advertisement&#8212;</p>
<p>      (a)  is authorised in writing either by the financial agent of each of<br />
those candidates or by the financial agent of the party to which those<br />
candidates belong; and</p>
<p>      (b)  contains a statement that sets out the name and address of the<br />
promoter of the advertisement.</p>
<p>  (4)  Every person is guilty of an illegal practice who wilfully contravenes<br />
any provision of this section.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
  5 Meaning of election advertisement</p>
<p>  (1)  In this Act, election advertisement&#8212;</p>
<p>      (a)  means any form of words or graphics, or both, that can reasonably be<br />
regarded as doing 1 or more of the following:</p>
<p>          (i)     encouraging or persuading voters to vote, or not to vote, for<br />
1 or more specified parties or for 1 or more candidates or for any combination<br />
of such parties and candidates:</p>
<p>          (ii)    encouraging or persuading voters to vote, or not to vote, for<br />
a type of party or for a type of candidate that is described or indicated by<br />
reference to views, positions, or policies that are or are not held, taken, or<br />
pursued (whether or not the name of a party or the name of a candidate is<br />
stated):</p>
<p>          (iii)   taking a position on a proposition with which 1 or more<br />
parties or 1 or more candidates is associated; and</p>
<p>      (b)  includes&#8212;</p>
<p>          (i)     a candidate advertisement; and</p>
<p>          (ii)    a party advertisement.</p>
<p>  (2)  The following publications are not election advertisements:</p>
<p>      (a)  an advertisement that is published by the Chief Electoral Officer,<br />
the Chief Registrar of Electors,&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>      (b)  an advertisement within the meaning of section 43(1) of the Citizens<br />
Initiated Referenda Act 1993:</p>
<p>      (c)  any content of a newspaper or periodical that has been selected by,<br />
or with the authority of, the editor of the newspaper or periodical solely for<br />
the purpose of informing or entertaining its readership:</p>
<p>      (d)  any content of a radio or television programme that has been<br />
selected by, or with the authority of, a broadcaster (within the meaning of the<br />
Broadcasting Act 1989) solely for the purpose of informing or entertaining its<br />
audience:</p>
<p>      (e)  a book that is sold for no less than its commercial value, if the<br />
book was planned to be made available to the public regardless of any election:</p>
<p>      (f)  a document published directly by a body corporate or unincorporated<br />
to its members:</p>
<p>      (g)  the publication by an individual, on a non-commercial basis, on the<br />
Internet of his or her personal political views (being the kind of publication<br />
commonly known as a blog).<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
promoter&#8212;</p>
<p>      (a)  means a person on whose initiative an election advertisement is<br />
published; and</p>
<p>      (b)  includes, without limitation, a person&#8212;</p>
<p>          (i)     who enters into a contract, arrangement, or understanding<br />
with another person to the effect that the other person publish an election<br />
advertisement; or</p>
<p>          (ii)    who publishes an election advertisement in the absence of<br />
such a contract, arrangement, or understanding<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>publication, in relation to an advertisement, means to&#8212;</p>
<p>      (a)  insert in a newspaper or other periodical published or distributed<br />
in New Zealand; or</p>
<p>      (b)  issue, hand out, or display; or</p>
<p>      (c)  send to any member of the public by any means; or</p>
<p>      (d)  deliver to any member of the public, or leave at a place owned or<br />
occupied by a member of the public; or</p>
<p>      (e)  broadcast; or</p>
<p>      (f)  include in a film or video; or</p>
<p>      (g)  disseminate by means of the Internet or any other electronic medium;<br />
or</p>
<p>      (h)  store electronically in a way that is accessible to the public<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
party advertisement    means any form of words or graphics that can reasonably<br />
be regarded as encouraging or persuading voters to do either or both of the<br />
following:</p>
<p>      (a)  to vote for the party (whether or not the name of the party is<br />
stated):</p>
<p>      (b)  not to vote for another party (whether or not the name of the party<br />
is stated)<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
candidate advertisement    means any form of words or graphics that can<br />
reasonably be regarded as encouraging or persuading voters to do either or both<br />
of the following:</p>
<p>      (a)  to vote for a candidate in the candidate&#8217;s capacity as a candidate<br />
for an electoral district (whether or not the name of the candidate is stated):</p>
<p>      (b)  not to vote for another candidate (whether or not the name of the<br />
candidate is stated)<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
party advertisement    means any form of words or graphics that can reasonably<br />
be regarded as encouraging or persuading voters to do either or both of the<br />
following:</p>
<p>      (a)  to vote for the party (whether or not the name of the party is<br />
stated):</p>
<p>      (b)  not to vote for another party (whether or not the name of the party<br />
is stated)<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
81 Meaning of election expense</p>
<p>  (1)  In this subpart, election expense means an expense that&#8212;</p>
<p>      (a)  is incurred in undertaking a party activity; and</p>
<p>      (b)  is incurred in respect of any of the following costs:</p>
<p>          (i)     the cost of the preparation, design, composition, printing,<br />
distribution, postage, and publication of a party advertisement:</p>
<p>          (ii)    the cost of any material used or applied for a party<br />
advertisement:</p>
<p>          (iii)   the cost of displaying a party advertisement on any<br />
advertising space on any land or building that is used solely or principally<br />
for commercial or industrial purposes.</p>
<p>  (2)  Despite subsection (1)(b), election expense does not include the cost<br />
of&#8212;</p>
<p>      (a)  travel:</p>
<p>      (b)  the conduct of any survey or public opinion poll:</p>
<p>      (c)  the labour of any person that is provided free of charge by that<br />
person:</p>
<p>      (d)  the replacement of any material used in respect of a party<br />
advertisement which has been destroyed or rendered unusable by 1 or more<br />
persons (other than a person acting on behalf of the party) or by the<br />
occurrence of an event beyond the control of any person acting on behalf of the<br />
party:</p>
<p>      (e)  the election expense of any of the party&#8217;s candidates:</p>
<p>      (f)  allocations of time and money made to the party by the body<br />
responsible for such allocations under the Broadcasting Act 1989:</p>
<p>      (g)  any publications that relate to a member of Parliament in his or her<br />
capacity as a member of Parliament.</p>
<p>  (3)  Where any material referred to in subsection (1)(b)(ii) or any<br />
advertising space referred to in subsection (1)(b)(iii) is provided free of<br />
charge, the commercial value of that material or advertising space must be<br />
included as an election expense.</p>
<p>  (4)  Where any material referred to in subsection (1)(b)(ii) or any<br />
advertising space referred to in subsection (1)(b)(iii) is provided at less<br />
than its commercial value, the amount of the difference between the contract<br />
price of the material or advertising space and the commercial value of that<br />
material or advertising space must be included as an election expense.</p>
<p>  (5)  However, subsections (3) and (4) do not apply where the commercial value<br />
of the material or advertising space is less than $1,000.</p>
<p>  (6)  For the purposes of subsections (3) to (5), commercial value, in<br />
relation to any material referred to in subsection (1)(b)(ii) or any<br />
advertising space referred to in subsection (1)(b)(iii), means the lowest<br />
amount charged at the time the material or advertising space was provided, for<br />
the same kind and quantity, by&#8212;</p>
<p>      (a)  the person who provided it, if that person is in the business of<br />
providing that material or advertising space; or</p>
<p>      (b)  another person who provides that material or advertising space on a<br />
commercial basis in the area where it was provided, if the person who provided<br />
the material or advertising space is not in that business.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
80 Interpretation</p>
<p>In this subpart, unless the context otherwise requires,&#8212;</p>
<p>election expense    has the meaning given to it by section 81</p>
<p>party activity, in relation to a party, means an activity&#8212;</p>
<p>      (a)  that is undertaken by, or with the authority of,&#8212;</p>
<p>          (i)     the party; or</p>
<p>          (ii)    the party&#8217;s financial agent; and</p>
<p>      (b)  that comprises the publication of a party advertisement in any form<br />
(for example, in the form of a radio or television broadcast, notice, poster,<br />
pamphlet, billboard, or electronic message); and</p>
<p>      (c)  that is undertaken, or deemed by section 85 to have been undertaken,<br />
during the regulated period; and</p>
<p>      (d)  does not include anything done in relation to a member of Parliament<br />
in his or her capacity as a member of Parliament</p>
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		<title>By: Frank.</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340815</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee C; It has yet to be tested by law. The Darton V Clark case was a golden opportunity, but it was demolished by the unlawful Validation Act, with the full approval of Police, who had already buried the allegation of misappropriation of Helen&#039;s Leader&#039;s Funds. Why? Because they didn&#039;t want to test the sections of the Crimes Act 1961 exposing MPs vulnerability and culpability under the Act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee C; It has yet to be tested by law. The Darton V Clark case was a golden opportunity, but it was demolished by the unlawful Validation Act, with the full approval of Police, who had already buried the allegation of misappropriation of Helen&#8217;s Leader&#8217;s Funds. Why? Because they didn&#8217;t want to test the sections of the Crimes Act 1961 exposing MPs vulnerability and culpability under the Act.</p>
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		<title>By: Fost</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340803</link>
		<dc:creator>Fost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340803</guid>
		<description>Following up on what KevinOB said:

&lt;blockquote&gt; There is a clever hidden fishhook: cl. 55. requires all promoters (i.e. anyone initiating) an electoral advertisement (doing anything during the regulated [muzzled] period) to have it agreed to in writing by the political party it promotes (encourages). The ambiguity lets this one slip under the radar. The effect is that all third party spending or activity is required to be approved by the relevant party it promotes and included in its counted expenditure. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

So the &#039;best&#039; thing to do would be to produce a pamphlet saying &quot;Support [insert party name]&quot; and get them to approve it, make it nice. It shouldn&#039;t be that hard to convince some of the more guillible candidates to endorse them, &#039;free&#039; publicity and all...  Then hit them with a big &quot;Oops, sorry overspent the budget of $5,000 actually spent $50,000&quot; so they have to take that into account on their electral spending, but have &#039;logistic difficulties&quot; and not deliver them properly/or at all. Coordinate this with several electorates early in the year and screw both the candidates electoral spend limits and the overall party spend - you&#039;d only need to be able to get a dozen or so electorates to majorally hamper that party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following up on what KevinOB said:</p>
<blockquote><p> There is a clever hidden fishhook: cl. 55. requires all promoters (i.e. anyone initiating) an electoral advertisement (doing anything during the regulated [muzzled] period) to have it agreed to in writing by the political party it promotes (encourages). The ambiguity lets this one slip under the radar. The effect is that all third party spending or activity is required to be approved by the relevant party it promotes and included in its counted expenditure. </p></blockquote>
<p>So the &#8216;best&#8217; thing to do would be to produce a pamphlet saying &#8220;Support [insert party name]&#8221; and get them to approve it, make it nice. It shouldn&#8217;t be that hard to convince some of the more guillible candidates to endorse them, &#8216;free&#8217; publicity and all&#8230;  Then hit them with a big &#8220;Oops, sorry overspent the budget of $5,000 actually spent $50,000&#8243; so they have to take that into account on their electral spending, but have &#8216;logistic difficulties&#8221; and not deliver them properly/or at all. Coordinate this with several electorates early in the year and screw both the candidates electoral spend limits and the overall party spend &#8211; you&#8217;d only need to be able to get a dozen or so electorates to majorally hamper that party.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340790</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340790</guid>
		<description>PaulL,

well said :) My thinking on this Bill is all the better for the debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PaulL,</p>
<p>well said <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  My thinking on this Bill is all the better for the debate.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulL</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340762</link>
		<dc:creator>PaulL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340762</guid>
		<description>This thread closed, new thread opened.  Score:  Roger/sonic - zero or negative, no good points made, and demonstrably wrong in a number of instances.  VRWC - 7/10, points off for being distracted by the trolls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread closed, new thread opened.  Score:  Roger/sonic &#8211; zero or negative, no good points made, and demonstrably wrong in a number of instances.  VRWC &#8211; 7/10, points off for being distracted by the trolls.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee C</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340756</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340756</guid>
		<description>Yes Frank.  

Section 25 of Crimes Act 1962: The fact that an offender is ignorant of the law is not an excuse for any offence committed by him.

But in this man&#039;s world, it appears that &#039;plausible deniability&#039; is not only an acceptable defence for Helen Clark and her cronies, it has become part of their political currency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Frank.  </p>
<p>Section 25 of Crimes Act 1962: The fact that an offender is ignorant of the law is not an excuse for any offence committed by him.</p>
<p>But in this man&#8217;s world, it appears that &#8216;plausible deniability&#8217; is not only an acceptable defence for Helen Clark and her cronies, it has become part of their political currency.</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Edgeler</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340753</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Edgeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krazykiwi - for an anti-party advertisement you don&#039;t need permission from any party now, and you don&#039;t need it under the Bill either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krazykiwi &#8211; for an anti-party advertisement you don&#8217;t need permission from any party now, and you don&#8217;t need it under the Bill either.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340752</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340752</guid>
		<description>whoops, I should say &quot;Was his vote changed?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoops, I should say &#8220;Was his vote changed?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Frank.</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340750</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340750</guid>
		<description>LeeC: &quot;an inbuilt defence of I didn’t realise what I was doing was wrong were anyone to prosecute.&quot;   
 
Section 25 of Crimes Act 1962: The fact that an offender is ignorant of the law is not an excuse for any offence committed by him.
  
This was quoted by Police commissioner Rob Robinson when he publicly reported on the 260 A4 page report on Helen&#039;s Paintergate fraud.

Members of Parliament and all State Servants are really susceptible to the Special Sections of the Crimes Act 1961.

Taito Philip Field comes well and truly into this category. If he had not been a MP and a Minister he would never have had the opportunity of advantaging himself to the disadvantage of others.

My allegation against him, which was buried by the Police Commissioner took into account S. 25 Ignorance. I&#039;m not entirely sure of the charges against Field. But, if they relate to his abusing his position as a MP and Minister, it would be similar to my complaint. 

It would be a first and would set the cat among the pigeons. Other Allegations in which I have been involved, under Sections 100 to 116 have been laid with the police, but they have all been buried.

The Taito Field case has dragged on now for 14 months? Like Rickard&#039;s case? Did you see Police Association O&#039;Connors on TV last night? &quot;Methinks he protesteth too much - tongue in cheek?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LeeC: &#8220;an inbuilt defence of I didn’t realise what I was doing was wrong were anyone to prosecute.&#8221;   </p>
<p>Section 25 of Crimes Act 1962: The fact that an offender is ignorant of the law is not an excuse for any offence committed by him.</p>
<p>This was quoted by Police commissioner Rob Robinson when he publicly reported on the 260 A4 page report on Helen&#8217;s Paintergate fraud.</p>
<p>Members of Parliament and all State Servants are really susceptible to the Special Sections of the Crimes Act 1961.</p>
<p>Taito Philip Field comes well and truly into this category. If he had not been a MP and a Minister he would never have had the opportunity of advantaging himself to the disadvantage of others.</p>
<p>My allegation against him, which was buried by the Police Commissioner took into account S. 25 Ignorance. I&#8217;m not entirely sure of the charges against Field. But, if they relate to his abusing his position as a MP and Minister, it would be similar to my complaint. </p>
<p>It would be a first and would set the cat among the pigeons. Other Allegations in which I have been involved, under Sections 100 to 116 have been laid with the police, but they have all been buried.</p>
<p>The Taito Field case has dragged on now for 14 months? Like Rickard&#8217;s case? Did you see Police Association O&#8217;Connors on TV last night? &#8220;Methinks he protesteth too much &#8211; tongue in cheek?</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340749</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I note that Roger still has not responded to my question. What his vote changed? If not, why not?

Furthermore, does Labour want ideas suppressed by this Bill. The answer is pretty clear: Yes. If so why? Why are they so worried about people being exposed to new ideas? Are they the font of all knowledge now via their massive budget available by promoting government policies? Why don&#039;t we all treat ourselves equal before the law: everyone has a large budget (i.e. if &#039;big business&#039; has a lot of money, then I&#039;m pretty certain this socialist government has enough money to promote its own ideas) or everyone has a limited budget. One or the other, but note that whil eoy uneed mponey to promote your ideas, acceptance of the idea is based on the idea itself. Plenty of people rejected both the ideas from the businessmen from the EB as well as Labour&#039;s own policies. Nothing wrong with that; in fact, it indicates a healthy democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note that Roger still has not responded to my question. What his vote changed? If not, why not?</p>
<p>Furthermore, does Labour want ideas suppressed by this Bill. The answer is pretty clear: Yes. If so why? Why are they so worried about people being exposed to new ideas? Are they the font of all knowledge now via their massive budget available by promoting government policies? Why don&#8217;t we all treat ourselves equal before the law: everyone has a large budget (i.e. if &#8216;big business&#8217; has a lot of money, then I&#8217;m pretty certain this socialist government has enough money to promote its own ideas) or everyone has a limited budget. One or the other, but note that whil eoy uneed mponey to promote your ideas, acceptance of the idea is based on the idea itself. Plenty of people rejected both the ideas from the businessmen from the EB as well as Labour&#8217;s own policies. Nothing wrong with that; in fact, it indicates a healthy democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: krazykiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340745</link>
		<dc:creator>krazykiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 22:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340745</guid>
		<description>Graeme, what about &quot;Don&#039;t vote for [insert party name], because they [insert failings] and [insert more failings]&quot; ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graeme, what about &#8220;Don&#8217;t vote for [insert party name], because they [insert failings] and [insert more failings]&#8221; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Edgeler</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340744</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Edgeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340744</guid>
		<description>If it promotes a stance at the moment e.g. &quot;vote for a party that will keep NZ GE free&quot; then you don&#039;t need permission from the party concerned.

If it promotes a party e.g. &quot;vote for National&quot; then you do need permission from National.

This does not change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it promotes a stance at the moment e.g. &#8220;vote for a party that will keep NZ GE free&#8221; then you don&#8217;t need permission from the party concerned.</p>
<p>If it promotes a party e.g. &#8220;vote for National&#8221; then you do need permission from National.</p>
<p>This does not change.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340743</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Perhaps the defenders of the Bill and the Bill itself were formed in a similar philophical mould: Confuse/deny/evade/deflect and corrupt….?&quot;

They are. The philosophy/ ideology is commonly referred to as communist, but goes under many pseudonyms, such as &quot;progressive, liberal, socialist, etc&quot;. Where one professes to care for some ideal, and speaks in humanistic terms of preserving that ideal, whilst all the while working furtively and gradually to destroy it.

The strategy could be called Mugabean, or Chavezian, or (now) Klarkovian..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Perhaps the defenders of the Bill and the Bill itself were formed in a similar philophical mould: Confuse/deny/evade/deflect and corrupt….?&#8221;</p>
<p>They are. The philosophy/ ideology is commonly referred to as communist, but goes under many pseudonyms, such as &#8220;progressive, liberal, socialist, etc&#8221;. Where one professes to care for some ideal, and speaks in humanistic terms of preserving that ideal, whilst all the while working furtively and gradually to destroy it.</p>
<p>The strategy could be called Mugabean, or Chavezian, or (now) Klarkovian..</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340742</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Kevin - that fishhook is in the current law.&quot;

I&#039;m puzzled by this. How can that be an enforceable law. A person may publish a pamphlet advocating a political stance but not endorsing any party. (no particular party may be attractive) What&#039;s the deal then??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kevin &#8211; that fishhook is in the current law.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m puzzled by this. How can that be an enforceable law. A person may publish a pamphlet advocating a political stance but not endorsing any party. (no particular party may be attractive) What&#8217;s the deal then??</p>
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		<title>By: Graeme Edgeler</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340739</link>
		<dc:creator>Graeme Edgeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin - that fishhook is in the current law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin &#8211; that fishhook is in the current law.</p>
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		<title>By: KevinOB</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340738</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinOB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had my turn at the hearings.
Actually read most of the Bill. It&#039;s worse than we believed. It&#039;s well drafted and provides a good framework but the definitions are to tight. Someone has put a lot of work into this Bill; there would have been months of work. More importantly law draftsmen don&#039;t make decisions on policy. 

There is a clever hidden fishhook: cl. 55. requires all promoters (i.e. anyone initiating) an electoral advertisement (doing anything during the regulated [muzzled] period) to have it agreed to in writing  by the political party it promotes (encourages). The ambiguity lets this one slip under the radar. The effect is that all third party spending or activity is required to be approved by the relevant party it promotes and included in its counted expenditure. So no speaking out of place. I don&#039;t know if this was intentional and I told the SC that it might have been. I have seen obscurity used to hide provisions in a NZ tax Bill that the Government wanted, but did want it freely revealed for political reasons (it was a small tax perk to a very small group). I know the drafting tricks that are possible and law draftsmen or any other class or species of genus human charged with the textual construction of such a Bill as may be enacted for the benefit, personal or otherwise of Dear Leader Klark, whether it be solely for her personal benefit or for the benefit of her and any other person including her remote and peculiar husband or any other person or organisation she is associated with or may aid or assist in the constraint, reduction, or dimminuition of the works or personage of any person or body corporate or unincorporate wherever they  may be situated and without limiting the generallity of these provisons in particular Hellensville  and Parnell. Read the small print too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had my turn at the hearings.<br />
Actually read most of the Bill. It&#8217;s worse than we believed. It&#8217;s well drafted and provides a good framework but the definitions are to tight. Someone has put a lot of work into this Bill; there would have been months of work. More importantly law draftsmen don&#8217;t make decisions on policy. </p>
<p>There is a clever hidden fishhook: cl. 55. requires all promoters (i.e. anyone initiating) an electoral advertisement (doing anything during the regulated [muzzled] period) to have it agreed to in writing  by the political party it promotes (encourages). The ambiguity lets this one slip under the radar. The effect is that all third party spending or activity is required to be approved by the relevant party it promotes and included in its counted expenditure. So no speaking out of place. I don&#8217;t know if this was intentional and I told the SC that it might have been. I have seen obscurity used to hide provisions in a NZ tax Bill that the Government wanted, but did want it freely revealed for political reasons (it was a small tax perk to a very small group). I know the drafting tricks that are possible and law draftsmen or any other class or species of genus human charged with the textual construction of such a Bill as may be enacted for the benefit, personal or otherwise of Dear Leader Klark, whether it be solely for her personal benefit or for the benefit of her and any other person including her remote and peculiar husband or any other person or organisation she is associated with or may aid or assist in the constraint, reduction, or dimminuition of the works or personage of any person or body corporate or unincorporate wherever they  may be situated and without limiting the generallity of these provisons in particular Hellensville  and Parnell. Read the small print too!</p>
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		<title>By: Lee C</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340737</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roger and out, as they say...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger and out, as they say&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lee C</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/electoral_finance_bill_submissions.html#comment-340736</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 21:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, I have made it my new year&#039;s resolution to essentially ignore sonic and rogernome on this issue in this blog. Not because I seek to limit their freedom of expression as they would mine, but because they are abusing the very freedoms of speech they would so gleefully deny me, were their buddies in Parliament to have their way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, I have made it my new year&#8217;s resolution to essentially ignore sonic and rogernome on this issue in this blog. Not because I seek to limit their freedom of expression as they would mine, but because they are abusing the very freedoms of speech they would so gleefully deny me, were their buddies in Parliament to have their way.</p>
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