Great Quote
Whale Oil has this quote from Bill English in Parliament:
Hon Bill English: Can we now sum up the Minister’s and Labour’s position on tax cuts in the following way: he said he could not and he would not, then he said he cannot and he shall not, then he said he could and he would, and now he might when it is right, and why does he not listen to those New Zealanders who are telling him he is wrong and he is gone, and his Labour colleagues who are saying that he is tired and should be fired?
Put that on a pledge card!
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September 20th, 2007 at 7:15 am
Cullen will survive Helen after she retires next year. They all love him too much to dump him.
September 20th, 2007 at 7:32 am
“he might when it is right, and why does he not listen to those New Zealanders who are telling him he is wrong and he is gone, and his Labour colleagues who are saying that he is tired and should be fired?”
Is English channeling the Cat in the Hat?
September 20th, 2007 at 7:38 am
Nah he’s channelling annette king I think.
September 20th, 2007 at 7:38 am
sonic, snap. the same thought before i read comments. but think it’s more Green Eggs and Ham
September 20th, 2007 at 7:43 am
Hmm, in fact English’s constant prodding of Cullen on this issue reminds one rather forcefully of “Green Eggs and Ham,” even before he got onto the rhymes. Cullen should try responding in kind: I tell you Mr English, I do not like Green Eggs and Ham – sorry, tax cuts…”
September 20th, 2007 at 7:55 am
Tax Cuts and Sham
“Could you would you for your Nation?”
“I would not, could not because of inflation”
“Could you would you for re-election?”
“I could do, would do ‘cos of my predilection”
September 20th, 2007 at 7:55 am
I do not want, to have a tax cut
So you, Mr English, can get to ****
September 20th, 2007 at 7:56 am
Brilliant
September 20th, 2007 at 8:18 am
Hey Sonic – can I have your tax cut please? Direct credit, cash or cheque is fine by me.
I presume you don’t want tax relief either, so you can send that to me too.
September 20th, 2007 at 8:25 am
I can haz tax cutz??
LOLz!!1!
September 20th, 2007 at 8:25 am
I was musing on what Cullen’s reply would be Spam, sorry for the confusion.
September 20th, 2007 at 8:27 am
For Dan!
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September 20th, 2007 at 8:36 am
Definition of ‘pistachio’ from Wikipedia:
The fruit is a drupe, containing an elongated seed (a nut in the culinary sense, but not a true botanical nut) with a hard, whitish shell and a striking kernel which has a mauvish skin and light green flesh, with a particular characteristic flavour.
When the fruit ripens, the husk changes from green to an autumnal yellow/red and the shells split partially open. This happens with an audible pop.
I’ve written to Wikipedia to remind them that sonic is hung like one.
September 20th, 2007 at 8:40 am
clock’s ticking, sonic…
September 20th, 2007 at 8:42 am
I enjoyed Dr Cullen’s reply to the Hon Bill English:
Hon Dr MICHAEL CULLEN: Like the member, of course, that was a heavily recycled joke.
September 20th, 2007 at 8:48 am
I can dig that.
September 20th, 2007 at 8:50 am
Sorry Lee you thought that was worthy of a response?
September 20th, 2007 at 9:07 am
Might be time to try another tack lee, the pistachio one just ain’t so hilarious anymore, if it ever in fact was.
September 20th, 2007 at 9:21 am
Sez you, helmet. I had great fun with sonic yesterday. His ‘monkeys with typewriters’ riposte had me chuckling all the way home.
I couldn’t stop saying it to myself and laughing. I cut and paste it and put it in my ’special stuff’ folder.
Take this as case in point: sonic doesn’t realise that by asking me if I thought ‘that was worthy of a response?’ he was actually giving me a response.
Ok I’ll stop now. Sorry.
September 20th, 2007 at 9:40 am
“Is English channeling the Cat in the Hat?”
Is that anything like talking to rabbits?
September 20th, 2007 at 10:06 am
Lee- each to their own I suppose.
September 20th, 2007 at 10:13 am
Ratbiters latest election poster
September 20th, 2007 at 10:13 am
Why don’t some fellow labourites agree with me when I stick my neck out and say what we are thinking?
Is it that bad to admit it is better to give some tax relief especially when odviously the Nats are going to.
The tax cut issue is very touchy I know but I personally think that we need to do a tax cut across the board even if we have defer some other expenditure to provide it.
And Sonic, be fair secretly we do want some tax reduction just not to the extremes the right trolls pontificate about.
September 20th, 2007 at 10:14 am
the delivery of this extremely ‘tired’/recycled joke by english set new benchmarks in ‘laboured’..
english stood there puffing up his balloon..
self-satisfaction spilling all over his face..
and..quick as..cullen picked up his needle..
and that was that..
but the real demolishing in yesterdays’ questiontime..was english serving his/keys/nationals/war-mongering lies up on a platter to goff..
who then’did the deed’ on/to english/key/national..
and in his turn..goff was pinned/(ably) harrassed by sue kedgely..and got all/quite ‘hot ‘n bothered’..
but hey..!..english should just taiho with the one-liners..eh..?
they just aren’t his forte..eh..?
he’s as funny as mud..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 20th, 2007 at 10:17 am
Flagging Red Dog, not at the expense of services I don’t certainly. It’s more important to me, for example, that the local hospital is well funded than me having another $10 in my pocket a week.
Even from a selfish point of view that $10 is not going to be much use to me if I get ill.
September 20th, 2007 at 10:20 am
Philu what do you think about what I have posted above.
As to what you said about Goff I think he has to be given more responsibility he performs far better than Dr Cullen now who is starting to show a wariness around the whole of Parliament.
September 20th, 2007 at 10:22 am
oh no, sonic has a pussy fetish. that’s twice so far today
September 20th, 2007 at 10:26 am
Sonic absolutely agree as to Hospital care I definitely do not agree with a reduction their at all in fact I think we are starting to go well with increased Vote Health funding.
I was thinking more of reductions in Capital works for some other areas of Govt funding that could be deferred to keep the public more on side.
I don’t need the $10.00 a week but a lot of our core voters badly need it.
September 20th, 2007 at 10:32 am
Fair enough. But funding provided and value delivered are not directly co-related. If they were, the massive increase in health funding would have delivered better services. They haven’t. Yet labour supporters always moan on about how any spending decrease would decrease services. Utter rubbish.
I would have thought that cyanide pills cost less than $10 each.
September 20th, 2007 at 10:37 am
Appoligies, well off topic (health etc).
Note to self: don’t follow the troll trail.
September 20th, 2007 at 10:38 am
i disagree with you..frd..
you aren’t believing/swallowing nationals’ chimera of tax cuts..and increases in spending..?..are you..?
and listen..by the second half of next year there could be a few more housing/economic/environmental issues..
that will be causing far more consternation..that the whys and wherefores of a paltry $10 a week tax cut..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 20th, 2007 at 10:43 am
I agree with sonic too, but also with Flagging Red Dog.
But it need not be an either/or argument.
It is possible to increase efficiency for example in the Health Service. One of the biggest drains on any business is the training of new staff, ergo it makes sense to retain old fully trained staff by incentivising them through better wages and conditions.
One of the mantras trotted out by the present lot is that in order for tax cuts to happen, some service or other must suffer. Yet they make services suffer themselves with their cavalier attitude to the greatest of all resources the workers. If this is not the case, why do we have threatened strikes by Doctors, Teachers and Hospital workers for example? If our tax dollars are being so usefully employed, why did they cut funding to Plunkett last year? Or to bring it down a peg or two, When that lady died last year because she couldn’t pay her electricity bill why was her husband obliged to be taking industrial action because he was working for subsistence wages?
After eight years of ’socialist’ government. And a surplus of billions in the election chest. And what will they spend it on? Television Adverts telling us how lucky we are to have them!
If this bunch of gravy sucking pigs lot are socialists, I think it is time to get the term redefined in the Oxford English.
September 20th, 2007 at 10:48 am
and frd..the second part of yr statement re cullen vs goff in the house..
and that goff out-performs’ cullen..(!)
i watch/live-comment every questiontime..
and tho’ i disagree with much cullen says..
if you want (recent) proof cullen is still the ‘master’..
and goff still his apprentice..
go and watch yesterdays’ questiontime..
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 20th, 2007 at 10:50 am
lee c said..
“..if this bunch of gravy sucking pigs lot are socialists, I think it is time to get the term redefined in the Oxford English..”
(heh-heh..!..)
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 20th, 2007 at 11:07 am
“It’s more important to me, for example, that the local hospital is well funded than me having another $10 in my pocket a week.”
Except that its not your $10, its other people’s money. One day socialists will realize that stealing from people pisses them off, and they either stop producing or head for more friendlier climes. When they do this, health services are broken. Press on tho fuckwit. Power is of course your real obsession, and with socialists, will always take priority over the future welfare of NZers.
September 20th, 2007 at 11:36 am
So Sonic doesn’t want a tax cut, why would you when you live off the taxpayer. Easier to type shit on Kiwiblog and live off the crumbs dropped from the mistresses table.
September 20th, 2007 at 11:38 am
ah..!..there they are..!
two of our ‘voices of reason’..
one after the other..
(heh-eh..!..)
cold-war-rhetoric-alert..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 20th, 2007 at 11:46 am
Philu, I also am able to observe QT from time to time and have formed my view from observing Cullen/Goff in action at QT but how do I watch question time yesterday ?[I only thought you could see it live]
If poss I’ll look at yesterday and comment back.
September 20th, 2007 at 11:58 am
GO to the TVNz website red dog – look in the politics section. They have caches of the last 3 question times – but don;t always update them quickly
September 20th, 2007 at 12:23 pm
Michael Cullen is the No 1 problem in her Government reshuffle if she wants to freshen her Ministry. But replace him with whom. There was a cackhanded attempt to replace him with Mallard but that is long dead. No doubt if she wants to replace Cullen then those rumours about his health will start up again.
September 20th, 2007 at 12:24 pm
Insider; Tried that it clearly says thy no longer archive it.
Philu ,does Parliaments new broadcasting branch archive it for the public or where do you mean from?
September 20th, 2007 at 12:31 pm
apologies..i didn’t realise tvnz don’t still archive..
and..dunno..i suggest checking the website..emailing them..?
let us know how you get on.
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 20th, 2007 at 12:35 pm
“apologies..i didn’t realise tvnz don’t still archive..”
In terms of what you (plural) don’t realize, you’re talking the tip of the iceberg..
September 20th, 2007 at 12:49 pm
many of the exchanges about this bill are online at National’s YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/nationalparty
September 20th, 2007 at 6:41 pm
did everyone get that sniff of the alonquin..?
be dazzled by the sparkling wit/repartee of the ratbiter..!
phil(whoar.co.nz)
September 20th, 2007 at 11:55 pm
Helen dealing to Burton over the EFB after it has been revealed that the bill does not prevent the EB’s from advertising again.
She hissed and he missed
She screamed and he dreamed
She aimed and he feigned
She cursed and he burst
and to quote Bill English yesterday with amendments for EB’s
Can we now sum up the Minister’s and Labour’s position on “Exclusive Brethren” in the following way:
He said they could not and they would not,
Then he said they cannot and they shall not,
Then he said they could and they would,
And now they might when it is right,
And why does he not listen to those New Zealanders who are telling him he is wrong and he is gone, and his Labour colleagues who are saying that he is tired and should be fired?
September 21st, 2007 at 3:37 pm
The windfall profits to the state owned generators which will be generated by the Carbon Trade impact on electricity prices will pour extra dividends and taxes into the government coffers and the NZCSC calculations show that these will easily cover any tax cuts Cullens seems to have in mind.
They may not be pusing carbon neutrality very hard but I am sure Cullen is keen on Tax neutrality.