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		<title>By: Owen McShane</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-342397</link>
		<dc:creator>Owen McShane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The windfall profits to the state owned generators which will be generated by the Carbon Trade impact on electricity prices will pour extra dividends and taxes into the government coffers and the NZCSC calculations show that these will easily cover any tax cuts Cullens seems to have in mind.
They may not be pusing carbon neutrality very hard but I am sure Cullen is keen on Tax neutrality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The windfall profits to the state owned generators which will be generated by the Carbon Trade impact on electricity prices will pour extra dividends and taxes into the government coffers and the NZCSC calculations show that these will easily cover any tax cuts Cullens seems to have in mind.<br />
They may not be pusing carbon neutrality very hard but I am sure Cullen is keen on Tax neutrality.</p>
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		<title>By: Castafiore</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-342158</link>
		<dc:creator>Castafiore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 11:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen dealing to Burton over the EFB after it has been revealed that the bill does not prevent the EB&#039;s from advertising again.
 
She hissed and he missed
She screamed and he dreamed
She aimed and he feigned
She cursed and he burst

and to quote Bill English yesterday with amendments for EB’s

Can we now sum up the Minister’s and Labour’s position on “Exclusive Brethren” in the following way:
He said they could not and they would not, 
Then he said they cannot and they shall not, 
Then he said they could and they would, 
And now they might when it is right, 
And why does he not listen to those New Zealanders who are telling him he is wrong and he is gone, and his Labour colleagues who are saying that he is tired and should be fired?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen dealing to Burton over the EFB after it has been revealed that the bill does not prevent the EB&#8217;s from advertising again.</p>
<p>She hissed and he missed<br />
She screamed and he dreamed<br />
She aimed and he feigned<br />
She cursed and he burst</p>
<p>and to quote Bill English yesterday with amendments for EB’s</p>
<p>Can we now sum up the Minister’s and Labour’s position on “Exclusive Brethren” in the following way:<br />
He said they could not and they would not,<br />
Then he said they cannot and they shall not,<br />
Then he said they could and they would,<br />
And now they might when it is right,<br />
And why does he not listen to those New Zealanders who are telling him he is wrong and he is gone, and his Labour colleagues who are saying that he is tired and should be fired?</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-342083</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did everyone get that sniff of the alonquin..?

be dazzled by the sparkling wit/repartee of the ratbiter..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did everyone get that sniff of the alonquin..?</p>
<p>be dazzled by the sparkling wit/repartee of the ratbiter..!</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: francis</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341962</link>
		<dc:creator>francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>many of the exchanges about this bill are online at National&#039;s YouTube channel: www.youtube.com/nationalparty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>many of the exchanges about this bill are online at National&#8217;s YouTube channel: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/nationalparty" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/nationalparty</a></p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341955</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;apologies..i didn’t realise tvnz don’t still archive..&quot;

In terms of what you (plural) don&#039;t realize, you&#039;re talking the tip of the iceberg..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;apologies..i didn’t realise tvnz don’t still archive..&#8221;</p>
<p>In terms of what you (plural) don&#8217;t realize, you&#8217;re talking the tip of the iceberg..</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341954</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>apologies..i didn&#039;t realise tvnz don&#039;t still archive..

and..dunno..i suggest checking the website..emailing them..?

let us know how you get on.

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>apologies..i didn&#8217;t realise tvnz don&#8217;t still archive..</p>
<p>and..dunno..i suggest checking the website..emailing them..?</p>
<p>let us know how you get on.</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Flagging Red Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341949</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagging Red Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Insider; Tried that it clearly says thy no longer archive it.
Philu ,does Parliaments new broadcasting branch archive it for the public or where do you mean from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Insider; Tried that it clearly says thy no longer archive it.<br />
Philu ,does Parliaments new broadcasting branch archive it for the public or where do you mean from?</p>
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		<title>By: tim barclay</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341948</link>
		<dc:creator>tim barclay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 00:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Cullen is the No 1 problem in her Government reshuffle if she wants to freshen her Ministry.  But replace him with whom.  There was a cackhanded attempt to replace him with Mallard but that is long dead.  No doubt if she wants to replace Cullen then those rumours about his health will start up again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Cullen is the No 1 problem in her Government reshuffle if she wants to freshen her Ministry.  But replace him with whom.  There was a cackhanded attempt to replace him with Mallard but that is long dead.  No doubt if she wants to replace Cullen then those rumours about his health will start up again.</p>
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		<title>By: insider</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341945</link>
		<dc:creator>insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GO to the TVNz website red dog - look in the politics section. They have caches of the last 3 question times - but don;t always update them quickly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GO to the TVNz website red dog &#8211; look in the politics section. They have caches of the last 3 question times &#8211; but don;t always update them quickly</p>
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		<title>By: Flagging Red Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341937</link>
		<dc:creator>Flagging Red Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philu, I also am able to observe QT from time to time and have formed my view from observing Cullen/Goff in action at QT but how do I watch question time yesterday ?[I only thought you could see it live]
If poss I&#039;ll look at yesterday and comment back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philu, I also am able to observe QT from time to time and have formed my view from observing Cullen/Goff in action at QT but how do I watch question time yesterday ?[I only thought you could see it live]<br />
If poss I&#8217;ll look at yesterday and comment back.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341936</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ah..!..there they are..!

two of our &#039;voices of reason&#039;..

one after the other..

(heh-eh..!..)

cold-war-rhetoric-alert..!

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ah..!..there they are..!</p>
<p>two of our &#8216;voices of reason&#8217;..</p>
<p>one after the other..</p>
<p>(heh-eh..!..)</p>
<p>cold-war-rhetoric-alert..!</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: side show bob</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341934</link>
		<dc:creator>side show bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Sonic doesn&#039;t want a tax cut, why would you when you live off the taxpayer. Easier to type shit on Kiwiblog and live off the crumbs dropped from the mistresses table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Sonic doesn&#8217;t want a tax cut, why would you when you live off the taxpayer. Easier to type shit on Kiwiblog and live off the crumbs dropped from the mistresses table.</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341926</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s more important to me, for example, that the local hospital is well funded than me having another $10 in my pocket a week.&quot;

Except that its not your $10, its other people&#039;s money. One day socialists will realize that stealing from people pisses them off, and they either stop producing or head for more friendlier climes. When they do this, health services are broken. Press on tho fuckwit. Power is of course your real obsession, and with socialists, will always take priority over the future welfare of NZers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s more important to me, for example, that the local hospital is well funded than me having another $10 in my pocket a week.&#8221;</p>
<p>Except that its not your $10, its other people&#8217;s money. One day socialists will realize that stealing from people pisses them off, and they either stop producing or head for more friendlier climes. When they do this, health services are broken. Press on tho fuckwit. Power is of course your real obsession, and with socialists, will always take priority over the future welfare of NZers.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341921</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lee c said..

&quot;..if this bunch of gravy sucking pigs lot are socialists, I think it is time to get the term redefined in the Oxford English..&quot;

(heh-heh..!..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lee c said..</p>
<p>&#8220;..if this bunch of gravy sucking pigs lot are socialists, I think it is time to get the term redefined in the Oxford English..&#8221;</p>
<p>(heh-heh..!..)</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341919</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and frd..the second part of yr statement re cullen vs goff in the house..

and that goff out-performs&#039; cullen..(!)

i watch/live-comment every questiontime..

and tho&#039; i disagree with much cullen says..

if you want (recent) proof cullen is still the &#039;master&#039;..

and goff still his apprentice..

go and watch yesterdays&#039; questiontime..

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and frd..the second part of yr statement re cullen vs goff in the house..</p>
<p>and that goff out-performs&#8217; cullen..(!)</p>
<p>i watch/live-comment every questiontime..</p>
<p>and tho&#8217; i disagree with much cullen says..</p>
<p>if you want (recent) proof cullen is still the &#8216;master&#8217;..</p>
<p>and goff still his apprentice..</p>
<p>go and watch yesterdays&#8217; questiontime..</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Lee C</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341918</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with sonic too, but also with Flagging Red Dog.

But it need not be an either/or argument.  
It is possible to increase efficiency for example in the Health Service.  One of the biggest drains on any business is the training of new staff, ergo it makes sense to retain old fully trained staff by incentivising them through better wages and conditions.  
One of the mantras trotted out by the present lot is that in order for tax cuts to happen, some service or other must suffer.  Yet they make services suffer themselves with their cavalier attitude to the greatest of all resources the workers.  If this is not the case, why do we have threatened strikes by Doctors, Teachers and Hospital workers  for example?  If our tax dollars are being so usefully employed, why did they cut funding to Plunkett last year?  Or to bring it down a peg or two, When that lady died last year because she couldn&#039;t pay her electricity bill why was her husband obliged to be taking industrial action because he was working for subsistence wages?
After eight years of &#039;socialist&#039; government.  And a surplus of billions in the election chest.  And what will they spend it on?  Television Adverts telling us how lucky we are to have them!

If this bunch of gravy sucking pigs  lot are socialists, I think it is time to get the term redefined in the Oxford English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with sonic too, but also with Flagging Red Dog.</p>
<p>But it need not be an either/or argument.<br />
It is possible to increase efficiency for example in the Health Service.  One of the biggest drains on any business is the training of new staff, ergo it makes sense to retain old fully trained staff by incentivising them through better wages and conditions.<br />
One of the mantras trotted out by the present lot is that in order for tax cuts to happen, some service or other must suffer.  Yet they make services suffer themselves with their cavalier attitude to the greatest of all resources the workers.  If this is not the case, why do we have threatened strikes by Doctors, Teachers and Hospital workers  for example?  If our tax dollars are being so usefully employed, why did they cut funding to Plunkett last year?  Or to bring it down a peg or two, When that lady died last year because she couldn&#8217;t pay her electricity bill why was her husband obliged to be taking industrial action because he was working for subsistence wages?<br />
After eight years of &#8217;socialist&#8217; government.  And a surplus of billions in the election chest.  And what will they spend it on?  Television Adverts telling us how lucky we are to have them!</p>
<p>If this bunch of gravy sucking pigs  lot are socialists, I think it is time to get the term redefined in the Oxford English.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341915</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i disagree with you..frd..

you aren&#039;t believing/swallowing nationals&#039; chimera of tax cuts..and increases in spending..?..are you..?

and listen..by the second half of next year there could be a few more housing/economic/environmental issues..

that will be causing far more consternation..that the whys and wherefores of a paltry $10 a week tax cut..

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i disagree with you..frd..</p>
<p>you aren&#8217;t believing/swallowing nationals&#8217; chimera of tax cuts..and increases in spending..?..are you..?</p>
<p>and listen..by the second half of next year there could be a few more housing/economic/environmental issues..</p>
<p>that will be causing far more consternation..that the whys and wherefores of a paltry $10 a week tax cut..</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: krazykiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341914</link>
		<dc:creator>krazykiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appoligies, well off topic (health etc). 
Note to self: don&#039;t follow the troll trail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appoligies, well off topic (health etc).<br />
Note to self: don&#8217;t follow the troll trail.</p>
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		<title>By: krazykiwi</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/09/great_quote-2.html#comment-341912</link>
		<dc:creator>krazykiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;not at the expense of services I don’t certainly. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Fair enough. But &lt;i&gt;funding provided&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;value delivered&lt;/i&gt; are not directly co-related. If they were, the massive increase in health funding would have delivered better services. They haven&#039;t. Yet labour supporters always moan on about how any spending decrease would decrease services. Utter rubbish.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Even from a selfish point of view that $10 is not going to be much use to me if I get ill&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I would have thought that cyanide pills cost less than $10 each.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>not at the expense of services I don’t certainly. </p></blockquote>
<p>Fair enough. But <i>funding provided</i> and <i>value delivered</i> are not directly co-related. If they were, the massive increase in health funding would have delivered better services. They haven&#8217;t. Yet labour supporters always moan on about how any spending decrease would decrease services. Utter rubbish.</p>
<blockquote><p>Even from a selfish point of view that $10 is not going to be much use to me if I get ill</p></blockquote>
<p>I would have thought that cyanide pills cost less than $10 each.</p>
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		<title>By: Flagging Red Dog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flagging Red Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonic absolutely agree as to Hospital care I definitely do not agree with a reduction their at all in fact I think we are starting to go well with increased Vote Health funding.

I was thinking more of reductions in Capital works for some other areas of Govt funding that could be deferred to keep the public more on side.  

I don’t need the $10.00 a week but a lot of our core voters badly need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonic absolutely agree as to Hospital care I definitely do not agree with a reduction their at all in fact I think we are starting to go well with increased Vote Health funding.</p>
<p>I was thinking more of reductions in Capital works for some other areas of Govt funding that could be deferred to keep the public more on side.  </p>
<p>I don’t need the $10.00 a week but a lot of our core voters badly need it.</p>
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