Conservative Home covers Key in the UK

October 21st, 2007 at 1:43 pm by David Farrar

Conservative Home covers the latest meeting between John Key and David Cameron.

David Cameron has had a fairly rough period since Gordon Brown took over, but he has weathered it well, and Brown is now the subject of intense criticism for his flip-flop on holding an early election.  He has also just agreed to cede more powers to the EU, despite having promised a referendum on such issues. So the next round of polls in the UK will be interesting. The last one has the Tories 7% ahead.

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7 Responses to “Conservative Home covers Key in the UK”

  1. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    “He has also just agreed to cede more powers to the EU.”

    what does this mean,, British Labour party are turning to the EC?

    Britain has resisted so staunchly, and there is talk of Europe rescinding the Euro because it simply is not working.

    Why would Labour start bowing to Europe? quite pointless.

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  2. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    “Commenting on the comparisons often drawn between the two men, Key said:”I think there are a reasonable number of similarities – ” ”

    The prime one being they are both gutless weaseling compromisers almost totally bereft of political focus. The message they articulate is only a hollow echo of the same socially destructive leftist bullshit that has over the last fifty years or more, incrementally crippled both NZ and the UK.

    Somewhere, there must be a man.

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  3. roger nome (4,067 comments) says:

    “The prime one being they are both gutless weaseling compromisers almost totally bereft of political focus.”

    Unlike redbaiter – who has a myopic focus on destroying an imagined world-wide communist conspiracy :-)

    oh and welcome back redbaiter!

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  4. Sam Dixon (596 comments) says:

    interesting for quickly this shift from Labour to Converstaive happened – seems to be just over this early election issue. Once things get back to substantive issues would expect the situation to return.

    The British Conservatives face a problem with election mathematics, just like the National Party here.

    While National needs to win 47%+ to be sure of governing because it lacks allies, the problem for the Conservatives is that Westminster still uses FPP: last election, the Conservatives won 32.3% of the vote to Labour’s 35.3% for Labour but won only 30.&% of seats to Labour’s 50.7% (the Lib Dems had it even worse,22.1% of votes, 9.6% of seats)…

    the Conversatives would need to win more votes than Labour a decent margin to more seats.

    And even then, unless the conservatives somehow had close to a majority of seats, the likely government woud be a Labour-Lib Dem arrangement.

    FPP, aren’t you glad we got rid of it?

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  5. David Farrar (1,900 comments) says:

    Yes FPP in the UK means the Conservatives have to beat Labour by around 8% to get more seats than them. A bit less now since the new boundaries.

    I’m no advocate for going back to FPP, but would point out that in the UK, the Lib Dems would hold near permanent power if they had MMP.

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  6. tim barclay (886 comments) says:

    I think minor parties with too much power get the squeeze as is happening in NZ. Voters are fed up with Winston Peters holding the balance of power and then deciding the outcome of the election. Or Peter Dunne saying he (above everyone else) stands for common sense, and then throwing a hissy fit on election night when the voters thought otherwise. But I think Brown is a gonner. A scot PM was always going to be a hard sell for the Labour Party and it has got even harder.

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  7. Ross Miller (1,705 comments) says:

    Sam Dixon … if you look at the UK Polls there had been on long term shift to the Conservatives. Sure, there were blips along the way due to Tory Party infighting and probably that will continue off and on with tensions between the ‘modernisers’ and the ‘traditionalists’.

    However, the swing back to Labour was almost entirely due to the ‘dead cat’ bounce that occured when Brown took over the leadership … and then he funked his first big test.

    The collateral fallout from that ‘funking’ was the day of the long knives when the Lib Dems dumped the ‘Ming’ but whether that leads to a revival of that Party remains to be seen.

    However that plays out will likely see both the Conservatives and the Lib Dems lead by new generation politicians while Labour is stuck in a time warp …. as they are here.

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