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It’s not as if we don’t have problems with suicidal youth, the mentally unhinged, and substance abusers, who are just not safe with an ongoing diet of propaganda about how everything that’s wrong with their life is the fault of “the rich”, males, or honkies.

now who is violent?

“A very, very silly political movement that rationalises Palestinian suicide bombing and the Sept 11 attacks is morally capable of anything ultimately.”

Oh dear.

I too doubt that there was a murderous plot being hatched on Abel Smith St and other such places; out in the back blocks of the Ureweras I’m not so confident. I’ll not be surprised, should a murderous plot have been hatched, that some anarchist/anti-captalist had provided illegal assistance even if they had little idea of the end goals.

yet this has little bearing on Don Brash’s or John Key’s propensity to do violence.

i.e. Some free-market advocates, Pinochet comes to mind, have murdered, tortured and imprisoned hundreds of people …..

Why? I know many of the arrested – and you don’t – So I undoubtedly know them better than you. As to some German anarchists protesting in Genoa who may or may not have broken some windows – well that’s a moot point – and largely irrelevant to the people we’re discussing.

i.e. Some free-market advocates, Pinochet comes to mind, have murdered, tortured and imprisoned hundreds of prisoners, yet this has little bearing on whether say Don Brash or John Key’s propensity to do violence.

Nope, but I’m guessing you don’t know everyone involved in the ‘movement’.

In any case I’m simply speculating how on how some anarchists may have become linked to the people playing soldiers.

As Sam Buchanan says in the SST today, “Our opposition to authority and domination leads us to become involved in feminist, anti-military and anti-colonial movements, and to oppose racism and abuse. Anarchists are also involved in mutual aid projects… .” http://www.stuff.co.nz/4245650a10.html

To be quite frank Mr Buchanan does look like the sort who holds a few silly beliefs. Who’s to say that the even dafter fringes of his ilk haven’t got in over their heads in something very silly.

yeah,, I thought that was a mouthful myself.

people get so inside themselves

There’s actually a difference between all of us (Richard, Phillip John and me) speculating about anarchists – and Phillip John speculating about me. I think I know myself better than Phillip John.

Phillip John/Roger Nome:

Richard’s opinion is equally valid whether or not he moves in the same circles as you.

If Richards opinion on anarchists is as vaild as Roger Nomes, then Roger Nomes opinion of you is as equally valid as your own.

Why so defensive POC? Something tells me I wasn’t too far from the truth.

Too far from what exactly? That I’m white and from an economically privileged [note the correct spelling - as you seem to make this mistake quite often] background?

You don’t know about my life and my circumstances – so best not to speculate.

But if they were for terrorist-related matters it was a huge under-response. You don’t take a news crew in for terrorists for a start.

Let us explore this theory:

The nature of the crimes were not organised or coordinated enough to constitute terrorism.

However, in order to coordinate a crack-down of this nature, it was considered expedient by someone to treat it as a terror alert.

The police thoght well, if that’s how it’s going to be portrayed, we’d better not cock-up.

So they went in with the proverbial hammer to crack the ….etc.

End result?

Someone gets to:

1) bask in a bit of international media attention adn take some attention from less deserving types in Fiji
2) look like they are ‘down’ with the international community when it comes to dealing with terrorists (look good on the UN -application CV)
3) is not around to answer any embarrassing questions from the NZ media
4) hold a bit of debating trump card over the Maori party (see EB=National =rort)
5) stir up middle NZ 10 times more effectively and cynically than any ‘Orewa’ speech
6) stifle left-wing criticism of the Suppression of Terrorism Bill
7) I can’t think of a number 7 but you get my drift.

Like I said if it was a criminal matter it was heavy-handed. But if it was a terrorism matter only one person could have sanctioned it:

was Helen completely oblivious of this situation? See link shown prior…which says:

“Director DESG:
The Director is responsible for providing timely, rigorous, relevant and accurate advice to the Prime Minister on issues affecting the security of New Zealand including policy, legislative, operational and budgetary aspects. A key role is to support the Prime Minister in leading a coherent and immediate national response to security crises and emergencies, and ensure the Prime Minister is kept informed of significant issues in these areas.”

Well whaddayathink?

Why so defensive POC? Something tells me I wasn’t too far from the truth.

Yes – people I know have been locked up – and I’m suspecting on extremely dodgy grounds. I’m worried about them, and the future of our ability to engage in protest and civil disobedience – two very important democratic rights.

“Would you be kind enough to let on the current 9th floor spin on this issue as Selma’s not talking to me at present.”

Mate – save the tinfoil for the baked potatoes will you?