New Blogs
Molesworth and Featherston in their latest issue, noted:
Blogging back
We’re fascinated to watch Labour’s fightback in the blogosphere, with the launch of a partyaligned blog, The Standard. Labour has trailed among bloggers, leaving commentary on the left to the likes of more left No Right Turn and the Greens’ Frog Blog. Commentator Russell Brown’s Public Address is the granddaddy of New Zealand blogs, and sympathetic to Labour, but National has been reaping the gains of an enormous readership for David Farrar’s Kiwiblog – its daily readership rivals a modest daily newspaper.
Just as important as their enormous readership, though, the blogs are influencing editorial content. Where they once drew their cues from mainly from talkback, reporters are now also daily watching the main blogs as straws in the wind. It helps give editorial weighting to the salience of issues. Labour scored a hit with a brutal (and unfairly edited) video of John Key at the Porirua weekend market. National have owned this space for a while. Blogs aren’t new any more, but their political sophistication, reach and influence is growing.
The challenge partly is also how many stay around after an election. It’s usual as the election gets closer for mroe blogs to appear, but many of the “left” ones took off the moment the election was over. They’re just there for the votes.
Now a group of people seem to be so worried about Kiwiblog that they feel the need to have set up their own blog whose sole role in life is to psycho-analyse Kiwiblog. Hey it’s a free world, and if it brings joy to them – well keeps them off the streets I suppose.
Unfortunately for them though, they have over-active imaginations which would make them eligible for a 9/11 conspiracy group membership.
In one post trying to analyse why I post about VUWSA from time to time, they actually went through the photos from my birthday party, recognised one person there as a former manager of the Vic Uni Union (not VUWSA) and in the best Pink Panther traditions speculated that perhaps he was behind why I posted about VUWSA and not other student associations. I do no exagerate when I say both Chris and I were laughing so hard at this, that it almost hurt. I mean one needs to normally pay for this level of comedy. The geniuses at work ignored the obvious answer that doh I live in Wellington and VUWSA is my local association.
Then in another post, they conclude that my disapproval of National dropping bulk funding, is a smokescreen to cover up that National promised more support to private schools. Okay so get this – the fact I blogged on the parts of National’s policy I disagreed with, and didn’t cover the parts I agreed with – is seen by them as running interference for National!!
The problem with the authors is they are so blindly loyal to their cause, that they really really can not comprehend such a thing as honest opinion.
I was bored enough a few days ago to quite a quick browse though the last fortnigth or so of posts from me. They include:
- Linked to Espiner story heavily criticizing National
- Embedded and dispayed an anti John Key video
- Supported a union organized anti
Burma march - Quoted Hooton praising Labour on climate change
- Criticised National’s handling of health discussion paper
- Advocated for a Republic (out of step with most Nat MPs)
- Praised Govt’s telecommunication reforms
- Praised Govt consultation on compulsory third party car insurance
- Given favourable review of Chris Trotter book
- Supported Labour and Green candidates in local elections
- Post on Labour’s climate change policy where I disagree with National’s policy
- Agreed with Helen Clark with her criticism of John Key re Clint Rickards case
- Linked to NRT post about how National may still struggle to form a Government
- Declared Helen Clark a winner from the Zaoui decision
- Gave Wally of the Week to a National MP
- Disagreed with National on voting for party pill ban legislation
- Said Clark was right not to accept O’Connor resignation
Now don’t get me wrong. I have my biases and my sympathies. I make no claims to be objective. But this blog is about me saying what I think on anything that is of interest to me. It isn’t part of any masterplan. I don’t get talking points from anyone at all. I don’t analyse every post with a filter about how to make National look good. I actually treat my readers with far more respect than that.
So any analysis which starts with a presumption that it is designed purely to gain votes or support for one party, is going to permanently stay flawed. But hey as I said it’s a free world.
UPDATE: Half Done previously covered this also.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:19 pm
The wonderful thing about blogs is that have gone from zero to hero in such a short space in time. I mean previously we of the frothers brigade could only write to the Editor of the local paper to vent our spleens and if they didnt like what we said then tough shit.
Now there is a ready made outlet. It may have also prevented PAMs (potential axe murders) be giving them a less violent means to communicate their objection to well for wnat of a better example The Socialists.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
DPF – I’ve struggled to get through this post. It’s very hard to read. Are you deliberately conflating http://www.thestandard.org.nz with http://www.kiwiblogblog.wordpress.com for some reason or is it just your god awful writing style?
I’ve also noticed there’s not a single link to http://www.thestandard.org.nz in your post. It seem rather odd (not to mention anti-2.0) to discuss blogs without naming them or, in the case of http://www.thestandard.org.nz , linking to them. I’m aware of your proclivity for the memory hole, is this another manifestation of it?
[DPF: I have linked to several posts on The Standard. But when I am quoting a newsletter article, no I don’t usually go through and hyperlink all the subjects talked about. And I am sure Kiwiblogblog is delighted with the boost in readership I have given them.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:22 pm
If you can be such a great target for conspiracy theories you’re probably doing a damn fine job.
You’re right GD, people forget just how free our speech is now.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:30 pm
Kiwiblogblog -what a sad place run by people obviously going through a sad patch in their miserable sad lives.
Hyenas
G
October 5th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Labour did do okay at the last election – I’m reliably informed that attack blog “Keep NZ Left” (or was it Keep Left NZ?) was run out of the Prime Minister’s Office.
Now where’s a piece of legislation to stop that ever happening again?
October 5th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Totally agree with Grant. What a pathetic bunch of miserable whiners, with a healthy dose of jealousy and narcissism.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:33 pm
Never a good look when posts outnumber comments
October 5th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
kiwiblogblog is awesome. entries can be quite long but it is fasinating to see the whole project deconstructed.
Its obviously getting up your nose DPF (and your little toadies, Julian and Grant)
October 5th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
‘the whole project deconstructed’
Apologies – forgot to mention paranoia.
[DPF: Sam Dixon provides superb proof of the point I was making. That total inability to consider there is such a thing as honest opinion on the right. It's sad because one day they will realise that appealing only to those already converted isn't a great strategy.]
October 5th, 2007 at 2:37 pm
Also, what’s this about the film of Key at the market being unfairly editted?
The only why they could know how the raw footage has been slanted is if they have seen it. Is Molesworth and Featherston claiming to have seen the uneditted footage? Becuase I’ll bet my left testicle they haven’t.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
Julian, deconstructing a text isn’t a conspiracy, it’s called post-structural theory. Go read a book.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
sorry if ‘the whole project deconstructed’ is too much fancy speak for you Julian. It doens’t imply conspiracy, nor paranoia on my part.
- I guess what i’m trying to say is its interesting to see how Farrar chooses to run his blog presented in a stripped down manner. when you’re in it you can’t see the forest for the trees. kiwiblogblog gives an external view, and it cracks me up.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
And don’t forget Julian, Tane knows what he is talking about ‘cos he has a Masterate!
October 5th, 2007 at 2:43 pm
What’s a Masterate?
October 5th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
I hadn’t seen Kiwiblogblog before. At first it seemed wry and amusing, but as you scroll down they get more rabid by the post.
I did wonder why this blog was a mixture of reasonable people from both sides and a small group of insane right-wing supporters. It’s obvious now where the insane left-wing supporters went.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
Toadies… that’s rich coming from you Sam Dixon.
The reason I consider that site sad is that I know who writes the posts on this site and , FYI, I don’t always agree with him. Trying looking for ickystinky in the phone book.
Can you deconstruct what I’m trying to say Sam?
G
October 5th, 2007 at 2:48 pm
Nih – “It’s obvious now where the insane left-wing supporters went.” I resent that statement – some of us stuck around.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
“it [kiwiblogblog] cracks me up.”
Which is really a fact that should tell anyone exactly how banal it is. Suck a lemon dipshit.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Kiwiblogblog is a petty, personal attack, not a philosophical development or ‘external view’ as Sam puts it.
For example: photo-shopping photos of his birthday celebrations. That is some deep intellectual analysis.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
Yo bait “suck a lemon”?? are you like 10 years old or something… No hold on, I’ve been down this road with Dad… Bait I’m sorry about your mental illness and hope you can get some help.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
The more the merrier I say. Among the rabble, there are always a few good ones even if I don’t agree with their political leanings.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
you’re trying to tell us that they’ve gone somewhere?!?
sorry, I don’t see it that way. this place has degenerated into vile pit of sniping and childish insults. while ‘fault’ exists on both sides there seems to be a deliberate left-sourced campaign to provoke, disrupt and obfuscate here.
i like participating in robust discussion but can’t abide the crap that the trolls have been serving up. i’d like to see a bunch of posters (with their multiple aliases) put on moderation watch. no value-add, no post. simple.
October 5th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
Hey Blogblog is posting on this post! http://kiwiblogblog.wordpress.com/2007/10/05/aww-shucks/ it reminds me of Derrida’s endless iteration of text toward groundlessness (that’s deconstruction talk grant – if you’d got past school cert you might get it)
October 5th, 2007 at 2:59 pm
Nah actually it’s more like Baudrillard’s endlessly referential simulacra. Sorry for the bum steer guys…
October 5th, 2007 at 3:02 pm
Robinsod here’s another word I learnt at school:
pretentious.
(Look it up).
October 5th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/3746/d4jpz0.jpg
October 5th, 2007 at 3:03 pm
there seems to be a deliberate left-sourced campaign to provoke, disrupt and obfuscate here
Yes Kiwi, and we’re all sitting in a room right now reading your mind. Time to crack out the old tinfoil hat mate.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:05 pm
You went to school Julian? Shit, you could’ve fooled me.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
And here’s another word I learned behind the bikesheds at school Robinsod…”twat”.
Look up it. That would be a first for you I’m sure.
G
October 5th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
Re: The Standard. Imitation is the highest form of flattery
Re: The insane left-wing supporters. Of course they are still here KK but its one the “appeals” of this site that we are treated to a constant reminder of whats wrong with the left by the mindless ramblings of the “best” apologists socialism can produce.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
Grant, just what were you doing “Behind the bikesheds at school” and did little Jimmy tell on you?
October 5th, 2007 at 3:09 pm
“Bait I’m sorry about your mental illness and hope you can get some help.”
Sharp.. real sharp.. FFS, what a sad impotent loser..
October 5th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
Anyway, back on topic.
Robinson your thoughts on the comment I made about Kiwiblogblog photoshopping photos of DPF?
That satisfies your definition of deconstruction?
October 5th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
Nah bait – I’ve been running the impotent line on Dad today, if all you’ve got to run with is my lines you’re gonna have to step up your game a bit…
October 5th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
Masterate Testicleossa A sports car designed by Dixon and driven by Tane?
And Robinsod don’t forget, gnome has a First Class Honours Degree. (like he’s going to let us forget!) So don’t come it with the big words.
Speaking of people with french names. I’m partial to a bit of Rimbaud myself. Mind you he went down hill in my estimation when he over-did the ‘Rocky’ series.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
“we are treated to a constant reminder of whats wrong with the left by the mindless ramblings of the “best” apologists socialism can produce.”
Exactly.. Good point Reg. if anyone ever has any doubts over what a braindead cowardly dumbfuck bunch of immoral losers whiners thieves madmen and bludgers the left are, they only have to come to Kiwiblog and read the comments of the leftist dipshits posting here (because of course, on most leftist sites, the “liberals’ running them won’t allow comments)
October 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
you’re gonna have to step up your game a bit…
You’re so dull its no wonder you can’t see how witless and unfunny you really are you wet try hard sap.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
“on most leftist sites, the “liberals’ running them won’t allow comments”
Kiwiblogblog being an exception. They are allowed. It’s just that, apparently, no one can be arsed.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Looks like nih’s set up a D4J blog: http://blog.skull.co.nz/
October 5th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Julian – if you knew anything about deconstruction you’d understand that one of it’s key techniques is the use of re-presentation of the everyday in order to provide a visceral understanding of the unstable nature of meaning. By photoshopping these image kiwiblogblog could be see to be underscoring the removal of the link between the signifier and the signified and thus highlighting the fact that DPF’s photos are a presentation of reality that is not contingent on an essential truth but rather to the narratives he choses to imply.
So did you pass school cert or what?
October 5th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
Now where was I oh thats right , isn’t it fun this blog world . Yeah you can smack into cocking sucking communists trying to steal our freedom of speech , blog attack , blog cantab police accused of corruption . Nice shot Anton !
October 5th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Its got to be gratifying knowing you’re doing something right when Sonic et al are drawn to your site like a moth to a flame…perhaps they will decamp to a more friendly site nowwhere they can enjoy the sound of their own applause.
I won’t hold my breath though… they are good trolls, very effective at hijacking threads
October 5th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Lee C – I appreciate your continual high-culture/low-culture references. Very droll. Perhaps we could have dinner some time?
October 5th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
Dad – you’re back – yay! I was worried you’d shot yourself.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
“no one can be arsed.”
Exactly.. and why would they? What mindless drivel. Imagine how empty the writer’s life must be to spend time on such a pointless and empty project.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
Hows your parole officer?
October 5th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
DPF – I know its hard to maintain standards but I think you have a choice over whether you want your blog to be a place where pepole come to have a debate and some robust left-right argumetns or whether it should descend into RB calling everyone, George Bush (whom he says is left-wing) and leftwards “a braindead cowardly dumbfuck bunch of immoral losers whiners thieves madmen and bludgers “
[DPF: I plan to use this weekend to finally appoint the moderators and then set them to work.]
October 5th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
“Perhaps we could have dinner some time?”
If you need to be bored to death by a prattling self absorbed narcissistic dipshit with the wit of an egg sandwich, go along Lee.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Sincerest apologies Tane if I offended you. Not of course for the offence itself but for the fact that I migt have caused offence. If that is too obscure ask Helen about her “apology” to George W.
Anyway it seems that I might have elevated you to the status of intellectual with my post about your Masterate. It was of course Robinsod who is totally up himself over education.
Mind you the rogered gnome comes in a close second.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Jeez Bait are you jealous? I mean you can come too if you want just don’t shit on the carpet or call the waiter a jew-bastard and it’ll work out fine.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
“I know its hard to maintain standards ”
You don’t know fuck all you pretentious pissant. Leftists can say anything they want here and turn almost every thread into worthless shit and there’s not a squeak from sniveling bigots like you.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
Cockblocked! Jealousy bonus! C-c-c-c-combo!
October 5th, 2007 at 3:23 pm
krazykiwi opined:
I second that.
While deviation from the topic does seem to be a favourite tactic of those who might be described as left, there are those across the ideological divide who are equally as guilty, if not moreso, of personalising almost every issue – which then derails discussion beyond redemption.
I can’t think of a single regular poster from either side of the spectrum who doesn’t sometimes say something germane to the topic and, when they do, offers a perceptive and thought-provoking comment. But as soon as they begin to critique one another’s contributions it all tends to go to hell.
I’d also second that. Come on DPF, we realise you’re busy but as a business person you’d know that finding the time to delegate now saves vastly greater amounts of time in future. Moderators, please.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
“I’d also second that.”
Rex, can you do anything but whine so piteously?? Boring.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
Careful Lee C, Robinsod has exhibied a rather disturbing tendency to be obsessed with body parts, sodomy and a variety of other abnormal sexual practices. Wouldn’t be prudent to get close methinks, the strangest things occur in academia.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:27 pm
Redbait, why all the anger? You’re sounding like Bill English.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
“Jeez Bait are you jealous? ”
Jealous of the attention of a knuckle dragging narcisstic bore? Yeah right?
October 5th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
Yo David – excuse me. Can you cite examples of these perversions? (And beside I get the feeling Lee’s a bit sick of vanilla anyway)
October 5th, 2007 at 3:30 pm
“Redbait, why all the anger?”
Gee Tane, what with mistaking pungent criticism of leftism for anger? Are you really that insulated in your sad little commie life that everyone walks on eggshells around you? Not here creep.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
R: The complexity (read: stupidity) of your response proves my point really.
I didn’t study Obscure Philosophical Theory 101, but I don’t need to have to know that most, if not all, of the stuff on that site is nothing but bitter personal vitriol. I haven’t read one post that actually speaks to an issue, and doesn’t just rubbish DPF.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
Hey bait – the only pungent thing around here is your arse (or is it your mouth? It can be so hard to tell) – make sure you wash it before we go to dinner.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:31 pm
FIELD TO BE CHARGED
October 5th, 2007 at 3:33 pm
Yes Julian complexity and stupidity are synonyms – that’s why all the girls tell you you’re “just y’know, like too complex for me.”
So did you pass school c?
October 5th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
“make sure you wash it before we go to dinner”
Why am I not surprised to learn you’re queer. Another symptom of narcissism.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
DPF: RB said
“You don’t know fuck all you pretentious pissant. Leftists can say anything they want here and turn almost every thread into worthless shit and there’s not a squeak from sniveling bigots like you.” really, is this necessary. hell, i would feel uncomfortable with this kind of stuff coming from someone who shares basically the same political outlook as me.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:36 pm
Yeah I passed School C.
Right – off to have a beer. Have a good weekend. It’s been amusing.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
“really, is this necessary. hell, i would feel uncomfortable with this kind of stuff coming from someone who shares basically the same political outlook as me.”
Maybe if just once, you issued some kind of censure to those on your side of the political fence you could regain some credibility.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:37 pm
Bait – are you offering to blow me? I should let you know now I wouldn’t put it anywhere near that thing you call a mouth…
[DPF: And that is a warning despite the sunshine]
October 5th, 2007 at 3:39 pm
Oh FFS, why would you care what those others say DPF?
Look at your stats vs theirs and chuckle to yourself and count the cash.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:42 pm
Kiwiblogblog:
a disappointing lightweight parody of DPF…a one trick pony where the contributors comment on their own submissions…it won’t last the distance…gone by Monday.
It’s a shame really I was rather hoping for some robust open commentary from the left…or is that an oxymoron?
October 5th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
“Bait – are you offering to blow me?”
How pathetically witless. I need to bandy words with a dumbfuck like you like I need to watch paint dry.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
Oh come on DPF – I didn’t say anything Bait wouldn’t (and frankly his homophobia really offends me)
October 5th, 2007 at 3:45 pm
RB – if you and that robinsod joker wnat to slag each other off or offer to engage in mutal fellatio, that’s your business. what I object to is you using such language on me and others who are just trying to be civil.
but if you want me to censure someone of the left: um, Tane: I think that ‘go read a book’ comment to Julian earlier was a bit uncalled for, its not the way to win friends and influence people.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
Yeah right insider , what a bunch of wackos these socialist scum are . I will never visit anything they post or link as I am too busy deleting the creeep comments from the deranged sickos on my own blog snog .
Well bugger me , Mr Fat Field is be charged ,which makes both Helen Clark and Brain Tamaki both foolish. Just watched Amazing Grace movie – it was all about slavery . I thought it had finished Auntie Helen ? oopps sorry H1 & B1 & H !.2
It never pays to back a dogged horse at the track – as we don’t want no f##king tricky business around here bud ?
Snap election vote President of the world – haha @!!
October 5th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
RB’s comments are also over the top, and I’d like all the personal abuse in this thread to stop. Every thread is trunign into a personal abuse thread and that is why sadly I am going to have to start using moderators to warn and suspend people.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
Sam – leave me out of it. Any post that mentions me and Bait in the same sentence is just uncalled for.
October 5th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
from this post and others it is clear that there is not a great deal of work being done at the EPMU.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
I am with Sam: I thought Kiwiblogblog amusing – but I wouldn’t take it seriously. I see they’re posting today on both Whaleoil and Redbaiter. It’s the price of success (or in the case of the latter two, infamy), I guess.
On the issue of moderation. I think diminishing some of the personal abuse might but retain some of the more punchy intellectual argument would be a way to go.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
Nice try Whale. Let’s see… so far we’ve had the 9th floor, the labour party research department, Finsec and now the EPMU? Oh and let’s not forget the whole academia thing. Like I told you on your (tragic) KtB site bro I work for Jardine Lloyd Thompson. Come round and we’ll have a coffee sometime (if they let you past security).
October 5th, 2007 at 4:05 pm
david – i’m volunteering to moderate if agreed to by a cross section of posters here.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Ooh ooh me too!
October 5th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
The elections a year off and all of a sudden people like Robinsod pop out of the wood work. Not to mention the John Key attack blogs.
The standard looks professional with videos & lots of photoshopped images. Who’s paying for it? Who has the time? Had to laugh @ a few of the obvious fake comments on there.
Oh well… the personal attacks only hardens ones resolve to get rid of Labour.
One reason why there isn’t a left equivalent of Kiwiblog is because left posters like Robinsod tend to be hysterical in there reasoning.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
Um NX – it’s “their” not “there”. Just out of interest why have you named yourself after a crappy Japanese sports car from the 90′s?
October 5th, 2007 at 4:17 pm
I agree with you David, until you linked to my blog again. You’ve been doing this a lot recently, and I’m beginning to think you may have some hidden motive ;P
October 5th, 2007 at 4:18 pm
Oh, the Honda NX. It’s actually an an abbreviated version on my name.
Heh, correcting spelling on the internet eh..? Good luck with that. It’s Friday & it’s knock off time. Met ya @ the pub for a beer
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October 5th, 2007 at 4:19 pm
It hasn’t even been established that moderation is for anything other than eliminating spam.
I would disagree with anyone other than DPM deciding what goes on in his blog as he plays the neutral host role excellently.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:21 pm
Nevermind, I just scrolled up and saw we do indeed have a movement to moderate.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
I like you NX – you’ve got style – which pub?
October 5th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
if that is the case Robinson then pop your head over the cubicle and apologise to my mate Paul for your vitriolic attack on him will you.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
Whale – I didn’t attack him. You did (and anyway he’s got his own office). The sooner you come to terms with your behaviour and its consequences the sooner you’ll get well. How are the T-shirt sales going?
October 5th, 2007 at 4:28 pm
Thanks though whale I wasn’t sure if I had the right Paul until you confirmed it.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:31 pm
Whale oil ” if that is the case Robinson then pop your head over the cubicle and apologise to my mate Paul for your vitriolic attack on him will you.”
This robinsod is beyond ever apologising to anybody and every time he comments its another vote to National .
Cheers mate , haven’t been over of late, as rather busy at war here .
October 5th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Oh and Whale – now I know his name, his address, his place of work and have a photo of him. Could you be any dumber?
October 5th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Dad – I’m not your enemy and I’m sorry for the harsh things I said before I knew about your illness.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:35 pm
F##k off you sod
October 5th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Bro – I’m serious. I know we’ve had our differences but I’m pretty sure you’re a good guy at heart. You’re just a bit messed up bro, we all are sometimes, you’ll get through it and I’m not gonna stand in your way.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Robinson, you are the single proof as to why we should oppose registration of free speech. Thank you so much for letting every one know exactly how Labour’s supporters will deal with dissent….they’ll publish your hame and address details for all to see, then they’ll get your photo and of course there is the obligatory “EB treatment”. Lovely, just lovely.
As we can also see you either tell lies or just make shit up to suit yourself.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:42 pm
Whale let me quote you: “I don’t know who you are talking about, I’m certainly not fat…..oh and your mother said Mmmarghmmm……she would have said Hello but she had my cock in her mouth”
And you think you’ve got the moral high-ground? You’re sicker than I thought.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
Whale, you got a mate to sign up to the Labour Party on false pretenses so you could get on their mailing list. You then posted the letter your friend dishonestly received in order to ridicule it, but forgot to properly black out his name. You were stupid and you were exposed, but ultimately it was you who put your friend’s name in the public domain. Don’t try and blame anyone else for your fuckup.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:53 pm
I thought I read on another thread that robinsod was banned by the blog owner David F ?
October 5th, 2007 at 4:58 pm
Redbaiter asks:
Well I could because I actually:
a) have the cojones to use my own name when commenting, and thus try to make sure that my opinions, while maybe not always fully formed, at least wouldn’t rate a fail on the MMPA test; and
b) have some knowledge of what it’s like to be involved in many of the issues discussed here, and in active politics. Not much knowledge when compared to DPF and some others who frequent here, but enough to be able to make the odd useful observation from time to time…
But why would I waste my time when anything I, or anyone else, says that’s of relevance is immediately lost amidst a flood of you and your looney left wing opponents inviting one another to a session of mutual fellatio whilst calling one another bigots, fascists, communists, retards, dipshits etc etc. Pearls before swine, and all that…
Thing is, when you’re not commenting on other’s comments but on the issues themselves I find what you have to say to usually be pithy, pertinent, and well thought out. Similarly most of the other people who are prone to hyperbole. So I’d rather read insight than insult.
If that’s pomposity then I guess I’m pompous. Personally I’d have opted for a different term. Like “sane”.
October 5th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
Dad – I got warned after a brief exchange with bait but I’m still here. And I’m glad to see you are too. I reckon we’re not too dissimilar dad – we just got off on the wrong foot. Friend?
October 5th, 2007 at 5:03 pm
Bulleye. I too enjoy his issue-focued posts. But the trolls bait him – successfully – to keep him from posting like that.
October 5th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
ug… Bullseye. Friday and all that…
October 5th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
KK – that’s bullshit, anyone from the left who has tried to have a civil conversation with Bait has failed. He did seem to be having a rational discussion with Roark this morning (I found it quite weird) but that was because they were agreeing on some pretty nasty stuff.
October 5th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
there seems to be a deliberate left-sourced campaign to provoke, disrupt and obfuscate here
I recall saying that about Sonic several weeks ago, having observed his – ah – debating style for a year or more on this site and asking people to simply not respond.
While that seems to have worked, the last few weeks make it look like he’s been cloned, and I can only put that down to a bunch of lefties getting really, really angry about their inability to fully occupy yet another piece of media space.
While it is tiresome and boring I guess it also fulfills Holyoke’s attitude toward Labour speakers, which was something along the lines of (paraphrasing) “Excellent speech. More, More”
October 5th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
Yes Tom it’s part of a conspiracy. We have clandestine meetings to discuss how we’re going to upset DPF cos he’s so important and all have secret names (mine’s Sodinrob – shit, now I’ll have to change it). Now you’ve rumbled us you’ll get a visit from the men in the black van. I know it’s a tired meme (I think I may have started it a month or so ago) but put your tinfoil hat on bro.
October 5th, 2007 at 5:32 pm
A conspiracy would imply a small group of reasonably intelligent, determined people attempting to undermine or subvert a larger controlling group.
The efforts of you and others has been more in the order of a small group of baby monkeys throwing their shit at the computer screen and laughing hysterically.
Better luck on the debate framing next time!
October 5th, 2007 at 5:37 pm
“have the cojones to use my own name when commenting,”
If I ran this site, I would make it mandatory that no real names could be used. Use of real names shows an out of date mindset that is also outside the spirit of blogging. You’re not writing to your local paper. You’re not writing to anywhere where your name matters.
The internet is wonderful because it is most of all a forum FOR IDEAS. Rex, I couldn’t care less who you were, who you are or what you have done or where you have been. You’re judged solely by what you write on here at any given moment.
Use of real names is totally unnecessary and just subjects blog owners to the possibility of defamation suits. I wouldn’t allow it. As well, pseudonyms allow a much freer exchange of ideas.
October 5th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
“I make no claims to be objective. But this blog is about me saying what I think on anything that is of interest to me.”
Bravo, and that is the point of blogs in a nut shell (or case to quote Basil Fawlty).
this is your blog David, and although I hardly ever agree with what you say, it’s your blog and you can say what the hell you like.
the only thing that bugs me about blogs is the ability of people to be anonymous. Do you really need anonymity?
October 5th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
Oooh Tom – “debate framing”. It’s called framing dude and the fact you felt you needed to add “debate” to it shows you’ve got little idea. Oh and by the way Lakoff? He’s not so hot but I get the feeling you haven’t even read that far. Better luck next time.
October 5th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
David PLEASE pick your mods and make trolling a banishment offence.
October 5th, 2007 at 6:01 pm
NX – i’m impressed by the production values over at the standard as well, but it doesn’t show any wealthy backing – all you would need for the pics, audio and viedo they’ve produced is the internet, photoshop, and a bit of talent.
that audio is just taken from radio stations’ websites, all the video is from the tv websites (apart from that john key in porirua vid, wonder who they are, obviously not well funded as they’re filiming on a digital camera or something and poor audio, and who told them about key’s media plans?), and the pics are easy with modern photo editting and google images.
October 5th, 2007 at 6:01 pm
I agree with this. I’ve never tried to hide who I am and I expect that not to be abused, but there’s something to be said for consistency across all posters. It’s too idealistic to be put into practice though.
As for moderation, if you truly wish to host an open forum, moderation is unnecessary. It’s a rare privilege to be the host of so many posters, regardless of conduct. It would be a shame to exclude some just because they don’t have a handle on their social interactions.
October 5th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
*sigh* Do love watch the usual suspects on both the loony left and the rabid right go trolling, then play the victim when they get exactly what they’re after. Why don’t you boys pool your cash, hire a professional dominatrix and get all the spanking and wanking you can handle where the rest of us don’t have to listen?
Any way, wonder exactly what M&F meant by “a partyaligned blog”. Who is paying for The Standard, Tane, and would you care to disclose who exactly your contributors are, and assure us that none of you are doing so on taxpayer-funded computers in Parliamentary offices? After all, people who like calling others slippery and dishonest shouldn’t be doing so on a blog that’s nothing more than a Labour Party sock-puppet, should they?
Got to say the ‘About’ page (http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?page_id=2) is less than informative.
October 5th, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Craig Ranapia – I’ve it on good authority from M&F that they were talking out their arses. I mean what funding does a blog need?
October 5th, 2007 at 6:17 pm
it has been sad to see the level of debate go down on this blog. But with an election coming up I guess the trolls have been ordered to “dumb it down” in line with good socialist strategy.
October 5th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
mmmm sock puppet…
October 5th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
So you’d deny me the right to use my own name on a blog if I so choose? Some libertarian you turned out to be
With respect I think it’s simply disingenuous to say that a person’s background imbues their opinions with no greater weight than anyone else’s. Would you give more weight to my advice on what car to buy, or that of someone you knew to be a mechanic?
People who are identifiable bring an automatic authority to some of what they say, if they happen to be commenting on a topic on which they irrefutably have a depth of knowledge deeper than that of the average person.
Rightly or wrongly, d4j’s personal history and real identity is well known by most readers of this blog (sorry to single you out, d4j, but you’re just the most obvious example that comes to mind at present).
As a result, I know he’s had, and is having, personal experience with the Family Court system. Therefore when he offers an opinion on a related topic (as he’s doing on the Sheen vs the ex thread as we speak) I’m going to give far greater weight to his opinions because he’s “been there, done that”. And I can see from some of his comments the emotional toll that’s taking, whereas if I had any reason to doubt that he were truly in the midst of the situation he’s facing then I’d have to wonder at the depth of feeling he sometimes voices.
Of course he could be completely anonymous and simply claim to have been through the system, but then readers might discount the views of such a person because they might simply be lying, or exaggerating.
Similarly I’m going to give more weight to DPF’s opinions on political strategy and polling than to an anonymous stranger’s because I know who he is and what he’s done in the past and that that informs his view.
Of course if DPF or d4j opine on what my next car purchase should be, I’ll view their opinions with the same level of skepticism I apply to anyone.
I’m not denying anyone their right to remain anonymous if they wish – I agree with you that that’s a significant strength of the internet. But nor would I deny anyone’s right to be identified, because that brings a different set of benefits to the debate.
October 5th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
Rex, I disagree. People might give my opinion some extra weight if I used my own name. That would be a mistake. My opinion is only as good as the argument and evidence that supports it. The delight of a blog is that I can put it out there, just as much as a jumped up post-modernist, and all that matters is our arguments. If somebody can tear me down, more power to them. Anonymity helps that.
Also, I’m not forced to think to hard before contributing to the rant.
Meanwhile, for those who are promoting postmoderism, my favourite comments on this topic can be found at the following link.
http://www.elsewhere.org/pomo
(Make sure you hit refresh a few times).
October 5th, 2007 at 8:56 pm
Most of the time I’m pretty much a troll, and even I’m pissed off at how crappy this place has become lately.
Tane & Robinson are the culprits in my book. At least Nome has something to say, even it’s always wrong, and Sonic always has nothing to say but I find thw way he says nothing quite funny.
October 5th, 2007 at 8:56 pm
Theres noting special about this blog site. It gets more views because its been around for a while, but I doubt it will grow much more; or to put it in a right wing perspective, it may ‘grow at a lower rate’. It won’t take long for ‘The Standard’ to gather momentum.. People will soon tire of Farrahs rants and move on to somebody elses.
Po marie e te whanau.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:15 pm
I doubt any blog where the authors refuse to reveal themselves will do as well as those where the author is proud to stand by his or her opinion. There are rare exceptions such as No Right Turn.
I note that Craig R’s questions have not been answered about whether any parliamentary staff are blogging.
Incidentally I did blog for a short while while at Parliament – and always under my own name.
October 5th, 2007 at 9:27 pm
This blog is good because it has many commenters from across the political spectrum. Agree, disagree, insult each other, bicker – there is a fair amount of free speech & many threads go completely off topic! I hardly think DPF has time to block or moderate most posts.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
DPF – I hope you don’t take any of that shit personally. Its a pathetic blog and quite mature of you to address it in the way you did. I wouldn’t have gone to it had you not highlighted it – so perhaps they should credit you for getting them some readership.
Some people need to get a life.
October 5th, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Yeah DPF – I agree, don’t take it personally. Just like the rumour about National’s november billboard campaing shouldn’t be taken seriously. No, hold on, should that that mean Kiwiblog is now being used as a hub for leftwing messages? Abort abort…. DPF you are losing. Why not just admit it?
October 5th, 2007 at 10:58 pm
proof is in the custard. Not many of their blog entries have any comments.
October 5th, 2007 at 11:01 pm
Sam Dixon:
Oh, I just think it’s a rather peculiar turn of phrase – “partyaligned” (sic). What the bugger does that mean? I provide weekly political commentary for Public Address Radio (5pm, Saturdays on Radio Live), and anyone who is unaware of my political leanings is thick as pig shit. But I take very strong exception to any suggestion that I sock puppet for National or any other party. Anyone who wants my services as a spin doctor can negotiate a contract, payment terms and the text of a disclosure statement.
Of course, my questions can be address by The Standard’s owners and contributors posting full disclosure statements on that suspiciously bland ‘About’ page. You know, like DPF has.
October 6th, 2007 at 12:57 am
I’m gunna start one called KiwiBlogBlogBlog (about them) so look out girls!
PS: anyone know a good lawyer? (pssst see: http://www.cairnsblog.net )
October 6th, 2007 at 1:53 am
c r – i guess noone listens to your radio show, whats the frequency kenneth?
i just don’t see why we would assume three guys with photoshop are party aligned… seems like a typically clumsly attempt to discredit those against him from farrar
[DPF: Sam - M&F said they were party aligned - not me. if they revealed who they are, then the issue could be resolved. Considering all they do is worship the Govt and attack National, they hardly have anything to fear from being public. It is those who oppose the Govt who are more likely to have legitimate needs for anonymity. And Sam Dixon just goes to show how little he knows about me. I've actually had journalists ring me asking if I think they are on the parliamentary payroll, and I have actually defended them and said that I don't think they are.]
October 6th, 2007 at 2:31 am
It seems a common problem for those entrenched to take exception not with what is being said, but with how it’s being delivered.
It doesn’t matter if they identify themselves or not. Don’t make ths mistake of assuming because something was said incognito that it won’t touch you.
October 6th, 2007 at 7:00 am
Sam Dixon wrote:
Golly, DPF the Darth Rove of New Zealand! Powerful must he be in the dark side of the Force that he can tell John Pagani (you know, close political advisor to Jim Anderton!) what to write.
Sounds like a typically clumsy attempt to avoid answering questions from Dixon.
October 6th, 2007 at 7:02 am
BTW, Public Address Radio was recently picked up for a third series. I guess we’re doing OK as far as listeners go – though I give 99% of the credit to Russell Brown, David Slack, Graham Read, and the wonderful folks at the Downlow Concept…
October 6th, 2007 at 7:12 am
hmmmm
this is pretty deliberate attempt to mute the influence you are having DPF. They have tried redirection. The strategy is now twofold.
Firstly an exact opposite attack blog which Robinsod is marketing heavily and is clearly also labour/union led, to try and sow doubt; and
Secondly, deliberate baiting and belittling in the comments- this has the effect of upping the noise to signal ratio and thereby turning off people who otherwise might have been influenced. Note how Robinsod, Tane, Sam and a few others recently turned up to supplement Sonic.
Get your moderation going DPF.
October 6th, 2007 at 8:18 am
That is an interesting observation deity – I noticed a change in style which suggested they were in dialogue with each other, rather than merely responding to others’ posts…
Do I win a tin foil hat?
October 6th, 2007 at 8:27 am
Perhaps. It doesnt matter what they talk about as long as reasonable people assume that kiwiblog is a juveniles cesspit and walk away. I have likened it to how the Chinese used to disrupt debates on Taiwan at the UN. The purpose is to disrupt and to encourage reasonable people to walk away – aversion therapy if you like.
Firstly journalists must be redirected to “balance” through a site dedicated to ridicule, pointing out inconsistencies (just like the one Robinsod is marketing). Journo’s are hard wired to look for “balance”. Secondly up the noise to signal ratio as I said, people need to automatically walk away. So a lot of ranting, abuse and trolling appears all aimed at disrupting debate.
If you don’t think that this Government is going to actively manage the media “battlespace” over the election, then perhaps you do deserve the tinfoil hat. DPF has become influential, he is an opponent of the Government and he is influencing people to be critical of the Government. Therefore he must be stopped, its really quite simple.
October 6th, 2007 at 8:28 am
“And Sam Dixon just goes to show how little he knows about me. ”
Its my opinion that Sam Dixon is in league with these saboteurs. Note his eager and frantic attacks on Redbaiter for firing back, in stark contrast to his reticence to criticise the gang of commies who successfully disrupted a number of interesting threads Friday. National’s Foreign Policy thread was one I was particularly interested in yet it was impossible to say anything meaningful there.
Because of his connivance, its my view that Dixon is part of this attack pack. I’m surprised at Mr. Farrar’s willingness to entertain Dixon’s constant whining about Redbaiter when such complaints were so obviously designed to support his mates. Dixon had to be put into a corner before he dared to criticize the saboteurs and then it was with words as weak as cat’s piss.
This little tea cup storm actually has much wider implications. Its causes and effects have deep political roots, roots that are founded in leftist political strategy. The right in NZ politics has been so gullible and so willing to allow themselves to be manipulated by the insidious evil of political correctness and leftists weeping about what’s “fair”. Why should the left be treated fairly?
The totalitarian socialists are an insidiously evil influence on NZ society (and the globe). This country and this society will not begin to recover from decades of social destruction at the hands of leftists until they are defeated. Totally and finally defeated. Should the allied forces have given Hitler or the Japanese generals a fair chance in WWII?? “Hey Adolf, we’ll be hitting the Normandy beaches on June 6th. Just telling you so you won’t accuse us of being unfair. OK??”
The right needs to be aware of how they are often manipulated by the language used by leftists, and how this manipulation has succeeded in making it almost socially unacceptable in NZ to express ideas outside the spectrum of “permitted” leftist ideology.
The right, over the last couple of decades, have been totally hoodwinked by the leftist con of political correctness, and to a large degree are still suffering from that mistake.
Today tho, the momentum is there for change, for a rebuttal of the social customs that have been created by this exceptionally successful leftist strategy. This momentum has been led by the internet and blogging is a big part of it. Lets keep the momentum going.
The actions of the left in trying to disrupt debate on this site and otherwise attack right wing internet personalities is proof they’re worried. We’re slowly but surely breaking their grip on discourse and our culture. Don’t break the momentum, and more importantly.. Don’t get fooled again…!!!
October 6th, 2007 at 9:13 am
yes – i’ve noted the same thing. i’ve also noted an increase in the pack-driven goading of anyone who has (or in the case of newbies, might have) a tendency to bite back… and then cry fowl of any retaliation.
Unlike a rugby ref who might only see the handbag but have not heard the ruck-time racial slur, here in the blogosphere there’s a visible audit trail of a flare-up.
October 6th, 2007 at 9:23 am
There certainly has been a noticeable co-ordination of contrary viewpoints (or threadjacking!) this week, and I don’t believe that it is coincidence that this has occurred in the wake of Robinson’s return from “exile. The “winding-up” of Redbaiter and dad4justice has made many threads farcical this week. Like others, I look forward to DPF’s appointment of moderators, and the issuing of the mandatory tinfoil hats for the purposes of identification!
October 6th, 2007 at 9:39 am
These people are just using the same old Bolshevik tactics the left have been using for years. I happened to witness a disgraceful example of this when way back before the ’99 election I saw the ACT bus up near Auckland university. I was only visiting NZ at the time, but I was just so shocked by what I saw, and what it told me about what this country had become.
Here were a bunch of guys trying to advocate policies of small government and individual freedom being shouted down and screamed at and virtually assaulted by a huge gang of screaming ignorant violent communist thugs. The ACT speakers remained unheard.
If you lie down, these people will walk over you. You must fight back and you must not let the left hold the floor by dint of your reluctance to confront their cowardice and ignorance. They can be defeated, but not if you allow them to continue to do as they have done for the last few decades. Not if you are too weak and too intimidated by the leftist strategy of political correctness to be “offensive’ yourself.
This focus on “abuse’ and offence” has been one of the left’s most successful strategies, and has led to the right being unwilling to confront the Bolsheviks whilst they run riot, as they have on this blog over the last day or two. The left have managed to tie the concept of “abuse” to disagreement with the left. You cannot express your contempt for the insidious evil of socialism without being charged with “abuse” or being “offensive”. Sam Dixon is the leading proponent of this duplicitous but effective strategy.
Its time the right awoke form their slumber and realized how the left have managed to insert their political ideas into NZ culture, and have made it almost a crime to hold those ideas in any kind of contempt, and worse, to express that contempt. Its time for the right to realise there’s no profit in capitulation. The meek will not inherit the earth, they will only be overrun by the scheming bullying power obsessed left.
October 6th, 2007 at 9:40 am
Oh my god. It’s a vast left wing conspiracy. Someone should call that Wishart fella in to sort this out. Honestly? I’m not sure if there’s enough tinfoil in the world to solve this problem.
October 6th, 2007 at 9:48 am
whatever Robinsod. So you don’t work for a union? you aren’t a member of the labour or a labour aligned party or movement? and you aren’t coordinating as part of a strategy?
I thought that was exactly what you “activists” did. You spend enough time skiting about it elsewhere. So, why is it unreasonable to identify your strategy and tactics for what they are?
Do you really expect us to believe that you, Tane (who you share an IP address with) and the others are just random trolls who just happen to share the same game plan?
October 6th, 2007 at 9:50 am
It would on take a small ball of tinfoil to do to you what others have tried with a tennis ball. now that would solve a problem .. !
October 6th, 2007 at 10:17 am
“the same game plan”? WTF? Once again – you have some serious conspiracy issues dude. I agree that things have been stirred up here in the last few months and yes – I decided to post aggressively when I joined this blog (I still don’t understand why the right seems to think they should have a monopoly on such posting). What keeps me going though is the fact that so many others have come out of the woodwork. All I can think is there has been a built-up resentment from a large number of people over Kiwiblog’s constant monopolising of this particular media space to propagate rightist messages and with a couple of more aggressive left posters this has surfaced.
But anyway, I can’t believe I’m spending time explaining my rationale for posting to you so onto more important stuff – what skiting nige? If you’re gonna accuse me of shit you can at least elucidate.
October 6th, 2007 at 10:22 am
page #2 from the songbook “we are a spontaneous grassroots uprising”
October 6th, 2007 at 10:22 am
‘(I still don’t understand why the right seems to think they should have a monopoly on such posting)”
It doesn’t surprise me at all that a collectivist oaf like you doesn’t understand something that is in reality so simple. This is David Farrar’s blog. Not yours. You have no “right” to post here. You post here if he wants you to. Your ignorance on such matters is just a self imposed boundary that arises as a result of your total immersion in communist culture.
October 6th, 2007 at 10:30 am
good point RB. DPF actually OWNS this “media space”.
Kinda weird to oppose someones monopoly of their private property. Takes a true believer I suppose?
Also interesting that Robinsod admits his only purpose is to troll.
October 6th, 2007 at 10:39 am
Nigel – I engage you with my honest interpretation of the situation and you come back with conspiracy theories? Go fuck yourself dude.
Bait – stop your nancyboy whining. Just cos I own your ass every time I come on this god forsaken blog you feel the need to invoke the name of Farrar as if it’s some sort of protective charm. Grow up and stop hiding behind DPF’s skirt you pussy.
October 6th, 2007 at 10:47 am
Gee, where’s Sherrif Sam Dixon when you need him??
October 6th, 2007 at 10:58 am
And again Bait: Owned.
October 6th, 2007 at 10:59 am
Where’s Selma when we need her .At least with her you got a good laugh
October 6th, 2007 at 11:04 am
“Where’s Selma when we need her .At least with her you got a good laugh”
Haha, yeah that’s right. The low intellect Robinson and his frantic attempts at one-up-man-ship or to be funny every time he posts when he hasn’t got the intellectual capability for the former or the wit for the latter are just so boring. To everyone except the delusionally self glorifying Robinson that is.
October 6th, 2007 at 11:08 am
very touchy this morning aren’t we union boy?
leave it out with the righteous indignation routine. You are a bald liar. You are a troll. You come here to troll. You have admitted your purpose is to troll. you and your spontaneously arisen mates – still sharing the IP address are you? have come here to spoil and disrupt someone else’s “media space” for exactly the reasons I have outlined.
and now you are all upset. and in the typical way of the leftist activist think that swearing at me somehow proves your integrity. Maybe it is supposed to show you are like way hip, keeping it real and one of the people sticking it to the man!
Well diddums. All it shows is that you are a puerile little adolescent.
October 6th, 2007 at 11:09 am
hey everyone Robinsod is still trying to bite and eye gouge is way into a fight. trollalogical warefare! when it decides to contribute positively to the discussion then i might consider engaging with it. until then its rob..ins. who?
October 6th, 2007 at 11:12 am
You keep sticking it to them RB.
This is only a taste of things to come.
October 6th, 2007 at 11:12 am
I completely agree with Robinsod, as per the Great Plan.
October 6th, 2007 at 11:13 am
Robinsod would try and scratch your eyeballs out but it would only break its long false painted black fingernails, so it would probably just run if fronted by a Sir Captain of All Blacks type charge tackle ?
I would love to play rugby against the sodden thing as I would ruck the f##k out of it .
October 6th, 2007 at 11:15 am
You forget RB its the weekend, sonic, sam et al only work the blog shifts on weekdays. Hapless old robinsod must have drawn the short straw for the weekend shift, and regrettably isnt sufficiently equipped or agile enough to participate.
Maybe if we are lucky he will strike for better conditions?
October 6th, 2007 at 11:16 am
As for ball boy nih , well why bother with such a nil bunt ?
October 6th, 2007 at 11:17 am
Bait – it’s “Robinsod” (Robinson still seems to be banned)
Nigel – can you not read? Go fuck yourself.
Bwakile – Selma is dead. I ate her.
KK – I tried contributing and y’know what? You righties just acted like shits. When in Rome… and speaking of Rome – how’s the ruin that is http://www.killthebill.org.nz going? You seem to have stopped posting there – are you losing your taste for freedom of speech?
October 6th, 2007 at 11:22 am
Selma is dead. I ate her.
I guess thats one way to stop freedom of speech.
Know any more???
October 6th, 2007 at 11:26 am
Time to play the sympathy card is it? the nasty righties were mean to robinsod and this is why he has to troll.
When they have to resort to swearing at people it generally means they have lost the argument, and more interestingly, that they know it. Its a bit like Godwins Law really.
So to recap. Robinsod and his spontaneous friends all simultaneously and separately decided that DPF’s “media space” was getting too influential. and Separately and Independently (despite sharing IP addresses) decided that it was necessary to try and break up any debate and to troll until the site no longer had any influence.
At the same time someone else, completely independently, set up an attack site to undermine DPF’s message. Again completely independently and without in any way coordinating with that effort Robinsod starts marketing the attack site.
yup. All a coincidence. Nothing to see here. Move along.
October 6th, 2007 at 11:40 am
Don’t pretend for a moment that any of the abusive little cretins whose only contribution to ordinary society is a frothing tidal wave of swearing and insults have any sort of respect inside of normal society.
You wouldn’t dare behave this way towards someone in person and I have little doubt that most of you never leave the house.
For shame, you hide so that we can’t see you, yet you give yourselves away on the internet. You will never escape from your ill behaviour now.
October 6th, 2007 at 11:44 am
I am sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo scared nil !!
Bring it on !!
October 6th, 2007 at 12:05 pm
Nigel – I suggest you look under your bed and perhaps also in your closet as I may be hiding there as well. I’m very pleased you’re taking the time to decode my secret mission though I’ve never felt so loved (stalked?)
October 6th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
Any way, wonder exactly what M&F meant by “a partyaligned blog”. Who is paying for The Standard, Tane, and would you care to disclose who exactly your contributors are, and assure us that none of you are doing so on taxpayer-funded computers in Parliamentary offices?
Craig, no one is paying for The Standard. Believe it or not, it’s not out of the reach of the ordinary joker to set up a WordPress blog and register a URL. As for high production values, it’s called having a copy of Photoshop bro and being able to edit youtube videos (the software comes free with Windows). I know you’re an old hand (hack?) at this blog thing, but you’re falling behind the times dude.
And no, just to clear things up, nobody writing for The Standard works at Parliament or posts from taxpayer-funded computers. The mundane reality is we’re just a bunch of labour movement activists who decided it was time to even things up a little and tell a story that wasn’t being told. The about page is still blank because we haven’t had time to put anything up yet, but judging by the conspiracy theories being bandied about here I can see we’ve touched a raw nerve…
I note that Craig R’s questions have not been answered about whether any parliamentary staff are blogging.
DPF: Dude, I’m sorry I wasn’t sitting on Kiwiblog at 9.15pm on a Friday night ready to answer your questions but I was out, you know, having a life outside of Kiwiblog. Give it a go some time bro, you might enjoy it.
October 6th, 2007 at 2:41 pm
I did and you freaked out. Yesterday was one of your most interesting episodes that I’ve dug up so far, with the exception of your rant about police and claymore mines.
October 6th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
Mrs nil – Police and claymore mines ??? Are you insane , yes I was a sapper and no I don’t have any mines you twisted weird snake !!!
October 6th, 2007 at 2:47 pm
As always, you’re a spineless fucking liar. The right deserves better supporters than you.
October 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pm
And here’s a link to your comment, you pathetic frigtard:
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/03/police_watch_blog.html#comment-290347
October 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
nih – name a time and place and I will be , on my own too sort this OUT for once and all – face to face . Come on gutless – I challenge you as I am sick and tired of your f##ked stinking insults .
name a place , I’ll will be there !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 6th, 2007 at 2:53 pm
Come On nil – lets do it face to face
October 6th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Come on nil name a fucking place you gutless fuck wit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 6th, 2007 at 2:57 pm
Robinsod:
Yes, I’m definitely going to have to fuck myself if that’s your idea of foreplay.
October 6th, 2007 at 2:58 pm
I wouldn’t lower myself to it, D4J. I do think it’s time you left this blog alone though.
October 6th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
Name a place gutless and the owner of the blog is David Farrar and I listen to him if I overstep the mark, as I walk a fine line , looking at a 4 month ban next time, but you cross the limits of public decency . You are pure filth !!!
I challenge you to face to face meeting . If you are too sacred to met – please indicate this to the world via the net ?
October 6th, 2007 at 3:06 pm
I updated my blog. Thanks D4J.
October 6th, 2007 at 3:08 pm
scared certainly not sacred !!!
Come on name a place, as I would walk over 50 miles of broken glass to have a yarn to you nih !
October 6th, 2007 at 4:16 pm
Hey D4J, I’ll fight you. You live in Christchurch don’t you? See you at the Cathedral Square at 12pm tomorrow sucker.
October 6th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
“The mundane reality is we’re just a bunch of labour movement activists who decided it was time to even things up a little and tell a story that wasn’t being told”
well well well, so Robinsod and Tane are in fact labour activists coordinating their trolling.
What a surprise boys.
October 6th, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Mr J Crux spews ” “Hey D4J, I’ll fight you. You live in Christchurch don’t you? See you at the Cathedral Square at 12pm tomorrow sucker.”
I will see you there as you will be easy to spot munching a brown derby from the cup chick girls . I will bring my flame thrower as I don’t want to get close to a disease infested filthy maggot brain , like yourself Mr Nil Peak Crux Sod .
Point the muzzle and let rip and watch the f##kers’ burn baby burn , up in smoke !!
October 6th, 2007 at 7:23 pm
I in no way wish to condone violence or the no doubt cringe-rendering beatdown D4J is going to receive.
But I do hear youtube is an excellent place to put the resulting video.
Just sayin’.
October 6th, 2007 at 7:26 pm
But D4J doesn’t like an even fight. Remember how he set “Spiky Norman” and the motorbike gang onto Phillip John/Roger Nome? Only thing is: he forgot to find out whether PJ was arriving at the airport, or the bus station.
October 6th, 2007 at 7:32 pm
peak,,
what are you talkin bout,, did d4j really set a gang on someone ?
October 6th, 2007 at 7:34 pm
Two more peak /nih Votes against labour , and sonic was a pleasure to debate with compared to you twisted cowards……blah …blah ……….
October 6th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Hinamanu:
Sadly, yes… and he used Phillip John’s full name.
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/10/the_electoral_finance_bill_and_the_bill_of_rights.html#comment-347500
October 6th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
well,,
I didn’t get a bite from redbaiter and apparently thats sposed to be a feat
since he’s apparently unbeatable in rebuttle
October 6th, 2007 at 7:42 pm
It’s hilarious that D4J seriously thinks that I’m a Labour supporter. I’ve tried to clear this up with him several times now.
October 6th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
You must be peak as you’re so silly I think you are a labour MP ?
October 6th, 2007 at 7:44 pm
You’re no-one to sit in judgment of me. Now run along and play.
October 6th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
Hey, D4J?
October 6th, 2007 at 7:47 pm
D4J. Go to Exes post. You owe me an apology, I think.
October 6th, 2007 at 7:51 pm
RIP Mum.
October 6th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
You are sick nih , leave my recently deceased mother out of this you dirty low bastard .
You’ll got your wish . I ‘ll need 4 months from this shit !!
October 6th, 2007 at 8:00 pm
Fuck you dogs
October 6th, 2007 at 8:01 pm
The thing is D4J, will you respect the ban or post under weird names like “Spikey Norman”? And I’ve even seen you post under vanilla names like “John”.
October 6th, 2007 at 8:02 pm
Have you seen KrazyKiwi’s good advice on the “September Visitors” thread, D4J? How many friends do you have on Kiwiblog? Or have you burned them all off?
October 6th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
I’m sorry, I guess I just snapped. Consider my (otherwise empathic) comment retracted. No hard feelings, I hope.
October 6th, 2007 at 8:10 pm
I’ve never been to a blog like this in ma life
obviously PDF is off for the night
October 6th, 2007 at 8:13 pm
i can’t believe you guys. this is top shelf puerile stuff. all of you. the poster with a quickest fingers are goading those with the shortest wick. pathetic. go outside. get some fresh air. think about the world we live in. find someone who’s needy and help them. then come back and posting something considered and respectful. good night!
October 6th, 2007 at 8:25 pm
KrazyKiwi:
You’re entitled to your opinion. But see D4J’s entry on the “Husbands as Taonga” thread – then you’ll understand why I get frustrated with him.
October 6th, 2007 at 8:34 pm
To be completely honest, if I were DPF I’d come back from my engagement tonight and hit the fucking roof at the way his blog is used. In defence of 99% of the posters here however, it’s particularly hard not to rise to outright, vile abuse and threats of violence.
KK is right, it’s time for a break.
October 8th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
Comments are not sticking on thestandard.org. That is unfortunate.
October 13th, 2007 at 10:14 pm
It gets sillier.
http://kiwiblogblogblog.wordpress.com/
October 13th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
They could do more with kiwiblogblogblog IMO. Not showing a lot of imagination.