Recovering
October 14th, 2007 at 3:08 pm by David FarrarOh that was a good night (and day). We started off at the Play House at midday, and stayed there until 5 pm. That was the C&R function. Then we had the Banks function at Quality Inn Westend in Grey Lynn. That went through until midnight.
Now I had done the sensible thing and booked a room at the hotel, so I could crash easily and get up in time for my radio interview at 10 am. But sadly common sense went out the window when a bit after midnight someone suggested we head into town to do Karaoke. Yes, never a good idea. So we headed into town, and then ended up in a friend’s apartment at the Viaduct. Now this apartment was superbly located – above Soul Bar – so great view of the viaduct and beyond.
Eventually my survival instinct kicked in and I headed back to Grey Lynn. Not sure what time it was. Got woken up at 9.15 am (luckily) by Cameron needing to grab his gear he’d left in the room. Realise I have 30 minutes to get to Radio NZ. This is no mean feat. Especially as my condition could well be described as less than 100%. In fact somewhere around 10%.
On the way ring up a friend who may have a stat or two I want on the public service. She informs me I managed to ring her during the final minute of the World Cup semi-final. Whoops.
Anyway it was great to be such a fun election night party. To be honest not had a decent election night party since 1990. In 1993 it was pretty sober as office was almost lost. In 1996 Winston won (the real party came two months later when he made his choice). And 1999, 2002 and 2005 speak for themselves. 2002 especially was bloody miserable.
So while it is only local body politics, was nice to have some good results to celebrate. Some photos from the bashes, taken on Whale Oil’s new iPhone. I tell you, they are great (unlike the quality of the photos) and I can’t wait to get one!
Newly elected Crs Goldsmith and Bhatnagar with MP Jackie Blue.
Banks getting an update.
Incidentally his win, dents my record for predictions as back in February 2006 I said “Any possibility John Banks had of becoming Auckland Mayor again, has I suspect died with his idiotic comment on his talkback show that the Robert Hewitt survivial story is a hoax.” To be fair to me I had changed my mind by the end of 2006 as the Hubbard and City Vision fiascos continued.
Cameron Brewer and myself. I think at one point in the evening I told Cameron that before he became Newmarket Business Association CEO, I wouldn’t have known if Newmarket even had a corner dairy 
Re-elected Manukau Councillor Jami-Lee Ross and his partner who also got elected onto a community board.
Herald on Sunday Gossip Editor Rachel Glucina was a good sport and agreed to pose for a photo. She says she is a keen blog reader!
Tags: DPF, Local Body Politics
October 14th, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Didn’t Nicki Watson show.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 3:43 pm
Huh! Rachel Glucina’s photo looks nothing like the snapshot of her in Granny Herald…
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
I fancy Rachel…
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
Nice coast she’s wearing (again), although it looks like a whole pack of leopards gave their lives to achieve that much acreage.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
ps I’m recovering too, thought I’d try The Standard for ‘balance’ The Standard appears to be written by people in their third year at Uni. It seems to have one theme ‘John Key is a bastard’ and every blog appears to be a variation on that theme. In the end, I just gave up on it.
Shame really, I thought ‘the ;eft’ was going to provide its readership with something a bit less- well immature.
sigh
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 3:56 pm
David, put a wig on you or shave her head and you have found your doppelganger. Uncanny resemblance.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
“David, put a wig on you or shave her head and you have found your doppelganger. Uncanny resemblance.”
Rachel or Cameron?
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Am I mistaken, or is it true that the women at Labour Party functions always seem to be uglier than the ones you see at other Party functions. And the Labour Party women do not seem to enjoy themselves as much.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Tauhei,,
I don’t think the labs have the culture the Nats have.
And lets remember,, the Nats have a lot of money in common.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Not as much “money in common”, as the treaty industry generates for your cousins – eh bro -hehehehe – give us five – jive bro …hip pop…bro
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Don’t be unkind. Mr. Farrar’s a good sport to post these photos here.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
The Nats back in charge and a good thing too. I see Banksie is not being too tramphalist which is a good thing. But there is still many pockets of support for the Labour Party – I want the complete political destruction of that party, forever.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 5:58 pm
“Don’t be unkind. Mr. Farrar’s a good sport to post these photos here.”
That was a nice piece of sycophantic ingratiating. The question is, can it save you from the moderators RB? I doubt it.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 6:00 pm
“I want the complete political destruction of that party, forever.”
Tim: I think you forgot the …. mmmwwaaahahahahahah – at the end comment. Sorry to be pedantic
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 6:05 pm
If RB gets kicked I want justice against D4J !!
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
nome, what did you think of the ‘Standard’?
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 8:50 pm
Oh the short changed feminazi victimhood mentality , oh , so old fashioned written by a master nitwit like [deleted by DPF] ?
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 8:13 pm
I actually thought Bill’s comment was very funny and laughed at it. Partly because I know Bill meant it in a humorous not malicious way.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 8:21 pm
Tauhei Nott- i don’t know? have you ever been to a Labour party function? for the sake of the labour party and the women in it i hope not.
david, if you are going to moderate anything on your blog i would suggest misogynistic comments like the one from tauhei. and you wonder why so few women voted for national last election…
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 8:26 pm
Bitter Git D4J says: “Not as much “money in common”, as the treaty industry generates for your cousins – eh bro -hehehehe – give us five – jive bro …hip pop…bro”
What the fuck?!
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 8:27 pm
“What the fuck?!”
Couldn’t you respond to pretty much every D4J comment with that?
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 8:33 pm
The Bean:
I think the difference, The Bean, is that we don’t presume that Tauhei Nott speaks for the National or National voters. So how you figure that there’s any connection between few women voting for National last election (a dubious claim in itself) is beyond me. I think you’re better off with the safe crowd (Sam Dixon et al) at The Standard? They don’t mind making up facts to suit their story.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 8:46 pm
hahaha am i better off with them am i? cos im a chick? or cos im a leftie.
firstly it is not dubious claim. last election the gender divide of voters had females strongly supporting labour over National. only about 40 percent of those who voted national were women-poss a little higher. it is sooo dubious that even stephen joyce would agree with me. ask any strategist who wants national to win next year and they will tell you women are a needed demographic for votes.
you are welcome to read any analysis of voter trends in 2005 and find the proof for my ‘dubious claim’ unless you are anti-academic, anti-book, anti-fact-i-don’t-like?
secondly i didn’t say that he spoke for all nats but who bothered telling him to pull his head in? no one. so women will continue to feel like katherine rich does-short changed.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 8:48 pm
Time to get a new colourful shirt DPF. You’ve been photographed too many times wearing the same one
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Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 8:54 pm
hehe the best way to win an argument- have d4j agree with your opposition
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 8:58 pm
Good night mung bean .
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
The Bean:
The original claim was yours. Let’s repeat it here: “and you wonder why so few women voted for national last election…”.
I would like to see statistics regarding:
(1) female votes for Labour as a percentage of total female votes;
(2) female votes for National as a percentage of total female votes;
(3) female votes as a percentage of total possible female votes (ie accounting for those females who chose not to vote).
Since you’ve got sources falling out of your ears, how about directing me to the most relevant one. Then we might have some basis for discussion.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 9:02 pm
The Bean the only people on this blog that treat women with distain is Robinsod and the nome.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
The Bean – how was Tauhei Notts comment misogynistic? He made a rather tongue-in-cheek observation about the relative attractiveness of different groups of women. Still, you achieved your objective: to goad a reaction and/or threadjack. Well done.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 9:37 pm
if you would like to see the statistics go and find them. try the NZES election study for 2005, any first year politics text book or…a national party strategist. i am sure dpf is aware of a gender imbalance in the 2005 vote
Young Maori males are the least likely to vote and at the last election turnout of the general pop was around 77 percent. god knows what the gender breakdown of env is, don’t know that off teh top of my head. you want a discussion go do the research to catch up.
and yes…i still stand by my comment about the attitude of the original poster, your attitude and d4j attitude all being symptomatic of the perception national projects about its attitudes to women.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 9:40 pm
Hey mung bean my female partner and my two daughters’ are laughing their tits off at your hateful feminazi bitch mentality.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 9:49 pm
yep…you got me pegged d4j. i comment on nationals vote at the last election and someone judging political affiliations by looks and i am a ‘hateful feminazi bitch’. why don’t you call me a …lesbian as well? or say i am…ugly? or a ….whore? Peak oil, I think National has some work to do on the female vote. i think John K will help with that substantially. but i promise you, i do not for one minute imagine all national supporters are like d4j. i just hope for their credibility that they do not allow people like d4j to make comments like the one above without going unchallenged. i can also understand why he has some access issues to his children
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
You go David get what you can, don’t be put off you will find someone. We have some nice country girls that would look after you but I fear they may be a bit rough on you. So never give up there is always someone out there.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 10:06 pm
The Bean:
Are you including me in this? That shows you up as an idiot. Try telling my wife about my attitude to women.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
I concur bean, D4J was wrong to accuse you of having a “hateful feminazi bitch mentality” And most of your reply was justified.
However, I do think the last remark you made was a little bit -well-sadistic. Given that people have committed suicide over that kind of issue.
I think you will find that many National supporters are not pitch-fork wielding witch-burners, they do live in the 21t century and would respect anyone’s right to be ugly, lesbian or a whore.
As for D4J – he is now getting moderated. as indeed we all are.
However:
“if you would like to see the statistics go and find them. try the NZES election study for 2005, any first year politics text book or…a national party strategist.”
It’s a bit of a custom here for people to provide something a little more tangible than ‘everyone knows it’s true’ when we make an assertion which involves figures.
I believe it is anecdotally accepted that National is under-represented by the female vote, but some people do actually believe that women who vote National are more attractive than women who vote Labour. Why on ‘standard’ yesterday, it even satirised this belief with a poster saying ‘fuck your ugly kids’ as if it was Nationals policy. (How I laughed!!)
It does rather beg the question ‘Why are ‘lefties’ (your term) so keen to bring children into political debate?”
We had Bill English’s teenage son, then a satirical poster, and then a casual remark like yours.
Anyway, what about the stats, to which you referred?
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 10:17 pm
you have shown yourself up for caring more about that comment i have made than a man spewing vitriol and swearing just above you. you continue to allow this attitude towards women to happen by not intervening. but whata i care. d4j is the crazy wako on your side and if the nats fail to have a representative front bench goodoh. if you can’t locate or read statistical analysis of voting trends…sad but not devastating.
Vote:i am going to go back to my hairy legged, fat, shorthaired, angry, commie, pc, lesbian lover. she understands me. she also agrees with me that all the men at national party meetings are fat, old, bald and wearing bad suits while labour has been attracting some of those slim, hot young male , stubbly faced socialists. ooops that wan’t very lezza of me…or pc
October 14th, 2007 at 10:22 pm
‘stubbly’ counts.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 10:23 pm
hahaha awesome mmmm stubblicious
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
*that above longish post was for POC btw. apologies for that not being clearer
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 10:26 pm
fairy enough I gotta go to bed now. I’ll be thinking about some of the stuff yo raised. But I ain’t telling you which bits.
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 10:27 pm
The Bean:
I don’t condone D4J’s outbursts – many here have seen me express my views on that. So wrong on that count.
I could locate or read statistical analysis of voting trends. But, as Lee says, that’s not the way things happen on Kiwiblog. Specific claims are put up, inspected, and debated. Phillip John/Roger Nome has experienced this – and now knows not to rely exclusively on Wikipedia. He’s upped his game, so to speak, which is good for him and good for us.
And your final paragraph says more about you – stereotyping National supporters (and impliedly assuming that I’m one).
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 11:28 pm
Another boozy weekend. Your liver must hate it!!!!!!!
Vote:October 14th, 2007 at 11:48 pm
“I could locate or read statistical analysis of voting trends. But, as Lee says, that’s not the way things happen on Kiwiblog. Specific claims are put up, inspected, and debated”
DPF’s posted about National’s inability to win the female vote in 05. I suspect you guys know this as well – you’re just hoping that bean won’t be bothered looking it up, and it seems you were right.
“Phillip John/Roger Nome has experienced this – and now knows not to rely exclusively on Wikipedia.”
Funny how I get so much shit about my sources here when I’m one of the few people here who actually bother to do any research – guess is pisses you guys off – what with reality clearly having a left wing bias and all. Never does occur to you that you can check the sources of a wiki article to assess its validity as a source – nope – then again, doing that doesn’t serve your purposes when all you’ve got is bluster and assumptions. Actually have you ever posted a link to some facts that support you’re argument in all your time spent here POC? I don’t think so? In fact I don’t think I’ve learned a single thing from you. Yet you keep on benefiting from my fact providing. I can’t help but feel like it’s all take and no give with you.
Vote:October 15th, 2007 at 1:11 am
Phillip John/Roger Nome:
Oh God – where to start with you?
Let’s start with your prize-plonker comment: what with reality clearly having a left wing bias and all. Reality? Clearly? My quibble with you – and it keeps coming up, boring I know – is you fail to distinguish between “proof” and “opinion”. There’s actually a fine line between statistical correlation and causation. That was taught to me at university. Were you asleep in that class?
Next you say all I have is bluster and assumptions? I say: that’s not a debating point; grow up.
And then: Actually have you ever posted a link to some facts that support you’re argument in all your time spent here POC? I don’t think so? I do occasionally post links – but let’s not let facts get in your way.
All of which leads you to the following: “In fact I don’t think I’ve learned a single thing from you”. Well, Phillip John/Roger Nome, either you’re a slow learner or completely thick. Why? Kiwiblog is a melting pot of ideas, and if you can’t learn of others, then that only shows up your blind ideology.
Unlike you, I actually have a full-time job which involves professional commitments and long hours. And, unlike you, I don’t pretend to be the know-it-all with a first class honours degree in political science.
Vote:You present your arguments in a certain way – quoting statistical information and data-based conclusions. So it should be expected that you’d provide sources.
October 15th, 2007 at 2:00 pm
“All of which leads you to the following: “In fact I don’t think I’ve learned a single thing from you”. Well, Phillip John/Roger Nome, either you’re a slow learner or completely thick. Why? Kiwiblog is a melting pot of ideas, and if you can’t learn of others, then that only shows up your blind ideology.”
Actually I’ve learned plenty of things from others who post on kiwiblog – just not you. You see some support their arguments with facts – that’s when the “learning” happens. All you seem to have is rhetoric and snide mockery and scorn – therefore you’re contributions are largely worthless.
“There’s actually a fine line between statistical correlation and causation. That was taught to me at university. Were you asleep in that class?”
True, it’s nearly impossible to prove anything with 100% certainty from statistical analysis – such is the complex world that we live in. That’s why I use a weight of evidence approach which utilises statistics, rational models and tertiary sources. Many on the right don’t seem to like this – I guess it raises the bar to high for some who have ….
“a full-time job which involves professional commitments and long hours.”
Vote:October 15th, 2007 at 2:04 pm
“Let’s start with your prize-plonker comment: what with reality clearly having a left wing bias and all. Reality? Clearly?”
Actually that was a comment on the more rabid right wing commentators who tend to ignore facts that conflict with their ideology/world view – thus the attacks on people who use facts in their arguments. This seems to have gone over your head. Sorry that it wasn’t obvious enough for you.
Vote:October 15th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
I think everyone’s gone home, gnome.
Vote:October 15th, 2007 at 5:39 pm
Looks like you had a big one, DPF. Wish I could have been there.
Vote:October 16th, 2007 at 4:43 am
btw dpf..
i understand the latest software update from apple froze any hacked i-phones..
turned them into ‘bricks’..
how is blubbys’ one..?
phil(whoar.co.nz)
Vote:October 16th, 2007 at 11:18 am
Working fine thanks Phil, fortunately i am a better tech than you appear to be.
Vote:October 16th, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Mick Jagger invited that back to his hotel room?
Vote: