General Debate 28 November 2007

November 28th, 2007 at 2:38 pm by David Farrar

The Banque in Auckland is a damn nice bar and restaurant.

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58 Responses to “General Debate 28 November 2007”

  1. Pascal (2,015 comments) says:

    I watched Firefly for the first time this weekend. What an utterly fabulous Sci-Fi series. Pity there will be no more forthcoming.

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  2. Sam Dixon (630 comments) says:

    David, when you see Key at National Party HQ next, can you ask for him us whether National paid Coldplay their royalities for using ‘Clocks’ in that boring video? Those in the know say it would have cost a pretty penny.

    (the standard has crashed again, too much traffic, so I can’t post to the story where IrishBill looks at the cost of the video – but kiwiblogblog has a summary http://kiwiblogblog.wordpress.com/2007/11/28/a-little-knowledge-is-a-dangerous-thing-for-national/ )

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  3. Pascal (2,015 comments) says:

    Didn’t you just get 30 demerits for link whoring Sam?

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  4. Sam Dixon (630 comments) says:

    I didn’t see that

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  5. boomtownprat (281 comments) says:

    It’s not “Clocks” on the video from what I can hear. It’s similar, in the same way that Coldplay are similar to Radiohead 10 years ago.

    So I guess it cost them nought.

    Nice conspiracy though

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  6. Wycroft (873 comments) says:

    In case others missed it I feel duty bound to relay a piece of TV gold that was broadcast last night – in my opinion right up with “I’ll have an O for awesome please …”

    The programme was Close Up at 7, and the topic was the search for Nicky Watson’s tiny lost dog.

    About five minutes into the story we get:

    Watson: “I must have yelled his name a million times.”
    Interviewer: “You’re hoarse.”
    Watson: “No, my dog.”

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  7. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    DPF Do you pronounce that Bank or Bonk As in Im going to Bonk tonight

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  8. llew (1,533 comments) says:

    Interviewer: “You’re hoarse.”
    Watson: “No, my dog.”

    LOL – Priceless!

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  9. Pascal (2,015 comments) says:

    Sam Dixon: I didn’t see that

    No, because you were too busy posting links all over the blog.

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  10. David Farrar (1,875 comments) says:

    Bank I think.

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  11. dad4justice (7,988 comments) says:

    “Sam Dixon: I didn’t see that”

    Is that 30 demerit points from the sub standard crew ? I await the judges decision with much anticipation ?

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  12. Right of way is Way of Right (1,129 comments) says:

    Now THAT needs to be on You Tube! LOL

    Hey, If I name my dog “Vote National”, and he get’s lost, can I call his name out a million times too?

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  13. Peak Oil Conspiracy (3,160 comments) says:

    Sam Dixon:

    DPF’s given you 30 of the best:

    http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/11/soun.html#comment-373782

    Still, it could be more painful, if Panty Slut Boy were administering the punishment :)

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  14. dad4justice (7,988 comments) says:

    “Still, it could be more painful, if Panty Slut Boy were administering the punishment :)”

    Nice one POC , just imagine him getting a severe whipping as the stereo speakers are blasting out the DEVO song WHIP IT GOOD – OH YEAH – WHIP INTO SHAPE – WHIP IT GOOD LICKSPITTLE YAYAYA :-)

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  15. Bevan (3,965 comments) says:

    Oh dear:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/story.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=10478738

    Is the flagship running aground already?

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  16. Peak Oil Conspiracy (3,160 comments) says:

    Bevan:

    You shouldn’t trouble yourself over such inconsequential matters. To quote from the article:

    [IRD KiwiSaver spokeswoman Lise] Hutcheon said she could not explain why some employers were getting arrears letters without being told what they were in arrears for. The IRD was coping well with what had been a higher than expected influx of people joining KiwiSaver, she said.

    So there.

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  17. Buggerlugs (1,609 comments) says:

    Saffron in Arrowtown wins damn fine restaurant hands down.

    As for royalities (sic – you loser Sam), how are Labour doing paying Chris Knox for “It’s a Bitter Way With Labour” (HT: Bryce @ liberation). Oh yeah, that’s right. It only got played once.

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  18. Peak Oil Conspiracy (3,160 comments) says:

    Buggerlugs:

    Are you sure it wasn’t “It’s a Better Way with Labour”? I wouldn’t want to think Chris Knox was taking the piss or anything :)

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  19. dad4justice (7,988 comments) says:

    kiwisaver sinks ( should have been called kiwisucker from the start ) – this is better than a Monty Python script haha.

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  20. Buggerlugs (1,609 comments) says:

    Bitter
    Beater
    Buggery
    Berater
    Biohazard
    they’re all terms that fit with what Labour’s goals are

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  21. slightlyrighty (2,499 comments) says:

    Hey, If I name my dog “Vote National”, and he get’s lost, can I call his name out a million times too?

    :) :) :)

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  22. Sam Dixon (630 comments) says:

    I won’t risk David’s wrath by posting links – but listen to Key’s video on youtube at 30 seconds for about 20 seconds, then type in clocks coldplay and watch the music video…

    I’ve listened to the music several times and I’m certainits Clocks – its not quite the normal version but its just minor difference in balance and style (actually, it sounds like the national verison has been done acoustically, like an unofficial copy) – just listened to it again and the tune is clearly the intro to Clocks.

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  23. Sam Dixon (630 comments) says:

    Buggerlugs – Chris Knox performed that himself and Labour has his permission to use the song as a campaign anthem – indeed that’s what he wrote it for.

    I’m just curious bcause getting Coldplay’s permission to use Clocks would cost a fortune, and i’m wondering if the Naitonal party did it.

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  24. Buggerlugs (1,609 comments) says:

    That Chris Martin – he’d be a Labour Party voter. Coldplay is so limp and drippy they should be filed next to Celine Dion in the remainders basket at the Warehouse. Note to John Key: AC/DC or Shihad next time, with a bit of Pat Benatar for the female vote…

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  25. Buggerlugs (1,609 comments) says:

    I might need to doublecheck but it doesn’t matter what Chris said – APRA will still want the royalities (sic)

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  26. dad4justice (7,988 comments) says:

    “I won’t risk David’s wrath by posting links”

    Nice to see that sanity prevails . Sam suck socialist poohs .

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  27. Sam Dixon (630 comments) says:

    I would be very surprised if any political party would spend the kind of money it costs to get permission to use a major international band’s song when there’s not any real gain from having that particluar piece of music… which makes me suspect they’ve not paid Coldplay.

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  28. Peak Oil Conspiracy (3,160 comments) says:

    Sam Dixon:

    I’m just curious bcause getting Coldplay’s permission to use Clocks would cost a fortune, and i’m wondering if the Naitonal party did it.

    There’s a discussion going on at http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2007/11/electoral_finance_bill_marches.html#comment-373951.

    So far your claim isn’t garnering much support.

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  29. dad4justice (7,988 comments) says:

    Talking about standard cup chicks, where is the rogered gnomer rabbit ? I hope he got that bad real virus affecting wabbits .

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  30. Sam Dixon (630 comments) says:

    Buggerlugs – the music is the artist (or label’s) property and they can give away the rights as they choose… to suggest APRA could force Chris Knox to take royalties for a use he has authorised for free is just stupid.

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  31. dad4justice (7,988 comments) says:

    Look Sam go back at talk crap over with Sigmund socialist saddle wearing freak show of meaningless woffle creeps on bad acid . In other words sod off spittle ~!!

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  32. boomtownprat (281 comments) says:

    Sam, you are clearly tone deaf.

    IT IS NOT CLOCKS!

    Nice diversion from the issues though.

    Do you guys go to a course for threadjacking, or is it an innate trait?

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  33. Buggerlugs (1,609 comments) says:

    Stupid?
    Pot Kettle Black
    I am 99% sure James Reyne ‘donated’ a song to a football team and APRA still rooted them for the royalities (sic).

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  34. PhilBest (5,120 comments) says:

    It would be interesting to know what the music on the John Key video IS. It is not “Clocks” by Coldplay. It is just yet ANOTHER use of an utterly hackneyed sequence of arpeggiated chords. Anybody who thought “Clocks” was remotely original doesn’t know much about music.

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  35. Steve (4,524 comments) says:

    Well I have just watched the John Key video. When will you morons take it on board that it is not “Clocks” by Coldplay?
    In my neighbourhood there is a youn try-hard band that practises on Saturday afternoons, they do this song.
    The video was good and all the trolls can bitch about is how much should be paid for the use of this music. Sad. Are they trying to take the emphasis off the video? But of course!!!!
    Trit trot trit trot, who’s that walking over my bridge —- wankers

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  36. kaykaybee (150 comments) says:

    BANQUE is my local, sorry to have missed you DPF

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  37. Adam Smith (890 comments) says:

    Our Blessed Leader has been sounding off on climate change again. This time in Europe. Yet again she is promulgating her view that we will lead the world. Yeah! Through destruction of our economy and failure to understand that until China, US, Russia and India and Australia take part whatever we and anyone else do is irrelevant. The regime that she and her acolytes plus the Luddites called the Greens want to impose is such that there will be no need to turn out the lights as we will not have enough power to switch them on, as thanks to H1 and the Luddites we want sutainable power, but wind power is out, it is ugly, hydro upsets the fish, coal is dirty and nuclear whilst best is confused with weaponry and America.

    Roll on the revolution and the end of Labour as we know it!!

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  38. Buggerlugs (1,609 comments) says:

    On a different note, ventured over to the bogstandard to check out the love they’re giving John Key and as I was about to leave a comment I had to laugh at their captcha: “money thieves”.

    How appropriate for a Labour Party HQ blog!

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  39. krazykiwi (9,189 comments) says:

    From stuff.co.nz

    “Prime Minister Helen Clark was spotted texting on her mobile phone during the Queen’s opening speech at the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting, a British newspaper has reported”

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  40. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    Sam – is this what it has come to? All that devotion to Labour and all that legal training and excellence as a researcher, and education and training leads to you wittering on about such a tenuous attempt to smear National with an open debate about the provenance of a sound-track? Geddalife, mate!

    Alternatively, go and make me a coffee, there’s a good chap. Seeings as you’ve clearly got nothing better to do with your precious time, than listen to soundtracks.

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  41. Pascal (2,015 comments) says:

    Lee C: Seeings as you’ve clearly got nothing better to do with your precious time, than listen to soundtracks.

    You forgot to finish that sentence. It should have ended with “ and getting it so blitheringly wrong“.

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  42. Pascal (2,015 comments) says:

    And what makes it even funnier Lee is that the Standard boys went and posted it everywhere, with links back and so on, feeling oh so very proud of them for identifying a supposed illegality.

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  43. Chuck Bird (4,773 comments) says:

    EFB Protest March and the Anti Smacking Referendum

    The two issues are very much related. The Clark government will not listen to the people. It is also a concern that the EFB may make it very difficult to collect signatures in public.

    We have over 230,000 signatures now so we need less the 70,000 to make the required 300,000.

    Clark will not want to be answering questions in a leader’s debate as to what she will do if 80% of the public at election time indicate that want the anti smacking legislation amended or repealed.

    I will be collecting signatures front of the Papakura Post Office between 9:30 and midday today (Thursday) along with people around the country. If anyone is driving through Papakura it would be great if they would sign the petition calling for a referendum to repeal or amend Bradford’s and Clark’s anti smacking legislation.

    If any one wishes to help collect signatures please contact Unity for Liberty

    http://www.unityforliberty.net.nz/register.html

    or download a form and bring it along to the march.

    Regards
    Chuck

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  44. Andrew W (1,629 comments) says:

    “Prime Minister Helen Clark was spotted texting on her mobile phone during the Queen’s opening speech at the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting, a British newspaper has reported”

    Well if Dear Leader is doing it, it must be OK, even desirable. Given the socialist herd instinct, next time the Queen makes a speech in here expect all the good little socialists in the audience to be furiously txting away so as to stay in good with their herd mates.

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  45. dad4justice (7,988 comments) says:

    Was the text from a certain shuttled wombat at the Airport where someone was having problems in a cubicle again ?

    [DPF: Bzzt 20 demerits]

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  46. Seamonkey Madness (328 comments) says:

    I wonder who she was txting?

    Graham Dalton?
    Hrd u need mre $ for nxt AC. Am sure we cn hlp out.

    Trev Mallard?
    Kp up the pressr on tht whstle blowa, k Trev? No fightng tho!

    H2?
    Tld evry1 that we r leaders for clim8 chnge. Hp that ok?

    Prof Davis?????
    Don’t 4gt 2 water the plnts.

    Cullen?
    Dnt let JK get u down whle I’m away. Rpt afta me – Labr gd, Ntnl bd.

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  47. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    “Prime Minister Helen Clark was spotted texting on her mobile phone during the Queen’s opening speech at the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting, a British newspaper has reported”

    Helen treats the queen as a nobody

    It’s the other way around.

    I have a feeling she wouldn’t dare pull that stunt with the Maori king.

    She shows her appalling disrespect not only to the head of the commonwealth, but also to the commonmwealth and the citizens of this country to whom she has proved time and again she feels nothing but disdain.

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  48. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    Her and Cacofinix are on the way out going by todays signs.

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  49. dad4justice (7,988 comments) says:

    Yes himamoo, David Farrar can try and silence me , but why bother as wit is obviously a crime on kiwiblog ? Not like you twit , I don’t care whether I am banned or not . Hey Hiumooo mongrel , do you know how many Maori Women and Men I help with the court system you sick fuck !!

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  50. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    excellent post cacofinix

    all the more to help your demerits.

    The day of your permanent ban is coming along splendidly.

    Glad I could help.

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  51. dad4justice (7,988 comments) says:

    You are one twisted coward himumoo . I would really ask you one thing . What is your real name . Regards Peter Burns .

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  52. dad4justice (7,988 comments) says:

    David Farrar concerning my above comment which earned me 20 black points for abuse ?? I dare not rewrite it as another 20 is on offer. Then how can this be , as surely wombat and cubicle hardly form the basis for punishment . If you don’t want me to continue comments on this blog , simply say so . I did not suggest vulgarity or profanity , unless of course the truth hurts ? Anyway .

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  53. gd (2,286 comments) says:

    Crazy Clark would have text just to show her contempt for Her Majesty
    What a pity HM couldnt have ordered her taken to the Tower and had her head separated from her neck like in the good old days.

    CC has a very small mind mentality. She shows no equiette or protocol or basic respect for the Royal Family As others have said she wouldnt dare do that in the presence of the Maori King nor any Muslim leader.

    Disgraceful the sooner she gores and stops embarassing us on the world stage as she does the better

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  54. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    “What is your real name . Regards Peter Burns .”

    In consolation that you are never going to know my true identity as heores usurping cyber felons never divulge their identities, I will never the less commiserate with you your latest demerit points.

    I must say I share your mystified state at the 20 demerits to that particular post and read it thrice to glean the offense. I could not and simply took that DPF knew more than me about your underlying current.

    At the same time, things mount up and you must understand if you are being misunderstood you bring it upon yourself for your rude, insulting, meaningless and perverse renderings to intelligent and good people.

    If these demerits do not wake you up, your slide top oblivion cannot be post poned. and if by chance I hear a shrill shriek of “Hinamooooooo, I hate you!” as you fall to your demise in the abyss I will not have to ponder your fate over long.

    But again, the reason for the demerits are cryptic.

    [DPF: D4J got 20 demerits for obviously referring to the Peter Davis rumour. It is quite unfair to Peter Davis to have people keep dragging it up, when there isn't a shred of evidence that it is true]

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  55. dad4justice (7,988 comments) says:

    We disagree on the hero bit, because a genuine coward is always reluctant to reveal their real identity . Look hinamanu , you never leave my case, rather tiresome . Do you want me to go ? , as I can’t understand your anonymous paradox ?

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  56. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    For some one who calls me a coward, no one still knows what you look like
    even though you were (supposedly) sticking out as an official at a public rally.

    You are the master of anonymity and I will not have to wait long to remind you of your safe and secure verbal savagery on individuals in this blog.

    the only mystery I pose to you is that no one else can be bothered staying on your case.

    and your self description as a batman is misleading.
    A batman is a junior oficer assigned to the assistance of a senior officer and gentleman of which you have none of these qualifications.

    sir!

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  57. dad4justice (7,988 comments) says:

    Hinamanu – look I got no energy’s to waste on such a jerk . Get a life and keep out of my face and I keep well away from you Miss Coward ?

    Deal , good, end of story wally .

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  58. hinamanu (2,352 comments) says:

    “[DPF: D4J got 20 demerits for obviously referring to the Peter Davis rumour. It is quite unfair to Peter Davis to have people keep dragging it up, when there isn’t a shred of evidence that it is true]”

    You are officially labeled a liar….. and on and on you go.

    Oblivion awaits,, Cathedral sq would’ve been a better alternative,,

    for a man

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