PM popular in UK

December 16th, 2007 at 4:39 pm by David Farrar

Iain Dale’s blog is one of the most widely read in the UK. He’s a former staffer and candidate for the Tories, but takes an independent line which makes it a popular read from all sides.  However most readers would be Conservative.

Anyway he ran a competition asking readers to rate 13 world leaders from 1 to 10, and Helen Clark actually made the top half being in 6th place with a rating of 4.4.

The most favourite was Sarkozy, followed by Merkel.  Then Ireland’s Bertie Ahern and Canada’s Stephen Harper.

Both Clark and Rudd beat out George W Bush (and this is a conservative blosite poll!) and Vladimir Putin.

Could be a fun summer poll for Kiwiblog – get people to rate Rudd, Gordon Brown, Harper, Bush, Sarkozy and Merkel.   Not sure if enough NZers follow enough to make it worthwhile.

Another option is to run our own Democratic and Republican primary.  I’m still backing Clinton on the Democratic side and Giuliani on the Republican side.

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26 Responses to “PM popular in UK”

  1. Graeme Edgeler (3,280 comments) says:

    <i>I’m still backing Clinton on the Democratic side and Giuliani on the Republican side.</i>

    Backing? Or predicting?

    And can I offer up the suggestion of this website for anyone interested in whom they should be backing for the US.

    [DPF: Backing. At this stage also predicting but the two are not linked]

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  2. Graeme Edgeler (3,280 comments) says:

    That would be … um … this website:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/candidate-match-game.htm

    Interesting, and a reasonable amount of fun for the politically inclined.

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  3. Michael E (274 comments) says:

    I quite like Sarkozy – but I’m reserving judgement until I see if he’s got balls as big as Thatcher’s for outlasting the militant unions.

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  4. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    I didn’t know Dear Leader was a world leader, if she is rated 6th then there is no doubt the world is indeed fucked.

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  5. He-Man (270 comments) says:

    Clark is more of a man than jon key. Thats why she got a high approval.

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  6. GNZ (228 comments) says:

    I am inclined to think the Republicans are likely to adjust their opinion more towards a more solid republican (http://www.politicalcompass.org/usprimaries2008) come election time – for example huckabee or Romney. Having said that Guliani might have enough momentum to just scrape through since he has a good odds advantage http://odds.bestbetting.com/specials/politics/usa/republican-candidate-2008
    I expect Guliani to not perform particularly well in the later debates.

    overall I think a Romney or Huckabee (probably the former) will just squeeze out Guliani.

    I think Hillary will win easily.

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  7. sicoff (28 comments) says:

    “I didn’t know Dear Leader was a world leader, if she is rated 6th then there is no doubt the world is indeed fucked.”

    well if you put down mein kampf and read the guardian or the times you would, your comment is frivolous to say the least.

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  8. baxter (893 comments) says:

    four out of ten does seem rather on the high side. I guess in NCEA terms it means ‘achieved’.

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  9. PaulL (6,015 comments) says:

    Back: I like Romney much more than Guliani. Guliani is apparently a bit of a wanker – goes through the wives, rude to staff. Politically astute and did a reasonable job in NY, but I suspect some people would find it very hard to vote for him.

    Romney is relatively untested, and the whole Mormon thing makes him difficult to elect. His record as a state governor is pretty good, and I think he would be a less divisive President than either Bush or Clinton would be.

    On the left I fully expect Clinton to get there, and also to take the presidency. I think that will be a bit of a disaster for the left – she won’t be an arch-pragmatist like her husband was. I’ve always felt that she wants to run a Clinton administration with spine and principles. That isn’t a bad thing in theory, but in reality government is about compromise, and I’m not convinced she has compromise in her.

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  10. Lindsay Addie (1,321 comments) says:

    If Clark is popular with the Pommies they can have her.

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  11. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Why would I want to read the guardian sicoff, I don’t live in pommy land, I live in NZ. If some stupid survey claims that Dear Leader is rated the 6th best leader in the world then I’m the bloody queen mother. I quess this says more about how far left the stupid poms have turned and it looks like many of them are in serious need of professional help.

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  12. tim barclay (886 comments) says:

    I do not trust that result for Helen Clark. Who the hell has heard of her. I bet that is more work from that machine that puts all those automated votes in. They get some kid to do it and then serve him up if he is caught. The gangs do similar things getting kids to do burglaries.

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  13. Raffles (69 comments) says:

    Has anyone read what our Bertie has been up to not to mention our German socalist friend.
    And we only got sixth ?

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  14. emmess (1,418 comments) says:

    Clark would be by far the least well known on the list byBritish people
    If they know her better she would be second or third from the bottom (as ranked by British Conservatives)

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  15. Redbaiter (13,197 comments) says:

    Dunno about that. The British Conservatives are pretty fucked up and probably further left today than the Labour party was a couple of decades ago. Conservative voters in the US also have very little reason to vote for any of the present Republican front runners, who all look like pale imitations of the pathetic RINO Schwarznegger, who has managed to make an absolute balls up of California state, now running so far over budget there’s emergency measures about to be announced. (“emergency measures” is leftist code for higher taxes). I’m for Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo. (No chance this time around.)

    Slightly off topic, one has to give credit to Ron Paul, who rated 11% in one recent poll. This is an unbelievable showing for a Libertarian based Republican (actually, Paul has never been a member of the Libs, which is probably why he’s doing so well- unfettered by all of their doctrinal bullshit) I don’t like Paul for his anti Iraq stand, but hell, I’d put that aside if he looked like making it. After such an heroic campaign, Paul has to be worthy of support, and just imagine what could be achieved if against all odds, he actually did make the White House. In terms of policy on non Iraq matters, Paul is streets ahead of anyone else, (even Huckabee with his Fair Tax proposal.)

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  16. emmess (1,418 comments) says:

    Sorry, I actually meant small c conservatives

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  17. Craig Ranapia (1,915 comments) says:

    Dunno about that. The British Conservatives are pretty fucked up and probably further left today than the Labour party was a couple of decades ago.

    Jesus, redbaiter, you mean like 1983 when Michael Foot lead Labour to the polls on a platform of unilateral nuclear disarmament, higher personal taxation, wholesale nationalisation and a return to a more interventionist industrial policy? The Tories are to the left of that? I know Cameron is the anti-Christ to the hard right, but that’s a ridiculous assertion.

    To be honest, I have to wonder whether the only thing most of Ian Dale’s readers know about Helen Clark is that she opposed the Iraq War, comes from a country where the wine is rather good, and the Kiri bint has a nice set of pipes.

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  18. Sonic_Watch (42 comments) says:

    I’ve come to the quick and entirely empirical-based obsevation that Redbaiter is either sitting in front of his computer wearing just his underpants and eating Rice Krispies, is a former child of the indulgent welfare state who, after extracting all the personal benefit, now demands that he not pay a penny of taxes to apply the same benefits to the current generation. Maybe not accurate, but I’m going to repeat it anyway.

    As far as I can see, Iain Dale’s poll used some form of ordering scale to rate relative popularity of heads of government he considered relevant, and is showing only the average results. Thus, all we can conclude is that, on average, respondants would prefer HC in a fist-fight to Ehud Olmert, but clearly think Mahmohed Singh would beat her hands down. We don’t know, for instance, how she would fare against Gordon Brown.

    Furthermore, as far as I can see, that it was based only on his readers’ opinions, and was not a nation-wide survey as the article title suggest. His readership appeals to the right-of-centre.

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  19. Lee C (4,516 comments) says:

    “To be honest, I have to wonder whether the only thing most of Ian Dale’s readers know about Helen Clark is that she opposed the Iraq War, comes from a country where the wine is rather good, and the Kiri bint has a nice set of pipes.”

    The first bit. That’s all most pommies know about Helen Clark.

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  20. Dave Mann (1,200 comments) says:

    Its a fake ‘poll’. As one of the commenters said on the site itself, Rudd was only elected a couple of weeks ago, so how could he even figure as a ‘woeld leader’, let alone so highly?

    Its nonsense dreamed up while some ‘journalist’ was having a mental wank after a dull day at the office.

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  21. Dave Mann (1,200 comments) says:

    sorry… *world* leader. Haven’t had my coffee this morning…

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  22. Sonic_Watch (42 comments) says:

    Let me repeat, Ian Dale’s readership is primarily right-of-centre. Those who’re left-wing (or believe themselves to be, such as my thesis material, Chronic) would see the world through the prism of Iraq, but not ID’s mates.

    What this pommie knows firstly about Helen Clark is her paintings.

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  23. PhilBest (5,120 comments) says:

    I agree with the people who point out that the pommies would actually, really, hardly know Helen Clark.

    But if she did manage to go from NZ Labour to a UN post, it would raise the average level of ethics in both organisations.

    I agree Sarkozy is good, probably the best president France has ever had. He has a tough job to do though, to reform their unsustainable entitlement state. It is a question what will become, fiscally speaking, of nations that persist in democratically removing any leader with the balls to tackle this problem. What happens when they go certifiably bankrupt and are on the credit stop list for every international lending organisation? And incidentally, for all the appearance of utopia about Sweden, they are the furthest down this track.

    My favourite world leader is President Vaclav Klaus of the Czech Republic. Check him out, all you conservatives who like their favourite politicians to come with principles and a spine – which excludes many of Britain’s current Tories and NZ’s Nats.

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  24. grumpyoldhori (2,416 comments) says:

    Good god, a Mormon who proudly states his
    military age sons are doing as much fighting
    as the lads in Iraq by driving him about as
    president.

    If Hilary or Obama are smart they will grab
    James Webb for vice president, it will stop all
    the Chickenhawk Republicans from saying
    that Obama dodged the draft.

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  25. Murray (8,844 comments) says:

    Fine shes popular in Britain, send her there.

    Here shes least weeks fastfood wrapper.

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  26. kiwitoffee (383 comments) says:

    PM popular in UK? I’m not surprised. So are eating curried chips and putting a ferret down your trousers.

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