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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389596</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth hurts these cowardly, secretive, spineless, socialist - pc poodles that make up this deplorable liarbour gummint . 

Huckleberry Hound dog wouldn&#039;t even piss on their fish and chips !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth hurts these cowardly, secretive, spineless, socialist &#8211; pc poodles that make up this deplorable liarbour gummint . </p>
<p>Huckleberry Hound dog wouldn&#8217;t even piss on their fish and chips !!</p>
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		<title>By: go NZ</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389593</link>
		<dc:creator>go NZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All very interesting,boomtown and co.What upsets aunty Hell-in is that she cant control the EB ,who are a tiny minority but because of sheer outrage at her grotty social policies and anti-Americanism did their best to alert fellow NZers to where we are headed if HCs agenda isnt disrupted.
Have a look at the pamplets they did in 2004/5 and see the ISSUES ARE STILL VALID and debate them instead of the EB for a change.
The fact is, the EB pamplets have resulted in a fatal over-reaction by the paranoid comrades in the beehive in dreaming up the EFB.
&quot;never was so fewer people,printing so many pamplets owed so much by so many&quot;
Have a think about that O Sleep and co</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All very interesting,boomtown and co.What upsets aunty Hell-in is that she cant control the EB ,who are a tiny minority but because of sheer outrage at her grotty social policies and anti-Americanism did their best to alert fellow NZers to where we are headed if HCs agenda isnt disrupted.<br />
Have a look at the pamplets they did in 2004/5 and see the ISSUES ARE STILL VALID and debate them instead of the EB for a change.<br />
The fact is, the EB pamplets have resulted in a fatal over-reaction by the paranoid comrades in the beehive in dreaming up the EFB.<br />
&#8220;never was so fewer people,printing so many pamplets owed so much by so many&#8221;<br />
Have a think about that O Sleep and co</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389575</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone know where one could find membership stats for the various parties? The labour party website doesn&#039;t appear to have any such info, but it would be interesting to know what the actual membership numbers are right now compared to, say, five years ago.
G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know where one could find membership stats for the various parties? The labour party website doesn&#8217;t appear to have any such info, but it would be interesting to know what the actual membership numbers are right now compared to, say, five years ago.<br />
G</p>
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		<title>By: boomtownprat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389571</link>
		<dc:creator>boomtownprat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats right.

I imagine the saying.....&quot;hell hath no fury fury like a rich breth scorned&quot;

may have some relevance soon. I imagine the constant stream of small value donations to the Nats and ACT will really trouble the respctive treasurers soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats right.</p>
<p>I imagine the saying&#8230;..&#8221;hell hath no fury fury like a rich breth scorned&#8221;</p>
<p>may have some relevance soon. I imagine the constant stream of small value donations to the Nats and ACT will really trouble the respctive treasurers soon!</p>
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		<title>By: burt</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389569</link>
		<dc:creator>burt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of expect the EB to have the last laugh in this one. Investigate magazine has been very quiet for a long time, waiting their time for the election lead up I expect. It&#039;s just a hunch I have, no foundation other than nobody likes being denigrated from such a high level by such a crooked and exposed bunch of poodles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of expect the EB to have the last laugh in this one. Investigate magazine has been very quiet for a long time, waiting their time for the election lead up I expect. It&#8217;s just a hunch I have, no foundation other than nobody likes being denigrated from such a high level by such a crooked and exposed bunch of poodles.</p>
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		<title>By: boomtownprat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389560</link>
		<dc:creator>boomtownprat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zutroy,

bingo

&quot;so there’s only one logical reason why Labour sought to do this - their bill was about shifting the rules in their favour as incumbents.&quot;

I personally find it disturbing that even the most rabid labourites don&#039;t register this.

When something so shallow and self serving hasd been pushed through the NZ legislative process, you are morally obliged to ask why. The answer I believe is the biggest irony of all. It&#039;s not the EB...........it&#039;s the Labour Party bank balance! 

They are broke and need your money now and for your  money to go to no one else but them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zutroy,</p>
<p>bingo</p>
<p>&#8220;so there’s only one logical reason why Labour sought to do this &#8211; their bill was about shifting the rules in their favour as incumbents.&#8221;</p>
<p>I personally find it disturbing that even the most rabid labourites don&#8217;t register this.</p>
<p>When something so shallow and self serving hasd been pushed through the NZ legislative process, you are morally obliged to ask why. The answer I believe is the biggest irony of all. It&#8217;s not the EB&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..it&#8217;s the Labour Party bank balance! </p>
<p>They are broke and need your money now and for your  money to go to no one else but them.</p>
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		<title>By: Zutroy Abadolov</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389558</link>
		<dc:creator>Zutroy Abadolov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:52:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But again, if the Exclusive Brethren are the problem, then why make changes to what is legal election activity on the internet? The Brethren aren&#039;t even allowed to use the internet according to their own teachings, so there&#039;s only one logical reason why Labour sought to do this - their bill was about shifting the rules in their favour as incumbents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But again, if the Exclusive Brethren are the problem, then why make changes to what is legal election activity on the internet? The Brethren aren&#8217;t even allowed to use the internet according to their own teachings, so there&#8217;s only one logical reason why Labour sought to do this &#8211; their bill was about shifting the rules in their favour as incumbents.</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389557</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point Zutroy the EB came unstuck because they were secretive about their good intentions. I say, too hell to the wind and be upfront and in the face of this corrupt liarbour regime of demented socialist parasitic twisters !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Zutroy the EB came unstuck because they were secretive about their good intentions. I say, too hell to the wind and be upfront and in the face of this corrupt liarbour regime of demented socialist parasitic twisters !!</p>
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		<title>By: James Sleep</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389556</link>
		<dc:creator>James Sleep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not represent the Labour Party</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not represent the Labour Party</p>
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		<title>By: Zutroy Abadolov</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389555</link>
		<dc:creator>Zutroy Abadolov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to the issue at hand - why would the state even bother to try and regulate content on the internet? If website content gets too shrill it becomes counter-productive and ends up helping those the site were advocating against. 

I just think of James Sleep&#039;s blogging attempts, and wonder at how freespeech made Sleep become unhelpful to Labour as his poorly thought out frothing posts made him (and his party) look stupid.

And in the end, freedom of speech is its own punishment as it is its own reward. The Brethrens tried to tip out Labour and the Greens. But in the end, the media coverage turned the Brethren pamphlets into an own goal and probably helped Labour (while causing suspicion and revulsion towards the EBs).

One wonders how things might have turned out had the EBs been upfront about their intentions and called a press conference to launch their pamphlet, saying they have had a gutsful of Labour and want to tell people to vote against them. I suspect most of the subsequent drama wouldn&#039;t have occurred.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the issue at hand &#8211; why would the state even bother to try and regulate content on the internet? If website content gets too shrill it becomes counter-productive and ends up helping those the site were advocating against. </p>
<p>I just think of James Sleep&#8217;s blogging attempts, and wonder at how freespeech made Sleep become unhelpful to Labour as his poorly thought out frothing posts made him (and his party) look stupid.</p>
<p>And in the end, freedom of speech is its own punishment as it is its own reward. The Brethrens tried to tip out Labour and the Greens. But in the end, the media coverage turned the Brethren pamphlets into an own goal and probably helped Labour (while causing suspicion and revulsion towards the EBs).</p>
<p>One wonders how things might have turned out had the EBs been upfront about their intentions and called a press conference to launch their pamphlet, saying they have had a gutsful of Labour and want to tell people to vote against them. I suspect most of the subsequent drama wouldn&#8217;t have occurred.</p>
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		<title>By: James Sleep</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389553</link>
		<dc:creator>James Sleep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D4J - Memories ay, memories. Paper overalls to bring back memories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D4J &#8211; Memories ay, memories. Paper overalls to bring back memories.</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389551</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook, myspace, bebo join em all and spread the word . I have linked thousands of fathers groups around the globe,  so all the kiwi voters overseas know about the corrupt regime in NZ .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook, myspace, bebo join em all and spread the word . I have linked thousands of fathers groups around the globe,  so all the kiwi voters overseas know about the corrupt regime in NZ .</p>
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		<title>By: boomtownprat</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389550</link>
		<dc:creator>boomtownprat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent, normal service resumed

Back to the website.

Great idea. Join the group on facebook. (Must join the NZ network first)

If it&#039;s legal or not is not the issue. The issue is this issue will continue well beyond the beltway (arrogant Clarkist paraphrasing acknowledeged).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent, normal service resumed</p>
<p>Back to the website.</p>
<p>Great idea. Join the group on facebook. (Must join the NZ network first)</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s legal or not is not the issue. The issue is this issue will continue well beyond the beltway (arrogant Clarkist paraphrasing acknowledeged).</p>
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		<title>By: James Sleep</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389549</link>
		<dc:creator>James Sleep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what I&#039;ll send you for your xmas pressie nxt year D4J - Paper overalls!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what I&#8217;ll send you for your xmas pressie nxt year D4J &#8211; Paper overalls!</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389548</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boomtownprat and burt - can you hear a faint whisper from a naughty thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boomtownprat and burt &#8211; can you hear a faint whisper from a naughty thing?</p>
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		<title>By: James Sleep</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389547</link>
		<dc:creator>James Sleep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D4J - remember, do not call me tmrw at 6am ok. Good dog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D4J &#8211; remember, do not call me tmrw at 6am ok. Good dog</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389546</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James usually debates with mannequins .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James usually debates with mannequins .</p>
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		<title>By: James Sleep</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389545</link>
		<dc:creator>James Sleep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry guys. I&#039;ll get my own back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry guys. I&#8217;ll get my own back.</p>
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		<title>By: burt</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389544</link>
		<dc:creator>burt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boomtownprat

It said it was debating with me but had made 5 comments since my last post without a single reference to what we were debating....

The boy is a tard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boomtownprat</p>
<p>It said it was debating with me but had made 5 comments since my last post without a single reference to what we were debating&#8230;.</p>
<p>The boy is a tard.</p>
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		<title>By: dad4justice</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/a_new_website.html#comment-389543</link>
		<dc:creator>dad4justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fart oh go to sleep</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fart oh go to sleep</p>
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