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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/mccain_wins_florida.html#comment-402033</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone note the irony of the Kenyan democracy in meltdown while a grandson of Kenya runs for the office of leadership of the &quot;free and democratic world&quot;. 

Would his election allow a change perception of the USA and an easier path to redemption for the &quot;obnoxious&quot; super power?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone note the irony of the Kenyan democracy in meltdown while a grandson of Kenya runs for the office of leadership of the &#8220;free and democratic world&#8221;. </p>
<p>Would his election allow a change perception of the USA and an easier path to redemption for the &#8220;obnoxious&#8221; super power?</p>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/mccain_wins_florida.html#comment-402024</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul L 

SPC: “Hate of a secular socialist regime.” Is that how we describe Saddam Hussein these days? Seems a bit of revisionism going on there.

What is there to understand? 

The capitalist USA hates the idea of nations with state ownership of the economy (why else the trade ban with Cuba and the conflict with Venezuala?) and the Republican party is becoming a vehicle for a Christian crusade against secular society worldwide. What defined Iraq as it was and what it has become, is the loss of state ownership of assets and the religious identity driven culture war politics - which re-makes Iraq in the image of the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul L </p>
<p>SPC: “Hate of a secular socialist regime.” Is that how we describe Saddam Hussein these days? Seems a bit of revisionism going on there.</p>
<p>What is there to understand? </p>
<p>The capitalist USA hates the idea of nations with state ownership of the economy (why else the trade ban with Cuba and the conflict with Venezuala?) and the Republican party is becoming a vehicle for a Christian crusade against secular society worldwide. What defined Iraq as it was and what it has become, is the loss of state ownership of assets and the religious identity driven culture war politics &#8211; which re-makes Iraq in the image of the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: sonic</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/mccain_wins_florida.html#comment-401865</link>
		<dc:creator>sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your the one that started adding figures together KIA, I was just pointing out the flaws in your logic.

It&#039;s almost as funny as your assertion that viilent crime in the USA is lower than NZ, as long as you don&#039;t count murder as a violent crime!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your the one that started adding figures together KIA, I was just pointing out the flaws in your logic.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost as funny as your assertion that viilent crime in the USA is lower than NZ, as long as you don&#8217;t count murder as a violent crime!</p>
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		<title>By: kiwi in america</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/mccain_wins_florida.html#comment-401841</link>
		<dc:creator>kiwi in america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You dont need a majority to win a primary Sonic - they are FPP. Not all Guiliani&#039;s supporters want or like McCain in fact exit polls in FL showed Romney is their second preference and also Huckabee&#039;s supporters 2nd preference.

So far the Rasmussen (most accurate poll over time) head to head as McCain 47 - Hillary 40 and Obama 41 so it will take a bit of luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You dont need a majority to win a primary Sonic &#8211; they are FPP. Not all Guiliani&#8217;s supporters want or like McCain in fact exit polls in FL showed Romney is their second preference and also Huckabee&#8217;s supporters 2nd preference.</p>
<p>So far the Rasmussen (most accurate poll over time) head to head as McCain 47 &#8211; Hillary 40 and Obama 41 so it will take a bit of luck.</p>
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		<title>By: sonic</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/mccain_wins_florida.html#comment-401785</link>
		<dc:creator>sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice logic KIA, although you may note that 42% is not a majority!

McCain is still going to be the nominee though (especially if he gets Gulliani&#039;s) endorsement.

Then with a bit of luck he&#039;ll lose!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice logic KIA, although you may note that 42% is not a majority!</p>
<p>McCain is still going to be the nominee though (especially if he gets Gulliani&#8217;s) endorsement.</p>
<p>Then with a bit of luck he&#8217;ll lose!</p>
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		<title>By: kiwi in america</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/mccain_wins_florida.html#comment-401765</link>
		<dc:creator>kiwi in america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not mine-its Reagan&#039;s. If you add Huckabee&#039;s 12% (mostly Evangelicals) to Romney&#039;s 30% that easily beats McCains 35% so I wouldn&#039;t call that a rejection Sonic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not mine-its Reagan&#8217;s. If you add Huckabee&#8217;s 12% (mostly Evangelicals) to Romney&#8217;s 30% that easily beats McCains 35% so I wouldn&#8217;t call that a rejection Sonic</p>
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		<title>By: sonic</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/mccain_wins_florida.html#comment-401756</link>
		<dc:creator>sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Must burn you KIA seeing even the Republican party faithful reject your brand of conservatism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Must burn you KIA seeing even the Republican party faithful reject your brand of conservatism.</p>
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		<title>By: kiwi in america</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/mccain_wins_florida.html#comment-401752</link>
		<dc:creator>kiwi in america</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sonic
Of course its all love and roses between Obama and Billary - the MSM always love a &#039;Repubs self destructing&#039; theme when they only have to glance to their own side to see a juicy battle where the old hoary chesnuts of race, gender and age well represented. I can assure you Republicans are not self destructing.

McCain is a problematical person for Reagan Republicans because he has fought the party on so many occasions (anti the Bush tax cuts, sided with Dems to limit Bush&#039;s appellate court nominees, sponsored campaign finance reform seen to benefit the left more, and sided with uber-liberal Kennedy on pro-amensty immigration law) and he does so with arrogance and nastiness. People like me had hoped that Romney was close enough to Reagan&#039;s mix of social/fiscal/foreign policy conservatism. Its not over yet - most of the Super Tuesday races are not winner take all. Rommey won many of the key conservative demographs in FL and was only beaten at the 11th hour by the Crist endorsement and a nasty distortion of his comments by McCain that dominated the news cycle going into the primary. Until then, the RCP average of polls had Romney up by almost 2%.

Romney has far more money and on-the-ground support than McCain going into Super Tuesday so, whilst McCain has momentum, media publicity and endorsements, I would not give up on Romney just yet but undoubtedly the momentum favours McCain.

I see Fred as a more likely running mate than Huckabee or Guiliani and if McCain prevails, the bad blood between him and Romney means a VP slot is unlikely. Romney will go and serve another mission for his church is my bet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sonic<br />
Of course its all love and roses between Obama and Billary &#8211; the MSM always love a &#8216;Repubs self destructing&#8217; theme when they only have to glance to their own side to see a juicy battle where the old hoary chesnuts of race, gender and age well represented. I can assure you Republicans are not self destructing.</p>
<p>McCain is a problematical person for Reagan Republicans because he has fought the party on so many occasions (anti the Bush tax cuts, sided with Dems to limit Bush&#8217;s appellate court nominees, sponsored campaign finance reform seen to benefit the left more, and sided with uber-liberal Kennedy on pro-amensty immigration law) and he does so with arrogance and nastiness. People like me had hoped that Romney was close enough to Reagan&#8217;s mix of social/fiscal/foreign policy conservatism. Its not over yet &#8211; most of the Super Tuesday races are not winner take all. Rommey won many of the key conservative demographs in FL and was only beaten at the 11th hour by the Crist endorsement and a nasty distortion of his comments by McCain that dominated the news cycle going into the primary. Until then, the RCP average of polls had Romney up by almost 2%.</p>
<p>Romney has far more money and on-the-ground support than McCain going into Super Tuesday so, whilst McCain has momentum, media publicity and endorsements, I would not give up on Romney just yet but undoubtedly the momentum favours McCain.</p>
<p>I see Fred as a more likely running mate than Huckabee or Guiliani and if McCain prevails, the bad blood between him and Romney means a VP slot is unlikely. Romney will go and serve another mission for his church is my bet.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guiliani has pulled out so looks like it will be McCain. I was there when he tried out for 2000 and he was pretty much a big Yaaaaawwwwwnnn.

Oh well at least there&#039;s still a bit of interest in following the democrats. Were&#039;s Arnie when you need him eh?

BTW anyone misguided enough to think that the US left is anything like the NZ or European left (ie Anti-American) needs some serious therapy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guiliani has pulled out so looks like it will be McCain. I was there when he tried out for 2000 and he was pretty much a big Yaaaaawwwwwnnn.</p>
<p>Oh well at least there&#8217;s still a bit of interest in following the democrats. Were&#8217;s Arnie when you need him eh?</p>
<p>BTW anyone misguided enough to think that the US left is anything like the NZ or European left (ie Anti-American) needs some serious therapy.</p>
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		<title>By: NX</title>
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		<dc:creator>NX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Conservatives of a nervous disposition&lt;/blockquote&gt;

^ That could describe a leftie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Conservatives of a nervous disposition</p></blockquote>
<p>^ That could describe a leftie.</p>
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		<title>By: sonic</title>
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		<dc:creator>sonic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those lefties needing a chuckle, this thread is a lovely example of how the Republican party is tearing itself apart

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/d41a6e95-71f3-4d41-8f27-af3cc3aaa7cb&amp;comments=true#commentAnchor

I&#039;d advise Conservatives of a nervous disposition to not click the link!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those lefties needing a chuckle, this thread is a lovely example of how the Republican party is tearing itself apart</p>
<p><a href="http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/d41a6e95-71f3-4d41-8f27-af3cc3aaa7cb&#038;comments=true#commentAnchor" rel="nofollow">http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/d41a6e95-71f3-4d41-8f27-af3cc3aaa7cb&#038;comments=true#commentAnchor</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d advise Conservatives of a nervous disposition to not click the link!</p>
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		<title>By: NX</title>
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		<dc:creator>NX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GNZ wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Guliani is a disaster - it would be like picking Mark Latham&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re comparing the crime fighting, tax cutting, former U.S. attorney general, who is often dubbed &#039;America&#039;s Mayor&#039; for his leadership during 9/11... with that angry twat from Australia; Latham.  You&#039;re entitled to your opinion, but some perspective is needed!

emmess wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Although I think a great choice for Veep would be Condaleeza Rice&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Agreed.  My dream ticket would&#039;ve been Giuliani/Rice.  But now that&#039;s a pipe dream, I really like the sound of a Obama/Bloomberg ticket (if Bloomberg doesn&#039;t run for President).  According to Wikipedia Bloomberg talked with Obama in November.

Redbaiter wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;If I was pressed to choose one as a possible POTUS, it would be Duncan Hunter.
I might admire some of them on a personal level (Bill English in NZ for example)
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m relieved that there are some politicians you can stomach (Duncan Hunter &amp; Bill English).  Your answer also indicated you&#039;ve libertarian leanings i.e. questioning why we even need politicians.  No offence, but it&#039;s sometimes hard to no where your stance given the cynicism in many of your posts.

Since I posted the question my favourite politicians are:

Dr Brash, Giuliani, John Key, &amp; Tony Blair

Notable mention goes to:

Condoleezza Rice, David Cameron &amp; John Howard


Everyone else &lt;b&gt;Who are your favourite politicians from the recent past and present?&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GNZ wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Guliani is a disaster &#8211; it would be like picking Mark Latham</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re comparing the crime fighting, tax cutting, former U.S. attorney general, who is often dubbed &#8216;America&#8217;s Mayor&#8217; for his leadership during 9/11&#8230; with that angry twat from Australia; Latham.  You&#8217;re entitled to your opinion, but some perspective is needed!</p>
<p>emmess wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>Although I think a great choice for Veep would be Condaleeza Rice</p></blockquote>
<p>Agreed.  My dream ticket would&#8217;ve been Giuliani/Rice.  But now that&#8217;s a pipe dream, I really like the sound of a Obama/Bloomberg ticket (if Bloomberg doesn&#8217;t run for President).  According to Wikipedia Bloomberg talked with Obama in November.</p>
<p>Redbaiter wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>If I was pressed to choose one as a possible POTUS, it would be Duncan Hunter.<br />
I might admire some of them on a personal level (Bill English in NZ for example)
</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m relieved that there are some politicians you can stomach (Duncan Hunter &amp; Bill English).  Your answer also indicated you&#8217;ve libertarian leanings i.e. questioning why we even need politicians.  No offence, but it&#8217;s sometimes hard to no where your stance given the cynicism in many of your posts.</p>
<p>Since I posted the question my favourite politicians are:</p>
<p>Dr Brash, Giuliani, John Key, &amp; Tony Blair</p>
<p>Notable mention goes to:</p>
<p>Condoleezza Rice, David Cameron &amp; John Howard</p>
<p>Everyone else <b>Who are your favourite politicians from the recent past and present?</b></p>
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		<title>By: PaulL</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SPC: &quot;Hate of a secular socialist regime.&quot;  Is that how we describe Saddam Hussein these days?  Seems a bit of revisionism going on there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SPC: &#8220;Hate of a secular socialist regime.&#8221;  Is that how we describe Saddam Hussein these days?  Seems a bit of revisionism going on there.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Ranapia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Ranapia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Choosing Condaleeza Rice as VP would send the message that women and blacks belong in a subordinate position.

Pete: Using that truly bizarre logic, it would slightly less &quot;insulting&quot; than being Secretary of State, and much less so than a sub-Cabinet position like National Security Advisor.  To be honest, I don&#039;t think its her gender or race that makes her truly unaccptable to the theo-con base.  As far as I can tell, she&#039;s far too moderate and doesn&#039;t have the right networks to truly be &#039;one of us&#039;.

I believe they endorsed him :-)

And what a truly bizarre piece of work it was - the NYTimes also endorsed Clinton, and I don&#039;t see why they didn&#039;t both ask the paper to withdraw them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Choosing Condaleeza Rice as VP would send the message that women and blacks belong in a subordinate position.</p>
<p>Pete: Using that truly bizarre logic, it would slightly less &#8220;insulting&#8221; than being Secretary of State, and much less so than a sub-Cabinet position like National Security Advisor.  To be honest, I don&#8217;t think its her gender or race that makes her truly unaccptable to the theo-con base.  As far as I can tell, she&#8217;s far too moderate and doesn&#8217;t have the right networks to truly be &#8216;one of us&#8217;.</p>
<p>I believe they endorsed him <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And what a truly bizarre piece of work it was &#8211; the NYTimes also endorsed Clinton, and I don&#8217;t see why they didn&#8217;t both ask the paper to withdraw them.</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry everybody, it&#039;s getting a bit off topic, SPC happy to take it offline: email me at reid@infoworks.co.nz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry everybody, it&#8217;s getting a bit off topic, SPC happy to take it offline: email me at <a href="mailto:reid@infoworks.co.nz">reid@infoworks.co.nz</a></p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neocons are idealogues. They had just come into power. They had an agenda. They executed it. We are witnessing the result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neocons are idealogues. They had just come into power. They had an agenda. They executed it. We are witnessing the result.</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So what? Do you think the neocons gave a shit?</description>
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		<title>By: SPC</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/mccain_wins_florida.html#comment-401550</link>
		<dc:creator>SPC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most American Jews opposed any action in Iraq.</description>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israeli security SPC?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Israeli security SPC?</p>
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		<title>By: reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry just to clarify, he had 130 odd people presented for clemency, he only pardoned one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry just to clarify, he had 130 odd people presented for clemency, he only pardoned one.</p>
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