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		<title>By: natural party of govt</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-402157</link>
		<dc:creator>natural party of govt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;[DPF: What I find funny is you think I would allow you to carry on posting here, after you wrote that]&quot;

Ahh but I know you don&#039;t check kiwiblogblog - you have often told us that.
Besides if you really took offence it would suggest you are far more insecure than I took you for.

Lets be honest, if that is the best you have to play the victim over you have nothing to complain of.


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Peak Oil Conspiracy Says: 

January 31st, 2008 at 6:29 am 
NPOG:

Well I thought it was funny. 

Of course - it was your comment after all. Here’s an idea: how about posting your name and sufficient identifying details? That way DPF can set up a thread, and can research your life then post jokes about you. What do you say, NPOG, are you up to it?&quot;

If I was likely to gain lots of patronage and income from a National Party victory I would be.

But as whoever wins in NZ politics it has no financial benefit for me, I don&#039;t see any incentives for me.

Although if anyone wants to suggest that I am romantically involved with that svelte sex machine, Whale Oil, although the public humiliation would be deep I believe I could survive the exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;[DPF: What I find funny is you think I would allow you to carry on posting here, after you wrote that]&#8221;</p>
<p>Ahh but I know you don&#8217;t check kiwiblogblog &#8211; you have often told us that.<br />
Besides if you really took offence it would suggest you are far more insecure than I took you for.</p>
<p>Lets be honest, if that is the best you have to play the victim over you have nothing to complain of.</p>
<p>&#8221;<br />
Peak Oil Conspiracy Says: </p>
<p>January 31st, 2008 at 6:29 am<br />
NPOG:</p>
<p>Well I thought it was funny. </p>
<p>Of course &#8211; it was your comment after all. Here’s an idea: how about posting your name and sufficient identifying details? That way DPF can set up a thread, and can research your life then post jokes about you. What do you say, NPOG, are you up to it?&#8221;</p>
<p>If I was likely to gain lots of patronage and income from a National Party victory I would be.</p>
<p>But as whoever wins in NZ politics it has no financial benefit for me, I don&#8217;t see any incentives for me.</p>
<p>Although if anyone wants to suggest that I am romantically involved with that svelte sex machine, Whale Oil, although the public humiliation would be deep I believe I could survive the exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-402038</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gee john..!

that&#039;s even harder than i was on &#039;blubby&#039;./whaleoil..

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gee john..!</p>
<p>that&#8217;s even harder than i was on &#8216;blubby&#8217;./whaleoil..</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: PhilBest</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-402007</link>
		<dc:creator>PhilBest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree, Farrar. You err on the far too mild, far too wishy-washy on the real principles, side, when it comes to the REAL &quot;right wing&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree, Farrar. You err on the far too mild, far too wishy-washy on the real principles, side, when it comes to the REAL &#8220;right wing&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401937</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its all right Mr Farrar , checked out his blogg , you are safe , its the thoughts of a moron,.  :(  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its all right Mr Farrar , checked out his blogg , you are safe , its the thoughts of a moron,.  <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401826</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no ratbiter..you come here for yr comfort..to be with like-minded people..

me..i don&#039;t go near left blogs because i have no desire to nod along in agreement..

i come to these hives of ratbag rightery..t educate you..

it&#039;s a &#039;public service&#039; i am engaged in..

(you&#039;re welcome..!..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no ratbiter..you come here for yr comfort..to be with like-minded people..</p>
<p>me..i don&#8217;t go near left blogs because i have no desire to nod along in agreement..</p>
<p>i come to these hives of ratbag rightery..t educate you..</p>
<p>it&#8217;s a &#8216;public service&#8217; i am engaged in..</p>
<p>(you&#8217;re welcome..!..)</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Redbaiter</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401812</link>
		<dc:creator>Redbaiter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pfft.. what a load of drivel.. The left, (including IS) have merely got their nickers in a twist because at long last they are facing real opposition. ..and they cannot deal with it.

I&#039;ve got a solution for the posters writing here that they don&#039;t like what is written on Kiwiblog. 

Don&#039;t read it.

GD above says he only reads the comments of posters with real (how does he know) names. Well hell, if that is so, what the hell is he complaining about??? More should follow his pattern, and then they can all spare us the fucking endless whining. 

Nobody is forced to read Kiwiblog. People come here totally voluntarily, and if they don&#039;t like what they read here they go away. Just as I stay away from most of the leftist blogs. Like who needs that tired old commie academic staffroom drivel, the back slapping and the discussions over whether tax rates are acceptable at 98% or 99%. Yawn. Fucken ivory tower academic troglodytes. ..and I don&#039;t waste my time writing there complaining about content. I just stay away.

Kiwiblog is successful because its different. Its different because it isn&#039;t dominated by tired old leftist academics in slippers and cardigans droning on with the same old same old decaying leftist arguments. There life here. Real blood flowing thru real veins.

Complain all you want commies. Your period of social and political domination is slowly but surely coming to its inevitable sad end. Its over. Baby baby baby, you&#039;re out of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pfft.. what a load of drivel.. The left, (including IS) have merely got their nickers in a twist because at long last they are facing real opposition. ..and they cannot deal with it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got a solution for the posters writing here that they don&#8217;t like what is written on Kiwiblog. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t read it.</p>
<p>GD above says he only reads the comments of posters with real (how does he know) names. Well hell, if that is so, what the hell is he complaining about??? More should follow his pattern, and then they can all spare us the fucking endless whining. </p>
<p>Nobody is forced to read Kiwiblog. People come here totally voluntarily, and if they don&#8217;t like what they read here they go away. Just as I stay away from most of the leftist blogs. Like who needs that tired old commie academic staffroom drivel, the back slapping and the discussions over whether tax rates are acceptable at 98% or 99%. Yawn. Fucken ivory tower academic troglodytes. ..and I don&#8217;t waste my time writing there complaining about content. I just stay away.</p>
<p>Kiwiblog is successful because its different. Its different because it isn&#8217;t dominated by tired old leftist academics in slippers and cardigans droning on with the same old same old decaying leftist arguments. There life here. Real blood flowing thru real veins.</p>
<p>Complain all you want commies. Your period of social and political domination is slowly but surely coming to its inevitable sad end. Its over. Baby baby baby, you&#8217;re out of time.</p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401798</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um..!..your punctuation..?..david..?

...and what are those ...&#039;s all about..?

eh..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um..!..your punctuation..?..david..?</p>
<p>&#8230;and what are those &#8230;&#8217;s all about..?</p>
<p>eh..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401796</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good, Pascal :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good, Pascal <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401795</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oops .... &quot;can&#039;t&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oops &#8230;. &#8220;can&#8217;t&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401792</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FFS phil,  if you cand get the punctuation right (sorry, .... correct) at least get a dictionary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FFS phil,  if you cand get the punctuation right (sorry, &#8230;. correct) at least get a dictionary.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401788</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deborah: &lt;i&gt;Pots, kettles and black, on all sides&lt;/i&gt;

Disgusting isn&#039;t it? Wait. Are you a lefty? In which case I can&#039;t trust that comment ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deborah: <i>Pots, kettles and black, on all sides</i></p>
<p>Disgusting isn&#8217;t it? Wait. Are you a lefty? In which case I can&#8217;t trust that comment <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: philu</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401783</link>
		<dc:creator>philu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it&#039;s the compant you keep/encourage..dpf..

i mean..you resolutely &#039;pimp&#039; for one of the worst offfenders..whaleoil..

(known to us as &#039;blubby&#039;..)

how can you expect not to be tarnished by your (apparant) endorsement of their vile/racist/reactionary drivel..?

methinks you doth protesteth too much..mr farrar..

or is it a uriah heepish handwringing you are engaged in..?

phil(whoar.co.nz)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s the compant you keep/encourage..dpf..</p>
<p>i mean..you resolutely &#8216;pimp&#8217; for one of the worst offfenders..whaleoil..</p>
<p>(known to us as &#8216;blubby&#8217;..)</p>
<p>how can you expect not to be tarnished by your (apparant) endorsement of their vile/racist/reactionary drivel..?</p>
<p>methinks you doth protesteth too much..mr farrar..</p>
<p>or is it a uriah heepish handwringing you are engaged in..?</p>
<p>phil(whoar.co.nz)</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401781</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But because I hold to a right wing viewpoint I/S has now by implication associated me and a number of other posters with whatever mental images people conjure when they hear such a time.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes.

And exactly how does that treatment differs from this sort of comment?

&lt;blockquote&gt;lefties always smear and lie.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Pots, kettles and black, on all sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But because I hold to a right wing viewpoint I/S has now by implication associated me and a number of other posters with whatever mental images people conjure when they hear such a time.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p>And exactly how does that treatment differs from this sort of comment?</p>
<blockquote><p>lefties always smear and lie.</p></blockquote>
<p>Pots, kettles and black, on all sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401758</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>georgedarroch: &lt;i&gt;In his words, he didn’t want his blog becoming part of the “sewer”, and the intensive moderation that would have been required was too great a drain on the time of someone who has things to do IRL.&lt;/i&gt;

Odd though that people (I/S included) denigrate DPF for not doing the intensive moderation that is such a great drain on the time of someone who has things to do IRL. 

Those of us interested in rational debate, and yes that includes the strong viewpoints of both Redbaiter and Tane, appreciate the fact that he allows any and all to make their points in whichever way they choose. It&#039;s up to the reader to determine what is dross and what is not. 

For example, D4J has made several good arguments when he was not taunted. However, Roger Nome frequently succumbs to the temptation to torment D4J with all forms of vile accusations, implications and comments about his kids. Yet - people look at D4J as the nutjob, not at the people who taunt the bear in his cage with sticks.

Of course ... there are days when it&#039;s wiser to just skip over the Klarke and other slurs that emmanate from Christchurch ;) 

I consider myself to be a reasonably rational commentator and try to stay away from the whole sewage aspect of the debate even though there are people who&#039;s dishonesty I loathe. Don&#039;t always succeed though. But because I hold to a right wing viewpoint I/S has now by implication associated me and a number of other posters with whatever mental images people conjure when they hear such a time. 

It&#039;s not a very nice thing to do. He can keep on trying to justify it - or he can man up and apologize. Either way, it reflects more on him than it does on Kiwiblog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>georgedarroch: <i>In his words, he didn’t want his blog becoming part of the “sewer”, and the intensive moderation that would have been required was too great a drain on the time of someone who has things to do IRL.</i></p>
<p>Odd though that people (I/S included) denigrate DPF for not doing the intensive moderation that is such a great drain on the time of someone who has things to do IRL. </p>
<p>Those of us interested in rational debate, and yes that includes the strong viewpoints of both Redbaiter and Tane, appreciate the fact that he allows any and all to make their points in whichever way they choose. It&#8217;s up to the reader to determine what is dross and what is not. </p>
<p>For example, D4J has made several good arguments when he was not taunted. However, Roger Nome frequently succumbs to the temptation to torment D4J with all forms of vile accusations, implications and comments about his kids. Yet &#8211; people look at D4J as the nutjob, not at the people who taunt the bear in his cage with sticks.</p>
<p>Of course &#8230; there are days when it&#8217;s wiser to just skip over the Klarke and other slurs that emmanate from Christchurch <img src='http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I consider myself to be a reasonably rational commentator and try to stay away from the whole sewage aspect of the debate even though there are people who&#8217;s dishonesty I loathe. Don&#8217;t always succeed though. But because I hold to a right wing viewpoint I/S has now by implication associated me and a number of other posters with whatever mental images people conjure when they hear such a time. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a very nice thing to do. He can keep on trying to justify it &#8211; or he can man up and apologize. Either way, it reflects more on him than it does on Kiwiblog.</p>
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		<title>By: georgedarroch</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401749</link>
		<dc:creator>georgedarroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I/S shut down comments reluctantly, and with regret. It was becoming clear that his comments threads were slowly but surely becoming filled with the same kind of malicious abusive gutter commentary that predominates here, and pushing away regular commenters. In his words, he didn&#039;t want his blog becoming part of the &quot;sewer&quot;, and the intensive moderation that would have been required was too great a drain on the time of someone who has things to do IRL.

NRT was a great place to have intelligent conversations with people from across the political spectrum - the typical response here is that he can&#039;t handle free speech, but the reality was that he&#039;d debate anyone (who stated themselves intelligently and didn&#039;t resort to abuse). I&#039;m as angry as anyone that his comments threads are gone, but I lay the blame squarely at the commenters here. 

And with that, like Finn Higgins, I leave again.

(ps, I have a tip for anyone seeking vaguely rational debate - I only read the comments of those who post under their real name. It vastly increases the signal/noise ratio)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I/S shut down comments reluctantly, and with regret. It was becoming clear that his comments threads were slowly but surely becoming filled with the same kind of malicious abusive gutter commentary that predominates here, and pushing away regular commenters. In his words, he didn&#8217;t want his blog becoming part of the &#8220;sewer&#8221;, and the intensive moderation that would have been required was too great a drain on the time of someone who has things to do IRL.</p>
<p>NRT was a great place to have intelligent conversations with people from across the political spectrum &#8211; the typical response here is that he can&#8217;t handle free speech, but the reality was that he&#8217;d debate anyone (who stated themselves intelligently and didn&#8217;t resort to abuse). I&#8217;m as angry as anyone that his comments threads are gone, but I lay the blame squarely at the commenters here. </p>
<p>And with that, like Finn Higgins, I leave again.</p>
<p>(ps, I have a tip for anyone seeking vaguely rational debate &#8211; I only read the comments of those who post under their real name. It vastly increases the signal/noise ratio)</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401717</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a true follower of EFA he doesn&#039;t allow comments. I&#039;ve made mine on Tony&#039;s &quot;I See Red&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a true follower of EFA he doesn&#8217;t allow comments. I&#8217;ve made mine on Tony&#8217;s &#8220;I See Red&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: NeilM</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401697</link>
		<dc:creator>NeilM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From NRT - 

&quot;Having whipped up the hate and established an environment which has encouraged this sort of lunacy, it&#039;s a bit rich of DPF to try and disclaim any responsibility now.&quot;

&quot;Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. If DPF doesn&#039;t like his blog becoming a byword for a particularly odious strand of political extremism, then he has a simple option available: clean up his community. But if he continues to support and encourage such extremism, he can hardly complain when it begins to reflect badly on him.&quot;

NRT&#039;s favourie trick is to imagine that all his opponents are of a simliar nature to someone like d4j. Then follows a tiade of abuse towards these imagined foes. It&#039;s a rather shallow form of political discourse. 

A more intersting approach for NRT would be to engage not with d4j but with the larger number of people he may not agree with but who might disagree for good reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From NRT &#8211; </p>
<p>&#8220;Having whipped up the hate and established an environment which has encouraged this sort of lunacy, it&#8217;s a bit rich of DPF to try and disclaim any responsibility now.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. If DPF doesn&#8217;t like his blog becoming a byword for a particularly odious strand of political extremism, then he has a simple option available: clean up his community. But if he continues to support and encourage such extremism, he can hardly complain when it begins to reflect badly on him.&#8221;</p>
<p>NRT&#8217;s favourie trick is to imagine that all his opponents are of a simliar nature to someone like d4j. Then follows a tiade of abuse towards these imagined foes. It&#8217;s a rather shallow form of political discourse. </p>
<p>A more intersting approach for NRT would be to engage not with d4j but with the larger number of people he may not agree with but who might disagree for good reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401686</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idiot has always been an idiot - lefties always smear and lie.

It&#039;s a fact of nature - village idiots have no choice.

But it&#039;s good fun to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idiot has always been an idiot &#8211; lefties always smear and lie.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a fact of nature &#8211; village idiots have no choice.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s good fun to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Pacific Empire</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401685</link>
		<dc:creator>Pacific Empire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Idiot/Savant has lost all credibility as he goes from &lt;a href=&quot;http://pacificempire.org.nz/2008/01/29/the-left-vs-free-speech/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;outright hypocrisy&lt;/a&gt; to contemptible smears. Of course, the process started way back when he painted opponents of the anti-smacking bill as supporters of child abuse. A pity really, I used to enjoy what I thought were I/S&#039;s principled defenses of human rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idiot/Savant has lost all credibility as he goes from <a href="http://pacificempire.org.nz/2008/01/29/the-left-vs-free-speech/" rel="nofollow">outright hypocrisy</a> to contemptible smears. Of course, the process started way back when he painted opponents of the anti-smacking bill as supporters of child abuse. A pity really, I used to enjoy what I thought were I/S&#8217;s principled defenses of human rights.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Klake</title>
		<link>http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/no_right_turn_decides_to_smear.html#comment-401668</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms Klake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 20:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops I should have read NRT&#039;s clarification first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops I should have read NRT&#8217;s clarification first.</p>
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