Good way to waste an hour or so on a tuesday night.

Well, I have remained civil and courteous, and you haven’t always responded in kind….

[DPF: In fact Roger Gnome often acts very offensively towards people, when they have not done the same to him. The suggestion that he is only a jerk in response is quite false]

I am shocked, I am truly shocked. Someone should do something about it.

Get me another beer will you.

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“I do not regard National as always right, but it is the party which I believe gives me the greatest opportunity to achieve the New Zealand I want.”

I’d say the folks at The Standard arguably embrace the same approach, especially in light of posts like this one by IrishBill:

“This is a fuckin’ disgrace.

The fact that we’re eight years into a Labour government (which, by the way, was founded by Kiwi workers) and yet the law still allows for this sort of shit to happen is a sad indictment of how far right our political spectrum has swung – sure Labour has undone some of the damage National did with the Employment Contracts Act in ‘91 but we’re now heading into an election that could see the Tories back in power and the first thing they will do is attack Kiwi workers some more – and it’s gonna be easier for them this time because Labour has done so little to secure our work rights.”

And just to demonstrate that I’m not taking it out of context:

“So that’s the main party choice this year – you can vote Labour for low wages and poor working conditions or you can vote National and see it all get even worse. Kinda makes all this talk from both parties about supporting families seem a bit hollow really.

It is worth noting that nearly every piece of legislation protecting New Zealand workers, while supported by Labour, has actually been driven by the Alliance and the Greens. As the Alliance no longer exists I’d suggest voting Green is the best way to truly support Kiwi families – after all one of the most important elements to having a decent life is having a decent job.”

So as I said above, they should definitely have disclosed their hosting and rectified it as soon as possible, but I don’t believe they’re bootlickers for the Labour party by any means. Perhaps some charity is due.

I’m by no means the Standard’s biggest fan, but this really is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

[DPF: You may be new here, but if you go to the top of the page and look for the prominent disclosure statement, you'll see I have probably the most detailed and explicit disclosure regime of any blogger. The issue (for me anyway) is about disclosure. The irony of course is the more I disclose the more the fanatics jump up and down and try and use that against me. And without exception, none of them even disclosing their real name. So yes it is a case of pot and kettle - for them]

lawl

We have moved from a first world country to a third world country under the directorship of Helen Clark and Heather Simpson, and have slipped faster down the OECD rankings than a Dole Bludger lining up for an extra benefit.
I wonder how Winston and the Greens now feel after supporting this Bill through the House, and seeing Labour use these less than Honest Tatics t otry and get across there very warped point of view.They must be embarrassed.

Yes, but you are selectively quoting people again to make your dishonest little points you odious weasel. The original post said:

“supporting legislation that requires people to publish their full name and residential address to express political opinions”

There are many means of expressing political opinion Sonic. Not all of them are leaflets. You really are a sad little troll when you have to twist people’s words to try and make your points.

I have a dead horse that needs to be flogged and you seem like just the man to do it!

Can you contact me on the usual address?

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Lee C, please let us know if you’re fobbed off, or actually receive a substantive reply.

From: Lee Clark

(please contact me by email for my home address)

I am concerned that I recently read, in the following source:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/01/the_standard_hosted_by_the_labour_party.html

http://www.thestandard.org.nz is hosted on a server at 202.74.226.119

A WHOIS on that IP address gives us:

inetnum: 202.74.226.112 – 202.74.226.127
netname: LABOURPARTY1-2DAY-NZ
descr: New Zealand Labour Party
country: NZ

Under the Electoral Finance Act, 2007 (EFA), Can you advise me please whether The Standard Blog constitutes a:

commercial blog;

a Labour Party election expense;

a breach of the EFA because it fails to disclose who runs it, or provide an address?

Am I correct in assuming that if it is a non-commercial blog, it is exempt from any disclosure under the EFA, but if there is a proven link between it and the Labour party (ie it was paid for, or authorised by The NZLP) then it should be declared as an election expense? If so, under what conditions, if any would it presently be in contravention of the EFA?

If it is in contravention of the EFA at present, would you please advise me what conditions it must meet in order to comply?

If I wished to make a complaint about the blog under the Electoral Finance Act, can you advise me what aspects of the Act that The Standard, were it to be proven to be a Labour Party communication, I should be considering?

There is another aspect I wish to ask you about, if i may. If The Standard blog is hosted or run by members of a particular union, or the Labour Party, and this was done without the knowledge of their employers, would the EFA require that some form of disclosure from the employer be produced to clarify that they were unaware of such activities, should a complaint be made?

Regards,

Lee Clark

http://monkeyswithtypewriter.blogspot.com/

Crux. Something has happened.
The credibility of those at the standard, and by association those at KBB and that other sleepy site, has climbed into a bathysphere and sunk to depths that render their opinions and postings absolutely worthless.
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Actually I already knew that even without this fiasco happening…