Fair ’nuff, I didn’t digest that part. Note the time of posting. However, the point made in my second post is still valid – that the ration of quitters to returners hasn’t changed significantly in over 30 years. Two Kiwis leave, one returns. The growth of the numbers going each way is more likely due to the affordability of foreign adventuring, rather than the supposed malevolence of the Clark government.

I could claim the increase in figures demonstrates that kiwis are better off under labour and hence more mobile – but that would be specious, just like suggesting that Labour is driving people out of the country.

The real pity is that NZ was once such a great little country. ..and its all gone. For what?? So a collection of knuckle dragging power crazed dumbfuck socialists can live out their irrational utopian delusion.

I’m not sure I’d describe Mr Meurant as a conservative, even if he did establish a Conservative Party.

He merely adopted a label, rather like the current Labour Party leadership none of whom are what we might call working class people.

Mr Meurant’s political views were not sufficiently coherent or rational to be called conservative.

“Liberal” just does not mean tolerant of any damn thing, otherwise the same people who are cheering for the Hollywood pornographers etc would be cheering for pedophilia. They’re not thankfully, proof in itself that even the self described social liberals recognise that tolerance is not an open ended concept.

“Areas which vote to have high taxes will be residually inhabited mainly by dummies: by people who vote to have tax money spent on themselves, without actually earning enough money to be taxed.”

And then there’s dear old David Warren:

“The intention of such governments is not to run the economy into the ground, nor even to destroy the moral order through experiments in social engineering. That is simply the natural consequence of their way of doing business.”

Of course both names have been used before (by Ross Meurant and Gilbery Myles respectively) but there’s no reason they can’t be revived. The difficulty would be convincing National to pack up the tent

But really, the existence of a “broad church” right (and left, for that matter) party under MMP is really an anachronism.

I appreciate the fact that you’re prepared to have a go your self mate. Those leftists hyenas are no big deal really, just pack hunting cowards who can’t do anything other than bay and snarl and crawl on their belly to their leader.

As for the issue of (so called) liberalism, one only needs to see how the words and ideas of (so called) right wingers like Cwaigy are so gratefully used by the left, who enthusiastically embrace such politically confused dimwits and encourage them to go on with their act.

One can then understand the reality that such notions only provide the social beachheads the left requires in order to begin the task of imposing totalitarian and tyrannical rule upon the rest of us.

These self described “liberals” their political ignorance promote promiscuity, gutter language, ill manners and disrespect in the mistaken idea that such attitudes are an integral part of the modern liberal social construct.

The truth is that as society disintegrates in the expected reaction to such events, real liberty is moving further and further from our grasp. I used to think they would one day understand this, but I’m beginning to think the lack of education combined with the gradual dumbing down of the nations overall intellectual status as the wise ones quit the country, might mean that NZ’s fate is already sealed.

In fact, there’s plenty of global precedents for such social destruction. All engineered by the same political sector, namely the fucked in the head half educated uncivilized power seeking left.

They love the scenerio you have outlined as they are getting Labour voters in and conservative voters out.

Labour don’t care about destroying 150 years of NZ’s cultural heritage

http://kiwiblogblog.wordpress.com/2008/02/05/farrar-reveals-his-racism/#comment-6424

http://nzdebate.blogspot.com/2008/02/please-join-them.html

Oh, and media reports of projected house price slump in the UK of around 30-35% this year. Fingers crossed this knock on of the credit crunch will hit NZ in about 6 months or less. May be some homesick kiwis heading home to take up on the opportunity when that occurs

Focus on the topic not your hobby horse or you’ll just piss off potential allies.

People like to move around, always have, always will. I spent 3 years living in the UK but I have been back now for 10 years and lots of my friends have done the same. I really don’t understand why we beat ourselves up about this.

We have Waitangi day…. yea right… lots of moaning, violence, protesting and being told how wicked and horrible we are for colonizing and terrorizing to indigenous people.
Whatever the truths, lies or otherwise it might help if there was a least some day there wasn’t this bloody sour mood hanging over us.

I would imagine this would have been a smooth trend otherwise- NZ wages have been deliberately kept low while the strong unions in Aussie have improved pay and conditions year on year.

Housing is another aspect to this- house prices have skyrocketed here due to lots of eezy credit flooding NZ thanks to our un-regulated foreign-owned banking system…