Comments on: Gallery soft on Winston http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html DPF's Kiwiblog - Fomenting Happy Mischief since 2003 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 19:45:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ghostwhowalksnz http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413619 Ghostwhowalksnz Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:20:40 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413619 D4J history wasnt your best suit ( even after the horse bit a piece of it) Don Brash resigns as Leader of national on a Thursday, The Hollow Man released to book shops on the Friday D4J history wasnt your best suit ( even after the horse bit a piece of it)
Don Brash resigns as Leader of national on a Thursday, The Hollow Man released to book shops on the Friday

]]> By: side show bob http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413611 side show bob Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:00:57 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413611 GWW, Key "colourless"? Sure beats the wicked witch and Winnie the waffler. GWW, Key “colourless”? Sure beats the wicked witch and Winnie the waffler.

]]> By: dad4justice http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413605 dad4justice Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:51:34 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413605 I do believe Winny the poopoch is a pathological liar, who fits in well with all the consummate liars from LABOUR. Oops into the negative water for a dip, sorry Sir? So typical of combo commie rats to drag the EB & Hollow man crap again, yawn, yawn, how’s - Trevor, Tim and Phillip??? Get ready – FIRE ALL the karma scuds. All launched Sir. Stand down and back into cell. I do believe Winny the poopoch is a pathological liar, who fits in well with all the consummate liars from LABOUR. Oops into the negative water for a dip, sorry Sir? So typical of combo commie rats to drag the EB & Hollow man crap again, yawn, yawn, how’s – Trevor, Tim and Phillip??? Get ready – FIRE ALL the karma scuds. All launched Sir. Stand down and back into cell.

]]> By: Ghostwhowalksnz http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413602 Ghostwhowalksnz Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:47:55 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413602 Is there a retraction of your smearing of the gallery now that you have admitted there was questions asked ( just you didint look hard enough) [DPF: I did not smear them I criticised them, and I still think they are too lenient.] Is there a retraction of your smearing of the gallery now that you have admitted there was questions asked ( just you didint look hard enough)

[DPF: I did not smear them I criticised them, and I still think they are too lenient.]

]]> By: Ghostwhowalksnz http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413594 Ghostwhowalksnz Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:28:00 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413594 Right of Way has pointed out clearly that Key is so ..... colourless. Wheres a Smoking Blonde when you want a story to beat up. Even Don had an ex doctors receptionist to sparkle up his mis steps Right of Way has pointed out clearly that Key is so ….. colourless.
Wheres a Smoking Blonde when you want a story to beat up.
Even Don had an ex doctors receptionist to sparkle up his mis steps

]]> By: Right of way is Way of Right http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413588 Right of way is Way of Right Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:19:53 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413588 The reason the Press Gallery are not hot on the "we would love to see wages drop" statement is because it is one throwaway line in a speech in Kerikeri! This story does not have legs, despite the Labour Party, the EMPU, the Greens and the Standard all trying to put extra legs on it like some demented game of pin the tail on the donkey. Besides, pictures of Owen Glenn and Helen Clark are so much funnier. Now, can we possibly get Winston, Dail and Owen in the same room and see who ignores who? The reason the Press Gallery are not hot on the “we would love to see wages drop” statement is because it is one throwaway line in a speech in Kerikeri! This story does not have legs, despite the Labour Party, the EMPU, the Greens and the Standard all trying to put extra legs on it like some demented game of pin the tail on the donkey.

Besides, pictures of Owen Glenn and Helen Clark are so much funnier.

Now, can we possibly get Winston, Dail and Owen in the same room and see who ignores who?

]]> By: Ghostwhowalksnz http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413583 Ghostwhowalksnz Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:09:15 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413583 Why doesnt Winnie just say he got the email but didnt read it, or deny saying that at the time and then give a detailed rebuttal 3 days later when his memory has 'recovered' or best of all tell them the Clerk of the House said its your 'intent' that matters. All these strategys are all ready proven. Why doesnt Winnie just say
he got the email but didnt read it,
or deny saying that at the time and then give a detailed rebuttal 3 days later when his memory has ‘recovered’
or best of all tell them the Clerk of the House said its your ‘intent’ that matters.
All these strategys are all ready proven.

]]> By: Tane http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413582 Tane Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:08:41 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413582 <i>What other politician would be let off so lightly? </i> John "we would love to see wages drop" Key? What other politician would be let off so lightly?

John “we would love to see wages drop” Key?

]]> By: John Dalley http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413578 John Dalley Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:00:30 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413578 Bloggers (see Kiwiblog) are going to provide balanced news "Yeah Right" I do agree with JC that NZ jouralisim is sub-standard but i would suggest that they are not paid to be jouralist these days but to provide sensational stories. When lately have you heard any kind of positive stories, they are generally trying to put as negative slant on it as possiblle. And i mean by that all news not just politics. Bloggers (see Kiwiblog) are going to provide balanced news “Yeah Right”
I do agree with JC that NZ jouralisim is sub-standard but i would suggest that they are not paid to be jouralist these days but to provide sensational stories. When lately have you heard any kind of positive stories, they are generally trying to put as negative slant on it as possiblle.
And i mean by that all news not just politics.

]]> By: Craig Ranapia http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413577 Craig Ranapia Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:55:36 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413577 <i>What other politician would be let off so lightly? </i> Well, it would take zero imagination to picture the shit-tsunami that would land on John Key's head if he engaged in the same old, same old immigrant-baiting Winnie trots out with monotonous regularity. <i>And this morning on ZB in CHCH Helen was complaining that the media were giving National a soft run. If there is one consistency in the political game it’s that the media are never on your side and every politician feels hard done by.</i> A large grain of truth in that, Mal, and I guess it's human nature. When your arse is being kissed every day, and twice on Sundays and public holidays, that's just your due. :) I heard Richard Griffin on Nat Radio this morning, and thought he made an interesting point: Labour has wasted a lot of time and energy selling the line that John Key is Ruth Richardson in man-drag with an evil "secret agenda". The only problem is that nobody is buying. What other politician would be let off so lightly?

Well, it would take zero imagination to picture the shit-tsunami that would land on John Key’s head if he engaged in the same old, same old immigrant-baiting Winnie trots out with monotonous regularity.

And this morning on ZB in CHCH Helen was complaining that the media were giving National a soft run. If there is one consistency in the political game it’s that the media are never on your side and every politician feels hard done by.

A large grain of truth in that, Mal, and I guess it’s human nature. When your arse is being kissed every day, and twice on Sundays and public holidays, that’s just your due. :) I heard Richard Griffin on Nat Radio this morning, and thought he made an interesting point: Labour has wasted a lot of time and energy selling the line that John Key is Ruth Richardson in man-drag with an evil “secret agenda”. The only problem is that nobody is buying.

]]> By: Lindsay Addie http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413576 Lindsay Addie Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:53:53 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413576 Mal: <blockquote><em>And this morning on ZB in CHCH Helen was complaining that the media were giving National a soft run. </em></blockquote> She has again and very conveniently all of a sudden got very short memory. Someone should ask her who the PM was for about 5 years starting in 1999 who had whole press gallery acting like cheer leaders for this certain PM. This woman is nothing but a hypocrite. Mal:

And this morning on ZB in CHCH Helen was complaining that the media were giving National a soft run.

She has again and very conveniently all of a sudden got very short memory. Someone should ask her who the PM was for about 5 years starting in 1999 who had whole press gallery acting like cheer leaders for this certain PM. This woman is nothing but a hypocrite.

]]> By: JC http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413574 JC Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:51:42 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413574 "NZ political journalism is well below the standards practised across the Tasman, let alone the USA." That's why the better journalists have latched on to the better bloggers. We have a small pool of underfunded journalists who can't hope to match bigger countries in investigative work.. and who are easily threatened by Govt. with denial of access if they get too curious. But the bloggers can act as eyes, ears and investigators for the MSM.. and also provide more diversity on what ordinary people are thinking. Could we even have had Glenngate without the bloggers? JC “NZ political journalism is well below the standards practised across the Tasman, let alone the USA.”

That’s why the better journalists have latched on to the better bloggers. We have a small pool of underfunded journalists who can’t hope to match bigger countries in investigative work.. and who are easily threatened by Govt. with denial of access if they get too curious.

But the bloggers can act as eyes, ears and investigators for the MSM.. and also provide more diversity on what ordinary people are thinking. Could we even have had Glenngate without the bloggers?

JC

]]> By: Mal http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413573 Mal Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:46:39 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413573 And this morning on ZB in CHCH Helen was complaining that the media were giving National a soft run. If there is one consistency in the political game it's that the media are never on your side and every politician feels hard done by. The reality is that the truth finally does get out and the public albeit rather slowly figure it out for themselves and the media follow behind. After all the media are merely recording history and not making it despite their over inflated opinions of their place in the world. Peters is a pawn trying to play the King in a game he can't win because anything he does will only enhance the perception that he is a manipulative and coniving sod that no-one can trust any more. Time to get over himself and piss off. And this morning on ZB in CHCH Helen was complaining that the media were giving National a soft run. If there is one consistency in the political game it’s that the media are never on your side and every politician feels hard done by. The reality is that the truth finally does get out and the public albeit rather slowly figure it out for themselves and the media follow behind. After all the media are merely recording history and not making it despite their over inflated opinions of their place in the world. Peters is a pawn trying to play the King in a game he can’t win because anything he does will only enhance the perception that he is a manipulative and coniving sod that no-one can trust any more. Time to get over himself and piss off.

]]> By: paulhelen http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413572 paulhelen Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:44:57 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413572 I think there are a number of NZ First MP's who see their jobs disappearing at the next election and might wonder if they should stay loyal to Winston over this issue. It could give them an excuse to distance themselves from Winnie and perhaps fight a different campaign than Winnie has in mind which is going to be all about me, me, me, me,me and beating bob the builder, not about the party. If he loses he will get a plum job but the others might not. I think there are a number of NZ First MP’s who see their jobs disappearing at the next election and might wonder if they should stay loyal to Winston over this issue. It could give them an excuse to distance themselves from Winnie and perhaps fight a different campaign than Winnie has in mind which is going to be all about me, me, me, me,me and beating bob the builder, not about the party. If he loses he will get a plum job but the others might not.

]]> By: bwakile http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413570 bwakile Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:39:18 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413570 Like vultures they know they have all year to chew his carcass. Like vultures they know they have all year to chew his carcass.

]]> By: Manolo http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413568 Manolo Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:30:10 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413568 Why would you be surprised DPF? Most of today's journalists lack the skills to probe/question/interrogate politicians and to pursue proper political analysis. They prefer the easy way of asking pansy questions and reporting on inanities. NZ political journalism is well below the standards practised across the Tasman, let alone the USA. Why would you be surprised DPF?

Most of today’s journalists lack the skills to probe/question/interrogate politicians and to pursue proper political analysis. They prefer the easy way of asking pansy questions and reporting on inanities.

NZ political journalism is well below the standards practised across the Tasman, let alone the USA.

]]> By: Colin http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413566 Colin Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:21:40 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413566 The Poodle Party is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Either Dail had a dream which was so "real" that he couldn't resist relating it to the media or Fidel Peters is telling porkies. Personally based on extensive long term character analysis I believe Dail. Either, slightly less than 100k found its way into the NZF account or it didn't. If it did, it was either anonymous or it wasn't. If Dail says he doesn't know where it came from but Peters can assure us it didn't come from Glenn then Peters must know where it came from. Winston, you voted for the EFA to "clean up" the influence of "big money" in politics. Cough up with the details now or you are NZ's second biggest hypocrite (Helen still beats you to the number one slot). The Poodle Party is stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Either Dail had a dream which was so “real” that he couldn’t resist relating it to the media or Fidel Peters is telling porkies.
Personally based on extensive long term character analysis I believe Dail.

Either, slightly less than 100k found its way into the NZF account or it didn’t.

If it did, it was either anonymous or it wasn’t.

If Dail says he doesn’t know where it came from but Peters can assure us it didn’t come from Glenn then Peters must know where it came from.
Winston, you voted for the EFA to “clean up” the influence of “big money” in politics. Cough up with the details now or you are NZ’s second biggest hypocrite (Helen still beats you to the number one slot).

]]> By: philu http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413565 philu Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:19:50 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413565 wouldn't it be 'choice' if the money was traced back to condi..? ('supporting a 'friendly' political party..?..) phil(whoar.co.nz) wouldn’t it be ‘choice’ if the money was traced back to condi..?

(‘supporting a ‘friendly’ political party..?..)

phil(whoar.co.nz)

]]> By: RebelHeart http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413562 RebelHeart Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:10:58 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413562 If only there was some reputable NZ blog that could catch the media's attention on this issue. If only there was some reputable NZ blog that could catch the media’s attention on this issue.

]]> By: Sushi Goblin http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413561 Sushi Goblin Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:10:38 +0000 http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2008/02/gallery_soft_on_winston.html#comment-413561 Oh, I don't know. I think the media might think he's like bacon - he'll keep till they're ready to fry him. If he's obfuscating overseas then the media know they've got him when he does get back. It would have been smarter for Peters to have dumped the info en masse while he was doing his job overseas, and say, I'm far to busy to give interviews on this petty trivia, I've given you the information, not leave me alone. Oh, I don’t know. I think the media might think he’s like bacon – he’ll keep till they’re ready to fry him. If he’s obfuscating overseas then the media know they’ve got him when he does get back. It would have been smarter for Peters to have dumped the info en masse while he was doing his job overseas, and say, I’m far to busy to give interviews on this petty trivia, I’ve given you the information, not leave me alone.

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