Comments on: Record numbers leaving

By: dhetaraka08

dhetaraka08 — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:41:57 +0000

Those are some wicked stats. I wonder what New Zealand is doing wrong. I think its pretty much everything especially as I was one of those people moving to Australia. So I created an ebook about moving to Australia and all the things that you need to do. It's like creating a new identity. Anyway check it out.

By: burt

burt — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:57:43 +0000

uk_kiwi

How far back do you go with union participation rates and economic productivity, just back to the failed policies of the 90’s or shall we go back to the environment that created the 80’s all over again by saying it was caused by what it forced in the 90’s as we repeat our mistakes.

By: uk_kiwi

uk_kiwi — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:52:48 +0000

Welcome to globalisation.

Let’s face it, most of that record number is immigrants who do their 5 years here then move to enjoy the better pay thanks to the strong union movement in Aussie. If the Nats hadn’t massively slashed wages and conditions in the 1990s, we would be level-pegging.

NZ businesses are also partially to blame- they don’t give any opportunity or training to school and university grads because “they’ll just bugger off overseas”. Many grads feel so pissed off by this rejection they never come back…

By: burt

burt — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:47:48 +0000

John Dalley

They probably got sick of blogging with the great unwashed.
With luck, the washed have gone to oz.

Can you define which group you identify in NZ when you use the term ‘washed’. Clearly you don’t want them around and it might enlighten us on your world view if we knew who you were talking about.

By: Buggerlugs

Buggerlugs — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:36:53 +0000

burt – unfortunately they left john dalley behind. obviously he’s not on their A list.

By: burt

burt — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:25:10 +0000

People (myself included) were banned for asking questions about Labour party servers being used by the standard, then one of their chief attack poodles give this nonchalant acknowledgment.

http://www.thestandard.org.nz/?p=1018#comment-16387

Nah, I checked the standard’s details and it’s not being run off labour servers anymore and by the looks of it was only there for a short period of time…

I suspect the attack poodles (of the left) have some serious wound licking to do and can’t take the sound of laughing so are having a rest.

By: kiki

kiki — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:18:34 +0000

nigel6888 where have they gone! don’t you know it is formal Stalinist policy to purge those whose fault it is for the failures of the state. Obviously they were wreckers

By: kiki

kiki — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:15:22 +0000

Should result in a fast and safe taxi service.

By: John Dalley

John Dalley — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:08:55 +0000

They probably got sick of blogging with the great unwashed.
With luck, the washed have gone to oz.

By: Buggerlugs

Buggerlugs — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:08:15 +0000

Oh yes, Helen is saying we’re getting skilled people in from other countries to replace our losses.

Yep, doctors trained in India working as taxi drivers…
rocket scientists from Iran working as…taxi drivers…

By: Buggerlugs

Buggerlugs — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:06:46 +0000

tdfkan6888 -
maybe they’ve taken the hint and fucked off to Aussie (or Myanmar…I’d buy them a ticket there, and a T-shirt that read ‘Up Your Junta!’ and then tip off Burmese immigration)

By: the deity formerly known as nigel6888

the deity formerly known as nigel6888 — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:16:06 +0000

i see Rocket boy is trying, what with only 1% of the population leaving in a year, no issues there, perfectly normal.

By: the deity formerly known as nigel6888

the deity formerly known as nigel6888 — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:14:34 +0000

has there been some banning going on? where are tane, sonic, phillipjohn et al turning up to threadjack, change the subject, play the man, and otherwise try and convince us that all is good with the labour government.

Could it be that the next wave of talking points haven’t been emailed out yet? Or maybe they got emailed to a national electorate office too?
c’mon somebody – at least make a token effort – how about the median number of people leaving has remained constant, therefore there is nothing to see here?

By: Jeff

Jeff — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:51:40 +0000

For starters there is no more interest in that than any of the other stats i asked about.

I believe all of it is relevant.

I hope you are not trying to start some sort of racial game playing as that would be silly and misguided.

Everything is relevant if it helps to find root causes.

By: Rocket Boy

Rocket Boy — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:46:22 +0000

PaulL ‘Rocket Boy: got a source/link for those numbers? What are you leaving out?’

40,000 people left NZ to go to Australia, NZ population is 4M that makes it 1% of the population. Therefore 99% of the population did not move to Australia.

The population gain last year of 5500 is from the Herald website:

‘The overall 5500 net migrant gain for the year ended December was below the annual average of 11,800 recorded for the December years from 1990-2007, SNZ said.

But overall long-term arrivals were down just 200 on the December 2006 year to 82,600, while the 77,100 long-term departures were up 9000.’

By: Southern Raider

Southern Raider — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:33:22 +0000

Shes not worried because the ones leaving have jobs and are more likely to vote National. The biigger the migration to Oz the higher her chance of re-election.

Mike S I’ve travelled around the world and putting aside the current Govt, from a place to live NZ is hard to beat.

By: Simeon

Simeon — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:26:32 +0000

Side show bob,

Of course dear leader is not worried. The people are voting with their feet.

By: Mike S

Mike S — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:20:02 +0000

NZ is a provincial little place, with a vastly over-inflated sense of how fabulous it is.
go overseas and see what the rest of the world is like, and suddenly NZ is quite as great as we’re all led to believe. no wonder younger people are moving once they get a taste of something a bit more interesting, and better paid

By: side show bob

side show bob — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:19:59 +0000

What are you all worried about, heard Dear Leader on the radio and she’s not worried, in fact it would probably be safe to say she couldn’t give a rats toss.

By: duncan_bayne

duncan_bayne — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 07:01:05 +0000

Ethnic background

Why so interested in race?