CIS wants a NZ policy analyst

March 14th, 2008 at 10:15 am by David Farrar

The Centre for Independent Studies, of which I am a proud member, is seeking a Policy Analyst or Research Fellow for their NZ Policy Unit. The job is based in Sydney but you end up back in NZ a fair bit.

I would have loved a job like this when I was an employee, and the current staffer has described it as the best job he has ever had.

If you have the right skills, experience and background and want to join the brain-drain, then this may be for you.

I’m also running a (free) ad for them for the job.

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21 Responses to “CIS wants a NZ policy analyst”

  1. Paul W (266 comments) says:

    I’m not a huge fan of the CIS but actually think independent bodies like this can, and sometimes do, have a real influence on policy. That said, I think what they’re offering in salary is particularly low. There’s always a trade off in not-for-profits and I’m sure whomever takes on this role will benefit from the networking however by way of comparison, a NSW mid-level (non SES) analyst would get circa $70k, a manager around $120k and first tier SES anywhere from $140k. Federal public servants receive slightly lower take-home salaries but more super.

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  2. PaulL (5,981 comments) says:

    I’d love the role, but couldn’t afford the pay cut. You would have to see it as being partly a donation of time in order to justify it. What they are asking for is quite ambitious for the money they are paying.

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  3. May (24 comments) says:

    The job would suit me, but I don’t want to accelerate the brain drain for a substantial pay cut. A starting salary of A$100k is needed to induce me to consider applying.

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  4. 1rodhide (13 comments) says:

    roll up, roll up, roll up ….. Who wants to be a PR/spin mercenary for a collection of multinational corporate empires? Better money than blackwater will doll out and almost 0% fatality rate! (applicants should know however that loss of soul rate is nearly 100% after two years).

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  5. 1rodhide (13 comments) says:

    roll up, roll up, roll up …Who wants to be a PR/spin mercenary for a collection of multinational corporate empires? Better money than blackwater will doll out and almost 0% fatality rate! (applicants should know however that loss of soul rate is nearly 100% after two years).

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  6. Paul W (266 comments) says:

    I think they’ll find someone but they’ll be either junior and inexperienced or prepared to take a significant pay cut. I wonder how seriously the CIS are about this position/focus? For instance, the NSW jobs website advertising shows that a Clerk 3/4, 2-3 years experience, pays $A64k (incl super), https://jobs.nsw.gov.au/JobDetails.asp?JobAdvertId=69363.

    Is that the level of person they’re after? Really? Why bother?

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  7. PhilBest (5,121 comments) says:

    So much for the lefty myth about the big money being in the funding of “right wing” causes…….

    Also relevant:

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/horowitz012500.asp

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  8. Rex Widerstrom (5,354 comments) says:

    I agree with those above. This isn’t a junior back room role… they specifically ask for someone who’s good with radio interviews and thus presumably has to be both quick-thinking and so steeped in knowledge they can joust with interviewers and perhaps socialist commentators in live debate.

    $60,000?! With the cost of living in Sydney the poor sod would have to live in their office to make it viable. So as Paul W says they’ll probably end up with some graduate know-all who’ll be decimated by some intelligent, articulate left winger who’s paid more than that by a union.

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  9. Paul W (266 comments) says:

    I know people working in Unions in NSW and they pay competitively. A lawyer friend left a medium-sized firm to work with the Electrical Trade Union and didn’t drop under $100k (AUD). If you want good people, you have to pay what the market dictates. Why on earth would anyone half decent accept half the pay they would otherwise earn from working for the State government?

    The CIS clearly are not taking this seriously.

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  10. PaulL (5,981 comments) says:

    PaulW. Of course, anybody who would want this role wouldn’t be caught dead working for the State Government. But yes, it is a sad indictment of the state of the VRWC.

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  11. Phil Rennie (1 comment) says:

    Hi guys, I think you are being a little too harsh about the job. You won’t get rich working for a think-tank, but the pay is comparable to the public service and there are plenty of other major benefits. In particular you get:

    -the autonomy of setting your own programme
    -to work with the talented and interesting people here at CIS
    -to live in Sydney (which is a lot of fun) and travel back to NZ regularly
    -to make a name for yourself through media coverage
    -to express your opinions
    -and finally, to work for a cause you believe in, rather than working for a faceless corporation or bureaucracy.

    I’ve been here for 2 years and can assure you it’s a great role and a great opportunity.

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  12. Paul W (266 comments) says:

    PaulL, that’s an odd thing to say. NSW public servants are as diverse in their views as are NZ public servants. I wonder what actual experience you have to back up your point; perhaps you’re just making assumptions. I’d not work for the CIS because I think they’re pretty average as is evident in their recruitment process.

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  13. David Farrar (1,894 comments) says:

    Any decent capitalist should be able to aggressively negotiate anyway. If people are interested they should apply and just demand more money if they get offered the role :-)

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  14. May (24 comments) says:

    Phil

    I have all that (apart from point 3) in my current job with a higher pay in third-world New Zealand! (Btw, that pay is markedly lower than public service jobs in NZ.)

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  15. clintheine (1,570 comments) says:

    It will be good having you Phil continuing to join the brain drain as you relocate to the UK with the 200,000+ other Kiwis over here. I’ll buy you a beer when you get in :)

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  16. side show bob (3,660 comments) says:

    Most of the leftwing nuts that post on kiwiblog would be ideal as their brains have already been drained.

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  17. Paul W (266 comments) says:

    Phil said “pay is comparable to the public service”; no it’s not Phil. It’s very lowly paid and attracts very junior people. I’ve recently been involved in a recruitment process, albeit for more senior people, and the market is pretty tight. I’d be very surprised if the CIS manage to attract quality candidates.

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  18. PhilBest (5,121 comments) says:

    “they’ll probably end up with some graduate know-all who’ll be decimated by some intelligent, articulate left winger who’s paid more than that by a union.”

    Not to mention all the left-wingers, both intelligent and articulate, and not, who are paid much, much, more out of taxpayers money……..

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  19. PhilBest (5,121 comments) says:

    But Phil Rennie has a point…..”to work for a cause you believe in”……someone WILL do this for love, I reckon, I just hope they are good at it……..

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  20. PaulL (5,981 comments) says:

    Paul W

    NSW public servants are as diverse in their views as are NZ public servants

    My point exactly. Left wingers the lot of them :-)

    The NSW govt has been labour for a long time, and have the same habits as the NZ Labour govt with respect of treating the public service as their personal fiefdom. And I have a number of friends who work in NSW public service, I have contracted to NSW govt myself. How much work have you done with the NSW govt?

    Having said that, you are right, there are all sorts of different people there, but as a general rule people who are in senior mgmt positions who are very talented will get paid more in the private sector. I believe recent surveys suggest that is not the case in NZ.

    Another interesting/funny thing that goes on in govt is when the lefty unionist types get promoted – they are very surprised when they reach SES level and discover that, despite being the same lefty unionist type they were before being promoted, that they are now unwelcome at union meetings and have become one of the enemy – evil managerial class folks who take advantage of the workers. That is about the point they realise how much bullshit they have been being fed all those years.

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  21. Paul W (266 comments) says:

    Actually, I’d not agree that the public service is so uniform in either country – not in my experience anyway. I’ve worked in both NZ and Australian public sectors – last five years in both State and Cmwth in Australia. There’s actually very little alternative to Labor to be frank – the Libs and Nats are in total disaray. As for your point about the unions; I’ll only say that I have heard that said. I’ve got friends in unions on both sides of the Tasman, none conform to the stereotype and all are talented and effective. I suspect we might agree on a few things PaulL, but not about the value of unions.

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