Very stupid

March 29th, 2008 at 6:14 pm by David Farrar

NZPA reports on the jailing of a 41 year old man for unlawful sexual connection with a 15 year old girl. While there is nothing funny about a young girl being exploited, I did have to laugh at this part of the story on how he got caught:

Defence counsel Elizabeth Bulger said: “It seems there was some affection between them. He was apprehended because he was taken home to meet her parents.”

Meeting the parents is not a recommended activity, if you are having with an under-age partner. And especially when you are probably older than the parents.

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22 Responses to “Very stupid”

  1. pdm (844 comments) says:

    This is interesting because I have commented on various blogs before about the daughter of a friend aged 15 living with a 21 year old with the consent of his mother. Neither the police or WINZ wanted to know about it.

    What has changed?

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  2. mara (795 comments) says:

    I have a teenaged daughter. I think she is smarter than the complainant in this case. Well I would think so, wouldn’t I? Being smart is a help in life. I could be wrong in this case, but stupid parents have stupid children. I suspect that this family is stupid. This lack of nous puts a big “bulls-eye” on their kids’ chests. And then they complain.

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  3. Murray M (455 comments) says:

    Scroats begat scroats. Seems to be a common theme in NZ these days.

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  4. JSF2008 (422 comments) says:

    sorry whats the problem with the above ,we have a pm called (miss) HELEN CLARK WHOS IS SUPPOSED TO BE KNOCKING AROUND WITH SOME GUY CALLED P DAVIS, confusing, a miss whos married????two differant surnames, SO IN Mr Farrars latest post whats the problem with a older male having (NORMAL)sex WITH A NORMAL FIT YOUNG WOMEN, is it MR dirty bonker and MISS Innocent having sex or the other case study,Miss 19?? liar party sacrifice (for the good of the party) i want to be pm so must have a male companion its suppost to be normal. (SEX)never. babies HA HA, but this is a FANTISEY POSTING.No one would have a pathetic relationship like that, i breed dogs and wouldnt tease them, with a mock relationship like the above senario ITS NOT NATURAL.
    its true what i say ,im married and have seen NORMAL relationships develope,between young and old .
    any spelling mistakes (SORRY BRO) i say it as i see it (NON PC) the truth.OPPS do i live in china , will i turn into body parts????no demerits hurt more than removal of body parts,but who cares,say it as you see it and have courage

    [DPF: I’m the last person to condemn age differences in relationships. However 15 is illegal as she is too young to consent.]

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  5. peterquixote (231 comments) says:

    like with them girl and mn thing farrar what you talk about
    it best if they have a certificate of birth above 17
    and mebe no
    we donts meet you daddy to yet, maybe never

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  6. mara (795 comments) says:

    PQ, PLEASE take your pills. I hate to see any creature suffer. Honestly mate; I cannot even stamp on a worm. But you probably need to be er “contained” for your own good.

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  7. JSF2008 (422 comments) says:

    Mr Farrar , other than the queer F*ck W*Ts who make the laws, MOSTLY GAYS,no sex before 15 ,HA HA HA , 44 years years ago i was hard at it with 15 yos and they still remember me. Its called life Mr Farrar and 15 yo males bonk 15 yo females because TV SUCKS, schools shit, theres no parties, the PM is a lossier , but best of all SEX IS GREAT(GREAT),i can endorse it SEX IS A GROWTH INDUSTRY, not porn(but two couples, OPPISITE SEX) safe sex with condomms, AFTER ALL WE ARE civilised HA,NO SEXY,opps GASP from the gay liberal???????centre but i dont care HA HA
    warning any spelling mistakes(sorry bros) jsf2008.

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  8. Innocent bystander (163 comments) says:

    JSF2008….congratulations on hitting a new low for Kiwiblog, condoning statutory rape, well done. Clearly you are also an avid reader of Investigate Magazine. I’m just amazed that you managed to take in all of the details of the “Peter Davis is a fag and Helen’s a dirty dyke” story before you got all the pages stuck together.

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  9. JSF2008 (422 comments) says:

    I B turn the page in your bible , your dribble is making the text run , as a book printer i worry about books and dribblers , a 15 yo bonking a 15 yo ,45 years ago, stat rape, shit, GOOD SEX ,I WORRY about posters like you I B me thinks you worry to much,shock horror, no little kids live near you, do they mate,(cannot say that DEMERITES , ABUSE)dont worry about my past mate ,lets worry about you and the present. theirs POLITICAL THREADS in posts like yours old innocent bystander(nightshift liarparty) cheers i hope the female toilet door jams:)

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  10. expat (4,050 comments) says:

    JSF2008 is obviously the same maladjust who appears here under a few other handles. You can tell from the random use of English, caps and brackets. Suggest we end this thread it’s getting too weird.

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  11. Innocent bystander (163 comments) says:

    As a book printer you should lay off sniffing ink. You brought up sex between 15 year olds but no one with more than half a brain thinks that that is even in the same moral universe as sex between a 15 year old and a 41 year old.

    And you’re right, you have displeased Helen greatly and she has ordered Labour activists to stalk you in the blogosphere….we’re just trying to get a fix on your computer before we send in your very own black helicopter…Helen has ordered that your head be stuck on the top of a flag pole outside parliament, with its own web cam, as a warning to all other posters. You’d better warn that Farrar chap and run while you still can.

    Sorry, just completing that train of thought for you.

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  12. clintheine (1,571 comments) says:

    To be totally honest DPF, the legal age of consent in Slovakia and the Czech Republic is 15.

    Does this mean that these stunning ladies are mentally more capable to consent than Kiwi girls?

    [DPF: Actually cultural and societal factors can definitely make a difference – in my experience European girls are more mature and sophisticated than American girls for instance. In Canada the age of consent is 14 by the way. But there are two different issues here – the law relating to everyone, and the situations around an individual.

    You just do not get to second guess the law. If the law says someone can’t consent until they’re say 18, then you’re bloody stupid to break it, unless you are of similiar age. Now of course individuals are mature at different rates. In NZ for example there are many 17 year olds who can’t handle sexual relationships well, and having sex early mucks them up. And there are some who do have sex at 15 and they go on to marry their partners. ]

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  13. Andrew W (1,629 comments) says:

    Two points, how old you are when you are ready for sex has more to do with biology and attitude than law, and:

    “She continues to experience guilt and shame that she got into this offending on the basis that it was an acceptable and normal thing to do.

    “Now that she knows better she feels guilty, stupid and has low self-esteem.”

    Probably has more to do with her parents and the states reaction than the actual sexual relationship, I bet she wasn’t feeling guilt, shame and as low in self-esteem before she showed him off.

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  14. JSF2008 (422 comments) says:

    what if it was a 41 yo women and a 15 yo boy, wouldnt be the same reaction/result.Not to many women get sent down for having sex with a toyboy.

    [DPF: Actually it is becoming more and more common for such prosecutions]

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  15. JSF2008 (422 comments) says:

    Good morning Mr Farrar,is it raining there .

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  16. goodgod (1,348 comments) says:

    “what if it was a 41 yo women and a 15 yo boy, wouldnt be the same reaction/result.Not to many women get sent down for having sex with a toyboy.”

    Correct. There are a couple of recent NZ cases where the female offender was more or less slapped on the hand compared to what a male offender would get.

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  17. rolla_fxgt (311 comments) says:

    Why wasn’t the 15yr old girl prosecuted for lying about her age to get on the phone sex/dating phone thing in the first place? I mean if her parents made the complaint to the police about this man bonking their under age daughter, then surely they should also of asked she be charged with miss use of a phone, or lying about her age or something?

    I’m not condoning what the guy has done at all, I agree its wrong, but surely both parties should share the blame here? It doesn’t seem like the guy forced the girl to lie about her age to join the phone service.

    Also say a different series of events happened, say the guy was at a bar, and she was still under age, but was all dolled up, and had a fake ID, and was allowed into the bar, he picks her up & goes home and has sex with her. Should he still be charged?

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  18. dad4justice (8,313 comments) says:

    [DPF: Actually it is becoming more and more common for such prosecutions]

    Sadly David is correct and concerned fathers with out of control daughters can’t do a bloody thing about it? The government feminists’ want to destroy all male parental rights because socialists fear family loyalties like bonds of love between dad and daughter.
    All dads of teenage daughters should revolt against parliament immediately !!

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  19. Chuck Bird (4,925 comments) says:

    “I’m not condoning what the guy has done at all”

    YEAH RIGHT

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  20. Fromthedesk (7 comments) says:

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  21. clintheine (1,571 comments) says:

    DPF, yeah I agree with that. Those Euro girls are much more mature and sophisticated than Kiwi girls.

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  22. Scribe (80 comments) says:

    DPF,

    Interesting that you’re rightly condemning this behaviour yet condoning similar fictional behaviour in a TV show (Californication), calling Duchovny having sex with a 16-year-old “part of what is a well constructed plot”.

    Like a rugby referee, all we ask for is consistency.

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