Blog Bits

April 22nd, 2008 at 9:44 am by David Farrar

Poneke has blogged a copy of his 2004 presentation to the Society Conference, showing that the media generally are not sceptical of “alternative medicine” claims. It is an excellent read.

Stephen Franks points out that “that” ghastly song written by his rival was intended for a fund-raiser at the Beehive for the Mary Potter Hospice, and that the Hospice has got damaged by the furore with donors threatening to pull funding if the song was used at the fundraiser. It was pulled, but really how on Earth did they ever think something like that would be suitable for a charity fundraiser.

To balance things up, I’ll link to Grant Robertson responding to Stephen on the issues of midwives and maternity care.  The response, missed the point to me. Women have basically lost the choice of having a GP deliver their children, as GPs have been driven out of the profession.

No Minister has this wonderful quote:

“Prince William landed his chopper in Kate Middleton’s back paddock.”

Heh Heh. Originally picked up by Iain Dale.

Whale Oil has discovered a new Helen Clark site. It gives a different message everytime. Just click reload.

The BBC has a homage of Donald Rumsfield’s best quotes.

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15 Responses to “Blog Bits”

  1. David Coverdale (17 comments) says:

    It is worth noting that Robertson has commented on Stephen Franks’ blog to specifically deny that there was any intention of performing that song in a cross-party charity event. The idea of singing an anti John-Key song at an event for the terminally ill called “Harmony in the House” is totally absurd, and Robertson is plenty smart enough to have seen the kind of pitfalls it would have had. Not a credible accusation.

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  2. Stephen Franks (54 comments) says:

    No David, the “accusation” as you call it came from H Clark, directly to the Herald. Grant’s denial is now making this all much funnier. I do not believe the denial for a moment. If this was not all so trivial the next amusement would be finding out who he thinks ‘misspoke’ so unfortunately to the Prime Minister. I suspect we would find it all to be the kind of ‘confusion’ so catching in the Labour Party at the moment.

    Why do I not believe the denial?
    Because I can’t think of any other reason why three Ministers would manage to coordinate their timetables enough to practice such a timely ditty. For Ministers to get such time free together (with their leader Moana) is quite an acheivement.

    I know the conventions of “Harmony in the House”. I’ve performed in it. It owes a lot to capping show precedents. Satirical skits are very much the style.

    I actually thought Grant’s “lyric’ was rather skilful. It would not ordinarily have raised eyebrows at “Harmony in the House”. It would have passed me by as a subject for complaint. Parliamentary insiders would hear it as a mild version of the way Labour people talk of their fellow MPs. Cosgrove used hours of his time whenever I spoke in Parliament to hurl sotto voce baseless insults at me, far more vicious than anything in that lyric. He was far enough from the Speaker for her to be able to ignore it.

    So for me this entertainment got much better the moment Grant decided to read the Mike Williams instruction manual for Liarbour candidates – “when you are in shallow hole, and the bullets are now passing mainly overhead, stand up to look for a bigger one”

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  3. dad4justice (8,238 comments) says:

    “Cosgrove used his time whenever I spoke in Parliament to hurl sotto voce baseless insults at me far more vicious than anything in that lyric.”

    Is that the wimp Clayton Cosgrove who is a total embarrassment to the Saint Bede’s Old Boys Association? If it is then this gutless liley livered pansy is a pathetic pitiful excuse and not wanted in North Canterbury .

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  4. Paul W (266 comments) says:

    I’m curious David and Stephen, as to how your beat up of this story helps the Hospice?

    Robertson’s clearly said the song was not intended for the fundraiser however you continue to argue it was – do you have some proof for this claim or is repetition sufficient? What is clear is that despite your claimed concern for the Hospice, you’ll continue to mislead people in hope of winning a handful more votes regardless of the impact on fundraising.

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  5. poneke (280 comments) says:

    Is that the wimp Clayton Cosgrove who is a total embarrassment to the Saint Bede’s Old Boys Association? If it is then this gutless liley livered pansy is a pathetic pitiful excuse and not wanted in North Canterbury

    This kind of sewage permeates the blogosphere, yet a “model of fairness” is forcibly removed because of lawyers’ objections:

    http://www.medialawjournal.co.nz/?p=98

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  6. dad4justice (8,238 comments) says:

    poneke – please tell Clayton I said it . Diddums to my sewage. Welcome any legal drama from wimps. I should know what I talk about as he did attend my school before Mike Moore indoctrinated him too think left. Now Mike makes lots of money thinking right. He is a rich prick now. Do pass my sewerage on thank you deary.

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  7. Paul W (266 comments) says:

    artandmylife, what you’ve said is consistent with my families experience too however the substance of this issue is in danger of being overshadowed by David and Stephen’s clamour to generate political capital… despite being told of their misrepresentation and despite Stephen’s claimed concern for the Hospice.

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  8. David Baigent (172 comments) says:

    Paul W, says “despite being told of their misrepresentation and despite Stephen’s claimed concern for the Hospice.”

    I hope you have documentary evidence of this claim.
    If this is a “word of mouth” claim then I am entitled to my own belief as to the truth..

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  9. Paul W (266 comments) says:

    Yes, here: http://www.stephenfranks.co.nz/?p=336#comments

    It’s noted in the first post on this thread and is from Grant Robertson himself. It is clear and unequivocal.

    You have to wonder why Stephen, and David, continue with this entirely false claim? I guess it’s better than debating health policy?

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  10. Owen McShane (1,226 comments) says:

    This tendency of the MSM to promote the most dubious alternative medicines and cures is one reason why we cannot even think about removing GST from medicine. (Not that I believe in tampering with the universality of GST anyway.)
    But any attempt to remove GST from medical care of medicine would lead to an avalanche of applications for voodoo pills and natural healing and magic machines to be included on the list of medical care and medicines to be GST exempt – and all supported by gullible journos.
    But those same journos would rush to the cancer labs if they got any funny lumps.
    The cost of legal arguments would be more than the GST.

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  11. RRM (9,932 comments) says:

    Good on Prince William – I’d land my chopper there too. Kate Middleton is hot!

    But if the intention was a general whinge about the excesses of the monarchy, let’s just reflect on how far we’ve come; he hasn’t led us to war over it, or imposed a new religion, or commissioned a battleship…

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  12. mara (788 comments) says:

    The UN has issued a “strongly worded” statement to Mugabe. Great. There will now be peace and harmony in that part of Africa. Gee willickers, ain’t life grand. Helen and Co. clearly think so., considering the love-fest that we have with the UN.

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  13. David Farrar (1,898 comments) says:

    Paul – I am confused. It is Helen Clark who claimed that it was being practised for the Hospice fundraiser. So who do I believe – Helen or Grant?

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  14. jafapete (757 comments) says:

    Grant obviously. He ought to know. Helen’s not quite infallible. Almost, but not quite, didn’t you know.

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