Squeal little piggy!…hehe… he squeals good…

I believe that Jesus was personally celibate, though beyond his condemnation of adultery and lust, he made no substantive pronouncements regarding sex.

Jack, I am not absolving Capill of personal responsibility, but I do believe that Capill’s puritan upbringing did not help him any. Nor am I saying that a puritan attitude to sex automatically breeds paedophiles. What I am saying is that it sure doesn’t help much. I also think that Catholicism can be very repressive – the simple command that clergy be celibate – unknown amongst both Protestant and Orthodox branches of the Faith – creates a repressed sexual environment for priests that, to be sure, many can cope with, but also many can not.

Individuals should always be held accountable. But we should also look at the circumstances around them, and ensure they are not bred.

In instances like this I’m always perplexed to hear folks who have already decided that Christianity isn’t for them (their right of course) helping to justify that position by pointing to folks like Capill and saying ‘that’s why’ (even if only to themselves…). How about instead being brave enough to look at the life and teachings of Jesus and saying ‘that’s not for me’. I think that would be a more honest justification for rejecting Christianity.

Back to the issue at hand, I think Capill should be made to serve his full sentence. No Parole

Hundreds of thousands, probably millions, of children from puritan families are not paedophiles. Otago-Southland was settled by the Free Kirk, a puritan denomination and the paedophile incidence there is no higher than anywhere else in the country. Samoans and Tongans come from a puritan-religious background. They don’t seem to be notable for paedophilia.

And thousands of paedophiles do not (not) come from puritan backgrounds. Think of that Hungarian scumbag who killed the little girl in Napier. Think of paedophile Catholic priests in NZ, Australia, and the United States. I don’t think you can correctly say Roman Catholicism is a puritan religion.

Capill made evil choices and committed evil actions. His father and his upbringing are not to blame. He is to blame. No-one else.

And what bullshit about puritans’ children being unable to enjoy marital sex. How come they had such big families?

I feel nothing but pity for the guy. He was raised in a strict Dutch Reformed Church environment, the son of a minister (and founder of the High School I attended), and taught from an early age that sex was icky. When you’re that repressed, you get to marriage and there’s no way you can have a satisfying sexual relationship with your wife, because you’re not supposed to enjoy it. You feel guilt, shame and a lack of fulfilment. You can’t reach any level of confidence or intimacy with your wife because there is a conflict between your own needs and your guilt. You don’t feel in control of your needs.

From there, it’s a matter of time before you turn to children because you are in a position of authority and that’s the only way you can express yourself sexually and get what you want.

Maybe that’s a simplistic way of looking at it, but I’m convinced that religious repression of sex is a key factor in paedophilia. I’m not arguing for the other extreme – licentiousness, but puritannical attitudes are not helping people achieve satisfaction in one of God’s greatest gifts to mankind.

You missed these (as at 27 October 2007 – so already superseded by future events, like Mallard’s day in court):

- Ruth Dyson (sprung for drunk-driving on her way home from Parliament)
- Marian Hobbs and Phillida Bunkle (who faced double-dipping claims)
- Harry Duynhoven (infringed arcane nationality rules)
- Lianne Dalziel (caught out telling porkies to journalists)
- Tariana Turia (sacked after she took issue with the Foreshore and Seabed legislation, resigned from Parliament and came back as Maori Party leader)
- John Tamihere (sacked after he made imprudent comments to Investigate magazine)

And help me out here. Which of those political prisoners has Helen let out on parole? Or, if you prefer, released from servitude to the Labour Party?

Heather Simpson
Helen Clark x 3
Philip Field
David Benson Pope x 2
Dover Samuels
Judith Dyson
David Parker
Trevor Mallard
Peter Davis
Mike Williams
There are bound to be more that I have overlooked such is the level of corruption inside the Labour party

And while I am on the subject of rolls of honour, can you tell me which dawn service dear corrupt leader attended this year or as in the past, has she simply not bothered?

You want more? Just five words: Taito Phillip Field and alleged bribery.

An offender who is subject to a determinate sentence of
imprisonment for a term of more than 12 months, not being a sentence for
a serious violent offence, is eligible to be released on parole after
the expiry of one-third of that sentence.

http://gpacts.knowledge-basket.co.nz/gpacts/public/text/1993/se/043se43.html

You don’t really want to get into a discussion about >Labour MPs in the dock now, do you?

“Without wanting to detract from Capill’s crime, would he have been prosecuted if he had been a serving Labour MP? Or would the Police have deemed it to be not in the public interest to do so?”

Of course not, dear leader would have described Capill as only being guilty of trying to help people and when pushed the useless and Police commissioner would have ensured that while a prima facie case existed it was not in the public interest to prosecute.

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Yeah – total Karma (or average Karma) would be more useful…

Edit: 500+: seriously?